Obama fatigue

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    Obama fatigue

    Same absurd hyperbole.....in the speech, a line  "it is not about me; it was about you";    but the hubris of such a statement is that he had to tell you it isnt about himself...
    "You were the change" It is all about Obama....

    "I'm the President"...really? Yet you arent responsible for the worst recovery from a recession since the 1930s...


    GOP response:
    "Four years ago, Barack Obama stood in front of Greek columns and told a cheering stadium that he'd make life better for Americans.

    · Now, the critical question is this: "Are you better off than you were four years ago?"

    · Americans know the answer is "no." They are not better off than they were four years ago.

    · No president has ever asked to be re-elected with this many Americans out of work.

    · Tonight, President Obama failed to make the case why the next four years will be any different than the last four.

    · He offered more promises, but he's failed to keep the promises he made four years ago.

    o Even President Obama himself called his own record "incomplete" when asked to grade his time in office.

    · Despite President Obama's promises, things did not get better. We're in the midst of the worst economic recovery since the Great Depression.

    23 million Americans are struggling for work.
    Chronic unemployment is the highest in recorded history.
    More than half the jobs created since the recession ended are low-wage jobs.
    Household income has fallen by more than $4,000.
    More than 10 million homeowners are underwater on their mortgages.
    Gas prices have more than doubled.
    Family healthcare premiums have increased by more than $2,300.
    Poverty rates are headed toward a 50-year high.
    Nearly 47 million Americans are on food stamps.

    · The last four years may be the best President Obama can do – but it's not the best America can do.




     

     
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    Re: Obama fatigue

    Byron York:
    President Obama’s supporters are hoping he’ll deliver a boffo address to the Democratic convention tonight — perhaps one equaling Bill Clinton’s widely-praised speech from Wednesday night.  Maybe he will, maybe he won’t. But even if he does, Romney strategists believe it will have little effect on the undecided voters who will pick the next president.

    The reason is that research has shown those voters discount Obama’s rhetorical ability when they listen to him. They’ve heard him a lot, perhaps too much, in the last five years. Should he make a great speech — something he has not actually done as president — they will simply say, “Oh yeah, we know he can talk.  We’ve heard it all before.  It’s what he’s done that matters.”

    If that is true, it suggests there’s really not much the president can say that will change minds on Thursday night — even those minds that are most open to change.  Perhaps there are some things Obama could do to improve his standing with independent voters, but talking isn’t one of them.  So on Thursday night, there could be a downside for Obama, especially if he comes off badly compared to Clinton.  But upside?  Other than praise from some of the usual media suspects, not much

     
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    Re: Obama fatigue

    What happen in September/October 2008 was the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.  Are you really expecting the recovery to take less time than recessions caused by business cycles?  Do you not grasp what happened in 2008?
     
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    Re: Obama fatigue

    In response to TFefio's comment:

    Oh, back to blame bush. Talk about fatigue. 



    So any attempt to quantify the magnitude of the financial crisis is blaming Bush?  I was just trying to point out that since the financial crisis was the worst since the great depression, that expecting the recovery to not be the worst since the great depression was kind of silly.

    You guys wouldn't support Obama even if we had full employment.
     
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    Re: Obama fatigue

     DWL has a point on this one. There's no way Obama could've fixed the situation in one term, and it is still unlikely, should he stay in office, that he could do it in two terms.
     However, having said that, by now he shold've started to do something about it, and after 4 years, he hasn't done much. The fact is that things are worse now than they were before, and that's what John Q. Public is going to look at.
     

     
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    Re: Obama fatigue

    In response to DirtyWaterLover's comment:

    What happen in September/October 2008 was the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.  Are you really expecting the recovery to take less time than recessions caused by business cycles?  Do you not grasp what happened in 2008?



    Actually, now beside the point.  The Republican Establishment will re-install the Bush II government.  They declared for Mr. Romney in November.


    Why would anyone, right or left, except The Republican Establishment, want to go back?
     
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    Re: Obama fatigue

    In response to Firewind's comment:

    In response to DirtyWaterLover's comment:

    What happen in September/October 2008 was the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.  Are you really expecting the recovery to take less time than recessions caused by business cycles?  Do you not grasp what happened in 2008?



    Actually, now beside the point.  The Republican Establishment will re-install the Bush II government.  They declared for Mr. Romney in November.


    Why would anyone, right or left, except The Republican Establishment, want to go back?

     



    Well, actually there are a group of folks, like me and a few others, that believe Romney can keep us from going off the financial cliff.  This has nothing to do with Bushs' economic policies, Romney is a pro.

    We all know that Obama cannot stop the train from de-railing, Romney has the business background to make it work. 

    What don't you get?

    Obama has failed, he himself graded his four years as incomplete for the economy, why wouldn't America want a change?

    Romney and Ryan are a solid financial and moral team that can get the country back on track, period.

    Obama, not so much, sorry. 

     
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    Re: Obama fatigue

    After 4 YEARS, Barry failed.
    He contributed more to the problem than Bush ever did AND by spending trillions to present false (and expensive) placebos (the payback stimulus, the GM disaster) and burdened Americans for generations to come. .


    Willed ignorance...exhibit A
     
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    Re: Obama fatigue

    The problem is that the government is neither a business nor a corporation. A "CEO President" cannot just cast off parts of the country that aren't pulling their weight or outsource essential functions that private industry isn't willing or capable of doing.

    In spite of the recession, there has been no shortage of investment in U.S. bonds, which means that many investors still see the U.S. as the best game around.

    Regardless of blame, all indications are that the financial crisis was caused by a mutual roll-back of banking regulations AND lax enforcement of whatever regulations remained.  Couple this with cheap money in the form of mortgage and home equity loans as well as un-regulated credit default swaps, and it was a financial perfect storm.

    My own #1 problem with the Obama Admin. has been their unwillingness or ineptitude in indicting and prosecuting the various bad actors in the worst financial FUBAR in almost 80 years.  That's bad, and I guarantee that history will NOT look kindly upon it.

    Now, we're presented with a smooth, wealthy operator from... the financial services industry??!!  Really!??!

    It's one thing to have an executive who drags his feet and won't hold the right people responsible.  But it's quite another to have an executive who thinks that everything that happened was just peachy and might actually  approve of that behavior.  That is just f****d up and going from bad to worse.



     
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    Re: Obama fatigue

    exactly!  Government is not a business. A president's job is not to make a profit for investors, but to (ideally, anyway) represent all the citizens. And, as much as conservatives may find it repellant, this includes children, the elderly, the sick and disabled, and the one in three people just one illness or job loss away from destitution and homelessness.
     
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