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NRA=GOP

  1. You have chosen to ignore posts from MattyScornD. Show MattyScornD's posts

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    Liberals in general are angry and violent, particularly when confronted with the failures of their policies and thought process. 



    Anger and violence is often the only language conservatives understand or respond to, i.e. bogus "peace through strength" and "perceived weakness" rhetoric.  They seem to share this trait with certain other fundamentalists.

    You are guilty yourself of stereotyping libs as weak-kneed or passive to a fault.  The derogative failure is yours.

    Speaking only for myself, I grew up in a violent place and learned to defend myself and family accordingly.  Nearly as many dems own guns as repubs.  Nearly as many.

     

     
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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

    Liberals in general are angry and violent, particularly when confronted with the failures of their policies and thought process. 



    Anger and violence is often the only language conservatives understand or respond to, i.e. bogus "peace through strength" and "perceived weakness" rhetoric.  They seem to share this trait with certain other fundamentalists.

    You are guilty yourself of stereotyping libs as weak-kneed or passive to a fault.  The derogative failure is yours.

    Speaking only for myself, I grew up in a violent place and learned to defend myself and family accordingly.  Nearly as many dems own guns as repubs.  Nearly as many.

     



    You are guilty of the same stereotyping, and you don't even see it.

    I don't see "peace through strength" as violent.  How is that violent.  It is deterrence.

    I think you fail to see the real-world implications of putting all your trust in government for your protection.  It is a recipe for failure.

     
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    Re: NRA=GOP

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

    Liberals in general are angry and violent, particularly when confronted with the failures of their policies and thought process. 



    Anger and violence is often the only language conservatives understand or respond to, i.e. bogus "peace through strength" and "perceived weakness" rhetoric.  They seem to share this trait with certain other fundamentalists.

    You are guilty yourself of stereotyping libs as weak-kneed or passive to a fault.  The derogative failure is yours.

    Speaking only for myself, I grew up in a violent place and learned to defend myself and family accordingly.  Nearly as many dems own guns as repubs.  Nearly as many.

     



    You are guilty of the same stereotyping, and you don't even see it.

    I don't see "peace through strength" as violent.  How is that violent.  It is deterrence.

    I think you fail to see the real-world implications of putting all your trust in government for your protection.  It is a recipe for failure.

     
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  14. You have chosen to ignore posts from MattyScornD. Show MattyScornD's posts

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    You are guilty of the same stereotyping, and you don't even see it.

    I don't see "peace through strength" as violent.  How is that violent.  It is deterrence.

    I think you fail to see the real-world implications of putting all your trust in government for your protection.  It is a recipe for failure.



    I never said I was innocent.  Sorry to foil yet another one of your baseless assumptions.

    "Peace though strength" is macho posturing...nothing more...and inane, at that.

    You're wrong again.  Didn't I just tell you that I've taken on my family's protection as a personal responsibility as a gun owner...?  Which part of that don't you understand...??

    Here's a recipe: think before you write.

     

     
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    Didn't I just tell you that I've taken on my family's protection as a personal responsibility as a gun owner...?

     

    Everyone should be so responsible. Sadly, guns have been (and are being) demonized to the point that most people have an unreasoned fear of them.

     

     
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    Didn't I just tell you that I've taken on my family's protection as a personal responsibility as a gun owner...?

     

     

    Everyone should be so responsible. Sadly, guns have been (and are being) demonized to the point that most people have an unreasoned fear of them.

     




    Guns are inanimate objects and as such, cannot be "demonized".  As expressed here and elsewhere, only people can be demonic.

    Fear of guns can be entirely rational depending on one's pathology.  Not to be too glib, but guns are tools, not solutions.

    I agree, though, that "fear" is at the root of some of these problems.

     

     
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    The nutty absolute test that NARAL holds over Liberals is just like the what NRA holds over the conservatives.

    There are rational discussions and limits they both should accept.

     
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    The nutty absolute test that NARAL holds over Liberals is just like the what NRA holds over the conservatives.

    There are rational discussions and limits they both should accept.



    Sorry, but NARAL doesn't have even half the political sway the NRA does.  It's not even close.

     

     
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    Re: NRA=GOP

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

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    You are guilty of the same stereotyping, and you don't even see it.

    I don't see "peace through strength" as violent.  How is that violent.  It is deterrence.

    I think you fail to see the real-world implications of putting all your trust in government for your protection.  It is a recipe for failure.



    I never said I was innocent.  Sorry to foil yet another one of your baseless assumptions.

    "Peace though strength" is macho posturing...nothing more...and inane, at that.

    You're wrong again.  Didn't I just tell you that I've taken on my family's protection as a personal responsibility as a gun owner...?  Which part of that don't you understand...??

    Here's a recipe: think before you write.

     



    think before I wrote? Such anger, so little understanding, and you are making my point about the anger that is key to a leftist ideology.  You lack the capacity to listen and digest what you are being told.

    The typical liberal response is that guns are bad, need to be completely regulated out of society.

    Good for you that you protect your family with legal fire arms.

     
  20. You have chosen to ignore posts from MattyScornD. Show MattyScornD's posts

    Re: NRA=GOP

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    In response to skeeter20's comment:


    You are guilty of the same stereotyping, and you don't even see it.

    I don't see "peace through strength" as violent.  How is that violent.  It is deterrence.

    I think you fail to see the real-world implications of putting all your trust in government for your protection.  It is a recipe for failure.



    I never said I was innocent.  Sorry to foil yet another one of your baseless assumptions.

    "Peace though strength" is macho posturing...nothing more...and inane, at that.

    You're wrong again.  Didn't I just tell you that I've taken on my family's protection as a personal responsibility as a gun owner...?  Which part of that don't you understand...??

    Here's a recipe: think before you write.

     



    think before I wrote? Such anger, so little understanding, and you are making my point about the anger that is key to a leftist ideology.  You lack the capacity to listen and digest what you are being told.

    The typical liberal response is that guns are bad, need to be completely regulated out of society.

    Good for you that you protect your family with legal fire arms.




    There's no anger here, just annoyance at your usual obtuseness, a smidge of pity for your small mind and a healthy dose of cynicism, which can be the pepper in a good debate.

    By your definition, I would not be a "typical liberal" then?  Lucky me, I guess.  :P

    No offense, but you consistently misread and underestimate exactly what my "capacities" are.  I'm fairly confident that I can argue rings around you on most days ending in "y".

    But back on topic:

    So, what if I defended my family with illegal firearms?  Does that fall within the purview of govt, to you...?

     

     
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    Re: NRA=GOP

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    In response to massmoderateJoe's comment:

    The nutty absolute test that NARAL holds over Liberals is just like the what NRA holds over the conservatives.

    There are rational discussions and limits they both should accept.



    Sorry, but NARAL doesn't have even half the political sway the NRA does.  It's not even close.

     



    NARAL and Emily's List swing a lot of weight with liberal voters; maybe not quite the same as NRA but the same type of redmeat issue and response.  Both require absolute endorsement or there is retribution. 

     
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    Re: NRA=GOP

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    In response to massmoderateJoe's comment:

    The nutty absolute test that NARAL holds over Liberals is just like the what NRA holds over the conservatives.

    There are rational discussions and limits they both should accept.



    Sorry, but NARAL doesn't have even half the political sway the NRA does.  It's not even close.

     



    Really? What's the abortion body count?

    unlike the NRA, NARAL specifically endorses killing innocents.

     
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    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

    think before I wrote? Such anger, so little understanding, and you are making my point about the anger that is key to a leftist ideology.  You lack the capacity to listen and digest what you are being told.

     


    Calling your opponent "angry" doesn't win an argument.



    What does winning have to do with this discussion? 

    the left doesn't listen, responds to all other opinions with emotional anger.  

    You call that a winning technique?  I call that childish.

     
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  25. You have chosen to ignore posts from MattyScornD. Show MattyScornD's posts

    Re: NRA=GOP

    In response to massmoderateJoe's comment:

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    In response to massmoderateJoe's comment:

    The nutty absolute test that NARAL holds over Liberals is just like the what NRA holds over the conservatives.

    There are rational discussions and limits they both should accept.



    Sorry, but NARAL doesn't have even half the political sway the NRA does.  It's not even close.

     



    NARAL and Emily's List swing a lot of weight with liberal voters; maybe not quite the same as NRA but the same type of redmeat issue and response.  Both require absolute endorsement or there is retribution. 



    Again, I disagree they're remotely comparable to the clout held by the NRA - which reflects on both sides significantly, whereas the abortion question is very clearly delineated.

    You could say the 2nd Amt. is the reason for this, but then the terms of comparison are different.

     

     
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