Re: Not only will the ACA drive premiums up in Ca. 64 to 146% the IRS will police it!
posted at 6/5/2013 11:30 AM EDT
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Illegal immigration to the United States is the act of foreign nationals entering the United States, without government permission and in violation of United States nationality law, or staying beyond the termination date of a visa, also in violation of the law.
The illegal immigrant population of the United States in 2008 was estimated by the Center for Immigration Studies to be about 11 million people, down from 12.5 million people in 2007. Other estimates range from 7 to 20 million. According to a Pew Hispanic Center report, in 2005, 56% of illegal immigrants were from Mexico; 22% were from other Latin American countries, primarily from Central America; 13% were from Asia; 6% were from Europe and Canada; and 3% were from Africa and the rest of the world."
Must be 11 million cuz.......um, ah.......obama said so.
Must be 20 million cuz....um, ah...... a big internets DAWG says so.
And yet you cite things saying it was 11 mil in 2008 and anywhere between 5 and 20 in 2005.
Exactly dummy! If those numbers are from 2005, just imagine what they are now! Let`s see.......we have the worst president in the history of earth, we have nobody guarding the border, we are giving free HC to all, free food stamps to all, free EBT cards to all, and free phones to all. Let`s not forget 99 weeks of free money too........and YOU CAN VOTE!!!
Geee...........those illegal numbers must have shrunk........LOL!
Let me guess, you believe they have ......right?
The numbers don't matter - they aren't coming to the US because our health-care system is first-rate. You don't see hospitals in border cities flooded with dying immigrants. They are here for other reasons, and eventually need emergency care.
There's an argument to be made that we do have the most advanced medical abilities in the world, but who cares if 90% of the population is priced out of taking advantage of them? It's not the extremely poor who are traveling to Mexico and Costa Rica for MRIs or surgical operations - it's middle class families who either don't have insurance, can't afford the ridiculous deductible, or need to keep it all under the radar to avoid insurance rates increases.
Maybe we have the most advanced medical capabilities in the world, but we also have the most broken system.
Most broken system? It wasnt broken, but ObamaCare will break it.
Prior to ObamaCare, poll after poll showed huge majorities of Americans were satisfied with their health care coverage. 81 to 91 percent satisfaction. Government-run health care as an option was never popular, and still isnt.
The purpose of enacting ObamaCare changes every 5 minutes...From "cost savings" LOL...to protecting the poor (for which we already have innumerable programs) ...to "keeping the uninsured from ripping us off"...liberals playing tough guy! Sorry, for the image of Dems as tough enforcers and protectors of tax dollars...picture Don Knotts.
The real reason is to screw up the system so bad that single payer will be the next solution.
That's a fantasy - the majority of those satisfied were either receiving government care or were so insulated from the costs by their employers that they had no idea of the real costs of health care. Cost savings and preventing absorption of uninsured care are the same thing. Obamacare was never about protecting the poor - they are already protected by Medicaid.
This is from a fox news article from 2004 - health care costs would rise 50% between 2004 and 2008...
One-third of Americans told pollsters that the U.S. health care system should be completely rebuilt, far more than residents of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, or the U.K. Just 16 percent of Americans said that the U.S. health care system needs only minor changes, the lowest number expressing approval among the countries surveyed.
Four in 10 U.S. adults told researchers that they had gone without needed care because of the cost, including skipping prescriptions, avoiding going to the doctor, or skipping a recommended test or treatment.
Meanwhile, 26 percent of Americans surveyed said that they had faced more than $1,000 in out-of-pocket health care costs in the last year, compared with 14 percent of Australians, and 4 percent of Britons.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/2004/10/29/us-trails-others-in-health-care-satisfaction/#ixzz2VM7Qoiem