Re: My 2 Cents on the Zimmerman case
posted at 7/16/2013 2:29 PM EDT
In response to tvoter's comment:
In response to slomag's comment:
No, the crime started when Zimmerman started chasing Martin - the crime is called 'menacing' and any accidental death that results is by definition 'manslaughter'.
If Martin was frustrated and turned to confront Zimmerman, than Zimmerman's version of events are a lie. According to Zimmerman, he returned to his vehicle after the 911 call and then went to look at a street sign where Martin was waiting to ambush him. Come on.
Wow do=id even read about the actual trial of evidence?
Chased and menacing was never even mentioned!
I like EVERY OTHER PERSON OTHER THAN TRAYVON AND ZIMMERMAN do not KNOW what happened.
The prosecution had a witness that lied under oath and was not believable.
The defense had Zimmermans testimony that was backed up by the police who responded; the re-inactment by the trained detectives through the investigative process and the closest eye witness.
The projection of the bullet wound was consistent with the way the defense portrayed it aka Martin on top.
Martin has grass stains on his knees; zimmerman on his back.
Every one involved under oath stated that zimmerman never made any racial overtones or appeared concerned with race; regardless of what the media said.
Zimmerman stated and it was collaborated that he saw Treyvon and reported it; the dispatcher said "we dont need you to follow him or exit your vehicle".
Zimmerman stopped following him because Martin disappeared between house where following wasnt feasible.
Minutes later, zimmerman exited his vehicle (hindsights shows it was a mistake but, not criminal) walks through the court yard presumably to try and locate police (who knows but, not criminal). As he is walking back he passes an opening between building and then Martin comes behind him and says "what's you problem" Zimmerman say's "I have no problem" Martins says "you do now" and attacks him by punching him in the face' knocking him down and starts hitting him repeatedly while stating "you are going to die". As they are on the ground Zimmermans jacket comes up revealing his firearm and Treyvon reaches for it, they struggle and Zimmerman gains control of the weapon and shoots Treyvon one time in the chest.
I do not know what happened but, the defense sold this and the prosecution had nothing criminal on zimmerman! Every one wishes he would have stayed in the car.
The defense showed that concrete can be a lethal weapon.
For all anyone KNOWS it happened exactly as zimmerman states and he would have been killed if, he was carryinmg a fireamr; or it happened completely different but, the trial convinced 6 human beings that zimmerman was not proven to have committed this crime!!
People need to stop stipulating their theories and focus on what we know.
Menacing wasn't relevant to a Murder 2 charge, which was the wrong charge. We can all agree to that. But listen to the 911 call - Zimmerman is obviously running when the dispatcher says "are you following him". It's obvious from the background noise, and was obvious to the dispatcher. So running and following = chasing. And chasing a 17-year-old through a dark alley on a rainy night is at the very least negligence.
There's no doubt Zimmerman was guilty of aggravated manslaughter - if that had been the charge, deliberations would have lasted 12 seconds.