In response to NO MO O's comment:
Hitting the dictionary again. Let me try it out: "Nomo showed his compassion for the black and brown races in a very niggardly fashion".
Re: MSNBC's Karen Finney Warns 'Crazy Crackers On The Right' About 'Hateful Language' On Immigration
posted at 1/30/2013 2:34 PM EST
In response to NO MO O's comment:
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posted at 1/30/2013 2:35 PM EST
In response to jmel's comment:
Why would any sane individual post this:
WDYWN: "The term rather lacks that "I'll accuse you of looking at a white girl the wrong way and hang you from a tree because it'd be fun and who cares, your an n_________" historical background..... "
Are you that ret@rded? I'm explaining why bobin getting his panties bunched up in self-righteous fury over the supposedly "racist" use of the term "cracker" is absurd.
Worrying about the racist implications of "cracker" is pathetic.
If you think "cracker" is comparable to something like "n____", it says way more about you than anything else. (But do tell us more about those people who look up to Jay-Z and use EBT cards).
Unless you have evidence that it was historically common for mobs of black people to go around calling white people "crackers" before murdering them?
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posted at 1/30/2013 2:43 PM EST
In response to jmel's comment:
Oh, ok. If you say so. Mission Accomplished and all that, right?
/yawn
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Re: MSNBC's Karen Finney Warns 'Crazy Crackers On The Right' About 'Hateful Language' On Immigration
posted at 1/30/2013 2:53 PM EST
Is "cracker" a racist term? It is a term used for low class whites. It may be associated with the cracking of a whip (like an overseer would with slaves). It was most likely popularized by other whites (slaves adopted the language of their masters not the other way around). It is often used in a pejorative sense (although some use it as a self-discription), but is it really racist? Seems not to be.
And I speak this as a (proud) "Swamp Yankee": the lower class (white) people of New England who did not get the high ground dominated by the Brahmin (white) upper crust. None of that is really racist either.
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Re: MSNBC's Karen Finney Warns 'Crazy Crackers On The Right' About 'Hateful Language' On Immigration
posted at 1/30/2013 3:04 PM EST
In response to jmel's comment:
I try to see things objectively. Objectively speaking "ret@rded" is no more offensive than "idiot," "moron," or "imbecile."
Idiot meant IQ 0-25
Moron meant IQ 25-50
Imbecile meant IQ 50-75
"Ret@rded" meant somewhere between 0-75.
People in those IQ ranges are all suffering from various mental defects. That you think calling me an "idiot" is fine, but me calling you "ret@rded" is somehow beyond the pale?
That's an eye of the beholder (or where it's looking) problem.
"I`m blown away at the way some people immediately use the word "racist" for people that have different beliefs."
So am I.
One of two things is going on here:
1. You just don't see how racist your rant about people who look "think Jay-Z and Beyonce are geniuses", use EBT cards, are laybouts and criminals - basically every last stereotype about urban black males on the f**king books - looks to a reader.
2. Or you see it, meant it, and deny it.
#1 is better than #2, but it's not exactly a great defense, eh?
It wasn't exactly a clever third defense to try to equate your view of your own statements with with the innocuous use of "cracker" that agitated bobo to crimes of "racist!"
There is a reason I responded to one set of statements with "racist!" and the other with "race card", and it's not the reason you wish it were.
Re: MSNBC's Karen Finney Warns 'Crazy Crackers On The Right' About 'Hateful Language' On Immigration
posted at 1/30/2013 3:04 PM EST
In response to jmel's comment:
In response to Reubenhop's comment:
Is "cracker" a racist term? It is a term used for low class whites. It may be associated with the cracking of a whip (like an overseer would with slaves). It was most likely popularized by other whites (slaves adopted the language of their masters not the other way around). It is often used in a pejorative sense (although some use it as a self-discription), but is it really racist? Seems not to be.
And I speak this as a (proud) "Swamp Yankee": the lower class (white) people of New England who did not get the high ground dominated by the Brahmin (white) upper crust. None of that is really racist either.
If you watch the clip, it does not appear that she is speaking in any other way than "crazy" talk. If people are honest about the clip, she`s not even thinking in a racist way. And I do not like this woman or her ideology.
This is a non-event and shouldn`t have made the radar screen.
Re: MSNBC's Karen Finney Warns 'Crazy Crackers On The Right' About 'Hateful Language' On Immigration
posted at 1/30/2013 3:06 PM EST
In response to Reubenhop's comment:
And I speak this as a (proud) "Swamp Yankee": the lower class (white) people of New England who did not get the high ground dominated by the Brahmin (white) upper crust. None of that is really racist either.
It's nothing like "N-". Not in meaning. Not in use. Not in historical significance.
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Re: MSNBC's Karen Finney Warns 'Crazy Crackers On The Right' About 'Hateful Language' On Immigration
posted at 1/30/2013 3:31 PM EST
Dumb comment by her. Why does anyone watch MSNBC anyhow?
Re: MSNBC's Karen Finney Warns 'Crazy Crackers On The Right' About 'Hateful Language' On Immigration
posted at 1/30/2013 3:35 PM EST
I don't like her comment, its disrespectful and dismissive, and shows that Finney is in her own "bubble". The irony of her talking about hateful language and casually dropping "cracker" is enough that I would have fired her on the spot. MSNBC isn't above coming down on their own, and this is a case where they should if they already haven't.
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posted at 1/30/2013 3:47 PM EST
Why was that post removed?
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Re: MSNBC's Karen Finney Warns 'Crazy Crackers On The Right' About 'Hateful Language' On Immigration
posted at 2/1/2013 10:51 AM EST
NPR fired Juan Williams for MUCH less.
"You are about to be ruled by the blackman, CRACKER!" wasn't intimidating either, right?
Re: MSNBC's Karen Finney Warns 'Crazy Crackers On The Right' About 'Hateful Language' On Immigration
posted at 2/1/2013 11:55 AM EST
I remember her. She said Rush Limbaugh coined, "Magic Negro" while telling a story of her dad being called "Boy" by a cop.
Well, Rush didn't and she should sure as hell know better than to call people crackers.