NRA breaks silence, says exactly what they were anticipated to say.

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    Then let's propose a tax to be levied on gun buyers, gun stores and gun makers, to fully finance the employment of professional guards in each of the 100,000+ public schools.  Sounds fair right?

     
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    Putting armed guards is WAY more logical for prevention than banning gun or clip!!

     

     
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    Re: NRA breaks silence, says exactly what they were anticipated to say.

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    Putting armed guards is WAY more logical for prevention than banning gun or clip!! 



    So spanky, how do you propose to pay for all those armed guards, their salaries, benefits, training, weapons etc?

     

     

     
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    In response to tvoter's comment:

    Putting armed guards is WAY more logical for prevention than banning gun or clip!!

     




    moron...that armed guard will be among the deceased.  Probably the first one shot in a surprise attack. 

    Ft Hood army base experienced a massacre where one guy shot over 40 trained soldiers, killing 13. What's a rent-a-cop going to do in the face of a Newtown style attack?

     
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    The National Rifle Association broke its week-long silence this morning to call on lawmakers to offer an armed guard to each and every school in America to prevent tragic school shootings like the one that killed 26 people in Newtown last week.

     

    "The only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be personally involved and invested in a plan of absolute protection," CEO and executive VP Wayne LaPierre said at high-profile and combative press conference in Washington, D.C. "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

     

    LaPierre waited until roughly 20 minutes into his press conference to unveil that proposal. Before he got to it, however, he cast blame on "bload-soaked films" and "vicious violent video games" for creating a culture of violence and on lawmakers behind gun-free school zones and the "national media machine" for demonizing guns.

    ____________________________________________________________________   Right.   Heroic movies about WWII violence didn't cause mass shootings, but The Bourne Supremacy does.   Westerns glorifying gunfights didn't cause mass shootings, but Die Hard does.   Letting 14 year olds go hunting and shoot animals didn't cause mass shootings, but letting them shoot fake demons in Doom 3 does.   Lettings kids play "cops and robbers" and pretend to shoot eachother didn't cause mass shootings, but Call of Duty does.

     

     

    Very good NRA. Don't even bother to blame the individuals. Blame video games. And demand that teachers arm themselves to the teeth.....

     

    ....Because that won't send a message to the kids? But video games does?

     



    What IS causing mass shooting?

     
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    In response to tvoter's comment:

    Putting armed guards is WAY more logical for prevention than banning gun or clip!! 




    moron...that armed guard will be among the deceased.  Probably the first one shot in a surprise attack. 

    Ft Hood army base experienced a massacre where one guy shot over 40 trained soldiers, killing 13. What's a rent-a-cop going to do in the face of a Newtown style attack?



    The army base casualties were by a member of the army and he went into an area he knew there were no guns allowed!!

    An armed trained guard would not be standing out front waiting to be shot!

    You are a real moron!!

     
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    In response to UserName99's comment:

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    Putting armed guards is WAY more logical for prevention than banning gun or clip!! 




    moron...that armed guard will be among the deceased.  Probably the first one shot in a surprise attack. 

    Ft Hood army base experienced a massacre where one guy shot over 40 trained soldiers, killing 13. What's a rent-a-cop going to do in the face of a Newtown style attack?



    The army base casualties were by a member of the army and he went into an area he knew there were no guns allowed!!

    An armed trained guard would not be standing out front waiting to be shot!

    Odds are if, this coward knew there was armed opposition he wouldnt go there!!

    You are a real moron!!




     
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    In response to tvoter's comment:

    Putting armed guards is WAY more logical for prevention than banning gun or clip!!

     




    moron...that armed guard will be among the deceased.  Probably the first one shot in a surprise attack. 

    Ft Hood army base experienced a massacre where one guy shot over 40 trained soldiers, killing 13. What's a rent-a-cop going to do in the face of a Newtown style attack?



    All with two handguns (non-assault weapons)...one being semi-auto the other being a revolver.

     
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    An armed trained guard would not be standing out front waiting to be shot!



    So where would he be standing?

    Schools have numerous doors and windows. How many guards would you need to cover them all? The point of having an armed guard is to deny entry so they have to be outside, at every entry point, including windows.

     
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    In response to tvoter's comment:

    An armed trained guard would not be standing out front waiting to be shot!


    So where would he be standing?

    Schools have numerous doors and windows. How many guards would you need to cover them all? The point of having an armed guard is to deny entry so they have to be outside, at every entry point, including windows.



    Our school keeps every door locked from the outside (with push handles to go out).

    A fairly wide perimeter around the school and you can only enter through the front!

    its not that hard to defend with a little training!

     
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    In response to WhichOnesPink2's comment:

    What IS causing mass shooting?



    I'd be one serious evil b@stard if I knew the answer to that but wasn't sharing.

     

    That doesn't provide a basis to blame things that obviously cannot be causing it given the absence of mass shootings despite the presence of very similar things in the past.

    First off no one assumed you weren't sharing something. You seem to have an opinion on pretty much everything else so I thought I'd ask.

    Second, my asking the question does not in turn mean I think it's ok to put blame where it may not belong.

     

     

     

     
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    In response to tvoter's comment:

    Putting armed guards is WAY more logical for prevention than banning gun or clip!!


    1. First target.

    2. Sweet. Let's completely militarize our country out of a need for safety. Just like Homeland Security and TSA, the founders would love that idea.




    There you go again.

    btw: if the coward knew he would face armed opposition he probably would have choose that target.

    keep every door locked from the outside (with push handles to go out).

    A fairly wide perimeter around the school and you can only enter through the front!

    its not that hard to defend with a little training!

     
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    Odds are if, this coward knew there was armed opposition he wouldnt go there!!



     

    Hey spanky, there's a reason even military bases don't allow people walking around armed to the teeth. They don't even allow soldiers to have weapons in their quarters. There's a reason they have armories with which to safely store weapons, numbnuts.

    Because they know that at any given time, anyone could snap and start shooting. They know that you can't predict the behavior of every person, even in a closed military base. But you can limit access to the weapons that would inflict the most casualties.

    Yet you idiots expect to be able to filter the entire country through some sort of pyschological sieve and be able to determine who should own the most deadly weapons manufactured.

    Who's the fvcking moron? 

     
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    Re: NRA breaks silence, says exactly what they were anticipated to say.

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    In response to tvoter's comment:

    An armed trained guard would not be standing out front waiting to be shot!




    So where would he be standing?

     

    Schools have numerous doors and windows. How many guards would you need to cover them all? The point of having an armed guard is to deny entry so they have to be outside, at every entry point, including windows.




    And don't forget the coverage needed for the sports teams when they travel, or the field trips.  And you better have a plan when any of these guards are out sick.

     
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    ......Wow, just wow....but then again what should I expect from the NRA.

     Such a classy bunch of maggots!

     
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    Our school keeps every door locked from the outside (with push handles to go out). A fairly wide perimeter around the school and you can only enter through the front! its not that hard to defend with a little training!



    Are you freakin serious?

    You're the one who wanted absolutes.

    So the only absolute way to protect every child is with a squad of heavily armed, highly trained para-military personnel. 

    That was your requirement. 

     
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    Re: NRA breaks silence, says exactly what they were anticipated to say.

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    In response to 12-Angry-Men's comment:

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    An armed trained guard would not be standing out front waiting to be shot!


    So where would he be standing?

    Schools have numerous doors and windows. How many guards would you need to cover them all? The point of having an armed guard is to deny entry so they have to be outside, at every entry point, including windows.



    Our school keeps every door locked from the outside (with push handles to go out).

    A fairly wide perimeter around the school and you can only enter through the front!

    its not that hard to defend with a little training!



    Armed guards are not the answer. Locked doors is the norm in the town I coach at. Is it fool proof? Of course not, as we saw in CT, but that doesn't mean we should make it easy for these nutcases either. Having loaded guns in a school setting is a recipe for disaster.

    When I was in grade school one of the kids in my class stole a key to the school, made copies for all of us. We would sneak around the school getting into all sorts of locked areas. Now, where we went wasn't particularly interesting but the point I'm trying to make is kids get into mischief all the time. Imagine kids knowing a gun is in a locked desk. I guarantee you kids will try to get at it and in some cases succeed.

     

     

     

     
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    It is estimated to cost appox $50,000 just to train and equip one soldier.

    That doesn't include ongoing salary, benefits training etc.

    You wingnuts do the math.

     
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    Still waiting for an answer as to how the wingnuts propose to pay for the initial and ongoing costs this extra security and hardening of the schools would cost.

     

    Anyone... Beulher...Buehler...anyone....

     
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    Wait, let me guess...lower taxes.

     

    Geez, I crack myself up.

     
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    You hired off duty cops or most local PD's will likely provide security since they are charged with protecting the community and the school is part of the commuinity!

    The POINT IS:

    If these cowards who go after the weak and unarmed (school, cafeteria on an army base where guns are not allowed) they will most likely not go to a school if, they kjknow there is armed opposition!

    We protect our money, businesses, car in parking lots with armed guards but, we get push back for using them to protect out kids??

    That just shows that some people are more concerns with politics and gun laws than the safety of kids or others!!

     
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    Also, Columbine had an armed guard.

     His name was Neil Gardner




    True and he likely reduced the death toll by engaging the shooters, much like the argument that assault weapons ban would reduce the death toll!

     
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