Obama falsely claims credit for America's energy boom

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    As for Obama failing to reach his energy goals, it's sad, but that's what the second term is for...and no thanks to the house repubs for blocking every single effort he's put forth merely out of spite.

     




    5 milllion Volts would have been sold, but for John Boehner...LOL

    Liberals spend billions on electric cars, a failure by all accounts, and the liberal answer is, we didnt "invest" enough taxpayer money!!!

    Failure in the public sector,  just leads to more investment in failure.

    The production cost of a Volt is nearly twice that of the other vehicles in the General Motors fleet, and it’s sales are far below any of those other models as well....all John Boehner's fault, out of spite!

     
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    Re: Obama falsely claims credit for America's energy boom

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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

     

     

    As for Obama failing to reach his energy goals, it's sad, but that's what the second term is for...and no thanks to the house repubs for blocking every single effort he's put forth merely out of spite.

     

     




     

    5 milllion Volts would have been sold, but for John Boehner...LOL

    Liberals spend billions on electric cars, a failure by all accounts, and the liberal answer is, we didnt "invest" enough taxpayer money!!!

    Failure in the public sector,  just leads to more investment in failure.

    The production cost of a Volt is nearly twice that of the other vehicles in the General Motors fleet, and it’s sales are far below any of those other models as well....all John Boehner's fault, out of spite!



    Again, you miss the forest for the trees by focusing only on plug-ins.  Typically weak riposte from a weak mind.  Electric cars are not a failure by ANY reputable account, which rightly precludes yours.  Improved CAFE standards have and will prove you wrong by twenty-fold.

    How you can argue against infrastructure investments in renewables and efficiency innovations without any real proof or facts to back you up is beyond me.  You are truly living in the past of whale oil lamps and coal-fired ovens.

    The markets have already left you behind.  Likewise, the next generation who believes strongly in conservation and a cleaner environment has almost entirely left the climate-denying republicans behind to the tune of millions of votes.

     

     
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    Re: Obama falsely claims credit for America's energy boom

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    Putting tax payer money into electric car companies is premature. There is very little environmental benefit at this point until the grid is improved. The public money should go into the grid and developing alternatives that generate to the grid instead of point sources like a car. It is all done for political favors, not by common sense. 


    Agreed, but that's not really what's happening.  The tax credit on hybrids and electric cars is at the retail level, so the taxpayer gets a break, the dealer gets a sale, the builder moves a unit, and so on.  It's an incentive, not an investment.

    Also agreed that the grid is the bigger issue...made even worse because of its invisibility to most people.  The only time they get upset is when they lose power or trees get cut down.  If they really understood how the grid worked and how demand response and load sharing worked, they would be up in arms.

    (CLC's comments about the Volt in context of the auto bailouts are unfounded, as usual.)

     

     

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