Obama could be losing a significant portion of his base.

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    Obama could be losing a significant portion of his base.

    Over the past few weeks, there have been two very distinct lobbying efforts directed at President Barack Obama over environmental and energy policy. One has been done very publicly — more than 1,000 activists, ranging from celebrities and scientists to former Obama campaign organizers — have been arrested outside the White House, protesting the proposed Keystone XL pipeline, which would transport half a million barrels a day of carbon-intensive crude from oil-sands developments in western Canada. The other effort has been a bit quieter: representatives from industry groups like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the American Petroleum Institute have heavily lobbied the White House to abandon a move by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to strengthen air-pollution regulations that limit smog.

    So which lobbying campaign won out? Maybe not the one you'd expect for a President who came into office two and a half years ago with the greenest credentials in recent memory. On Sept. 2, President Obama shocked his environmental allies when he pulled back the proposed tougher smog standards, despite the fact that the EPA had been promising stronger rules for months. Meanwhile, the Keystone XL pipeline — which needs White House approval — seems almost certain to go forward, with a State Department assessment last month seen as largely in favor of the project and Administration officials signaling their support. Big business won while activists and environmentalists lost out. www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2086421,00.html" target="_blank">(See why the GOP has a hidden agenda to gut the EPA.)

    From the extreme to the mainstream, environmental groups reacted to Obama's announcement on smog with the fury of the scorned. It didn't help that Obama's political capital with environmentalists was already dwindling after his perceived failure to push through carbon cap-and-trade legislation and the gradual disappearance of global warming as a White House priority. Greens pondered aloud how a President they had worked so hard to elect, one who had pledged to put science before politics, could screw them over so badly — and they asked whether he was no longer worth the same effort in 2012. "Many MoveOn members are wondering today how they can ever work for President Obama's re-election, or make the case for his to their neighbors, when he does something like this," MoveOn executive director Justin Ruben said in a statement. "This is a decision we'd expect from George W. Bush."



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    In Response to Re: Obama could be losing a significant portion of his base.:
    I suppose all of those watermelons do not have cars nor do they need to heat their homes. Bunch of looney tunes.
    Posted by Newtster


    What??
     
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    No worries.  Obama is importing a new base with his backdoor amnesty.
     
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    Re: Obama could be losing a significant portion of his base.

    You either need to look up the word 'significant' or 'base'. 
     
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    Barbara boxer wants the greens to sue the administration over the retraction on new air quality standards and it is rumored that the EPA chief who was blindsided on the air quality decison has had enough and will be resigning soon.
     
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    Luckily, the GOP is so far out to lunch on environmental issues, nothing short of POTUS stomping on a spotted owl will get the greens to vote for anyone else...

    ...besides, if the election will truly be a referendum on the economy, the only real "green" anyone will talk about is money.
     
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    In Response to Re: Obama could be losing a significant portion of his base.:
    You either need to look up the word 'significant' or 'base'. 
    Posted by Thesemenarecowards


    You will write any little thought that pops into your head, won't you?
     
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    In Response to Re: Obama could be losing a significant portion of his base.:
    Luckily, the GOP is so far out to lunch on environmental issues, nothing short of POTUS stomping on a spotted owl will get the greens to vote for anyone else... ...besides, if the election will truly be a referendum on the economy, the only real "green" anyone will talk about is money.
    Posted by MattyScornD

    True but he is losing the passion of his base and some may sit home sulking or vote for some obscure green candidate.  Neither adds votes to his bottom line.

     
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    In Response to Re: Obama could be losing a significant portion of his base.:
    Luckily, the GOP is so far out to lunch on environmental issues, nothing short of POTUS stomping on a spotted owl will get the greens to vote for anyone else... ...besides, if the election will truly be a referendum on the economy, the only real "green" anyone will talk about is money.
    Posted by MattyScornD


    Maybe they just stay home and don't vote!
     
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    Re: Obama could be losing a significant portion of his base.

    Maybe he doesnt care about winning re-election any more; he could make a lot more money and noise as a speaker.
     
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    In Response to Re: Obama could be losing a significant portion of his base.:
    Obama losing his base? But neocons told me his base was "leftists", socialists, and communists? How could he be losing his base? I thought Obama was an extremist liberal socialist communist             (and throat-ramming dictator, for those orally fixated neocons who       haven't prayed things away) Oh. People were , hyperventilating exagerrating and/or lying IMBECILES. Gotcha. Thanks.
    Posted by WhatDoYouWantNow


    You keep spewing the same lame lines. js!
     
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    In Response to Re: Obama could be losing a significant portion of his base.:
    Obama losing his base? But neocons told me his base was "leftists", socialists, and communists? How could he be losing his base? I thought Obama was an extremist liberal socialist communist             (and throat-ramming dictator, for those orally fixated neocons who       haven't prayed things away) Oh. People were , hyperventilating exagerrating and/or lying IMBECILES. Gotcha. Thanks.
    Posted by WhatDoYouWantNow

    Obama hasn't been strong with his base who are an uncompromising lot. Obama now is having to abandone his base to try and win the support of the middle, its unfortunately most likley too late for the country and his presidency.  The next year will be a battle with a powerless president who didn't react in time to the changing political winds.  In fact, his mistake was HCR and his presidency has been paying for it ever since.  The rebuke he saw in 2010 should have caused him to make a radical centrist shift like Clinton but he failed to make the transition do to his underestimating of the problem and the fact that his base refused to accept it, ...and then there is the jobs problem which has played back seat politics since his inauguaration..

     
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    In Response to Re: Obama could be losing a significant portion of his base. : There are only so many ways I can call you a "liar" sk8ter. The English language is finite.
    Posted by WhatDoYouWantNow


    You obviously don't knowwhat the word means or your just ignorant. either way WINNING!!!!
     
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    Sorry folks, but if your candidate is anyone but Romney Obama can denounce rap, beat up a gay, shoot a fur seal, and outlaw hedge funds and he's still getting elected.  Obama does not need to win TX or AL or MS.  He doesn't need to try to win NY, CA, MI.  He needs to win either OH or VA/NC or FL.  That's it.  He also doesn't need to court blacks.  So its probably a good thing for you that there are no blacks in NC/VA or FL.  Oh wait.  And before you start citing national polls keep in mind nobody polls the blacks and the elcection is 14 months away.  Also keep in mind that Bush and Reagan were reelected after recessions.  If the opposition doesn't run a legit candidate then they can't win against an incumbent.  Dole was a legit candidate and he got trounced (granted there was no recession).
    Posted by movingtarget3


    Obama's chances in Florida are slim to nil!!
     
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    Sorry folks, but if your candidate is anyone but Romney Obama can denounce rap, beat up a gay, shoot a fur seal, and outlaw hedge funds and he's still getting elected.  Obama does not need to win TX or AL or MS.  He doesn't need to try to win NY, CA, MI.  He needs to win either OH or VA/NC or FL.  That's it.  He also doesn't need to court blacks.  So its probably a good thing for you that there are no blacks in NC/VA or FL.  Oh wait.  And before you start citing national polls keep in mind nobody polls the blacks and the elcection is 14 months away.  Also keep in mind that Bush and Reagan were reelected after recessions.  If the opposition doesn't run a legit candidate then they can't win against an incumbent.  Dole was a legit candidate and he got trounced (granted there was no recession).
    Posted by movingtarget3



    If this was a popular election, I might agree.  Yes, there are that many stupid people out there that will light the match of the timebomb they are holding.

    But, this is an electoral college system, which does not favor Obama this time around.  Those rascally founding fathers had some common sense after all!

    Still, I think it is too far out to lock in a win or a loss.
     
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    Romney or Perry is going to win.....and the electoral votes from MA will be going to one of them, not Obama.
     
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    In Response to Re: Obama could be losing a significant portion of his base.:
    Put down the pipe.  Romney couldn't win MA.  Ever.  And Perry has as much chance as Jesus.  Romney could win NH, however.  Perry couldn't win a state with a lteracy rate above 85%.
    Posted by movingtarget3


    I seldom pick up the pipe until the weekend.

    If Romney were to win the popular vote, the electoral votes in MA go to him.  Its the law in MA now.
     
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    He's heading to the cliff at a fast pace and cannot stop even though he knows he should!
     
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    Re: Obama could be losing a significant portion of his base.

    calling Ralph Nader!
     
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