Obama: I am willing to negotiate fiscal issues and _changes_ to health care law, but raise the limit first

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    Obama: I am willing to negotiate fiscal issues and _changes_ to health care law, but raise the limit first

    THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP’s earlier story is below.

    President Barack Obama says he’s fighting the budget battle because ‘‘we can’t make extortion routine as part of our democracy.’’

    Obama says he’s willing to not only negotiate fiscal issues with Republicans, but changes to health care law. But he says first he wants them to pass a bill to stop a partial government shutdown.

    Obama noted in a news conference at the White House Tuesday that the shutdown already made him cancel a trip to Asia this week. He argued the shutdown is hurting U.S. credibility around the world and — quote — ‘‘makes it look like we don’t have our act together.’’

     
     
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    let me guess; this isn't negotiation or leading because Obama isn't giving into all GOP demands before they raise the debt limit.
     
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    Re: Obama: I am willing to negotiate fiscal issues and _changes_ to health care law, but raise the limit first

    So, give me everything I want and then I'll negotiate?

    wow.  Just wow.  This guy knows no shame.

     
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    Re: Obama: I am willing to negotiate fiscal issues and _changes_ to health care law, but raise the limit first

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    So, give me everything I want and then I'll negotiate?

    wow.  Just wow.  This guy knows no shame.



    Yes just say the opposite of what someone else said and pat yourself on the back. Have a biscuit.

     

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    Re: Obama: I am willing to negotiate fiscal issues and _changes_ to health care law, but raise the limit first

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    THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP’s earlier story is below.

    President Barack Obama says he’s fighting the budget battle because ‘‘we can’t make extortion routine as part of our democracy.’’

    Obama says he’s willing to not only negotiate fiscal issues with Republicans, but changes to health care law. But he says first he wants them to pass a bill to stop a partial government shutdown.

    Obama noted in a news conference at the White House Tuesday that the shutdown already made him cancel a trip to Asia this week. He argued the shutdown is hurting U.S. credibility around the world and — quote — ‘‘makes it look like we don’t have our act together.’’

        _____________   let me guess; this isn't negotiation or leading because Obama isn't giving into all GOP demands before they raise the debt limit.



    OK let's do it and all claim short term victory.

    Pass a 3 month CR with the requirement to meet on budget and ACA.

    GOP wins, they forced a DEM commitment to negotiation, nice job fellas

    Dems win as they forced the GOP to pass a clean CR (nothing given up under extortion), nice job fellas

    Pass this and get to work and while Congress is at it the can raise the Debt ceiling to cover the next 6 months or better yet 12 months and we can hit it 1 month before the 2014's.

     

     
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    Re: Obama: I am willing to negotiate fiscal issues and _changes_ to health care law, but raise the limit first

    In response to NowWhatDoYouWant's comment:

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

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    So, give me everything I want and then I'll negotiate?

    wow.  Just wow.  This guy knows no shame.

     


    Yes just say the opposite of what someone else said and pat yourself on the back. Have a biscuit.

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    Thats exactly what he saying "pass a clean bill" aka everything I want. Then (after you have no bargaining position) we can negotiate!

    you can't be a lawyer and not see that!?

     
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    Re: Obama: I am willing to negotiate fiscal issues and _changes_ to health care law, but raise the limit first

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    THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP’s earlier story is below.

    President Barack Obama says he’s fighting the budget battle because ‘‘we can’t make extortion routine as part of our democracy.’’

    Obama says he’s willing to not only negotiate fiscal issues with Republicans, but changes to health care law. But he says first he wants them to pass a bill to stop a partial government shutdown.

    Obama noted in a news conference at the White House Tuesday that the shutdown already made him cancel a trip to Asia this week. He argued the shutdown is hurting U.S. credibility around the world and — quote — ‘‘makes it look like we don’t have our act together.’’

        _____________   let me guess; this isn't negotiation or leading because Obama isn't giving into all GOP demands beforethey raise the debt limit.

     




     

    I think we should just believe him.  He`s been so forthright in the past.........why not?

    LOL!

    Worst, most incompetent, lying-P OS, cheap excuse for a president, in history.  Fortunately, America may be finally waking up.............

    Reuters 10/9/13:  Obama approval= 37% 

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    bigdog: "YOU LIE!"

     

    Bravo.

     

     

     
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    Re: Obama: I am willing to negotiate fiscal issues and _changes_ to health care law, but raise the limit first

    "Obama says he’s willing to not only negotiate fiscal issues with Republicans, but changes to health care law. But he says first he wants them to pass a bill to stop a partial government shutdown."

     

    So, Obama admits the obvious: he was unwilling to negotiate before, in fact, the only time he previously negotiated anything with the GOP House was in 2011, when the House previously refused to bow down.

    Obama and Harry Reid have never allowed compromise to their zealous advocacy of endless excessive Government spending and Government expansion, that is a fact.

    An Obama promise to negotiate in the future: worthless.

     
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    Re: Obama: I am willing to negotiate fiscal issues and _changes_ to health care law, but raise the limit first

     "He already has what he wants, an duly passed ACA law that has been adjudicated by SCotUS to be Constitutional and is now being implemented.'

    Let me fix that for you:

    "He already has what he wants, an duly passed ACA law that has been adjudicated by SCotUS to be Constitutional,  and is now yet again proving the utter failure and incompetence of Government running anything other than a lemonade stand.

     
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    Re: Obama: I am willing to negotiate fiscal issues and _changes_ to health care law, but raise the limit first

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    "Obama says he’s willing to not only negotiate fiscal issues with Republicans, but changes to health care law. But he says first he wants them to pass a bill to stop a partial government shutdown."

     

    So, Obama admits the obvious: he was unwilling to negotiate before, in fact, the only time he previously negotiated anything with the GOP House was in 2011, when the House previously refused to bow down.

    Obama and Harry Reid have never allowed compromise to their zealous advocacy of endless excessive Government spending and Government expansion, that is a fact.

    An Obama promise to negotiate in the future: worthless.

     




    Look, another angry-white-bigot yelling at clouds.

     



    The race card, how predictable.

     
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    Re: Obama: I am willing to negotiate fiscal issues and _changes_ to health care law, but raise the limit first

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    THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP’s earlier story is below.

    President Barack Obama says he’s fighting the budget battle because ‘‘we can’t make extortion routine as part of our democracy.’’

    Obama says he’s willing to not only negotiate fiscal issues with Republicans, but changes to health care law. But he says first he wants them to pass a bill to stop a partial government shutdown.

    Obama noted in a news conference at the White House Tuesday that the shutdown already made him cancel a trip to Asia this week. He argued the shutdown is hurting U.S. credibility around the world and — quote — ‘‘makes it look like we don’t have our act together.’’

        _____________   let me guess; this isn't negotiation or leading because Obama isn't giving into all GOP demands beforethey raise the debt limit.

     

     



    OK let's do it and all claim short term victory.

     

     

    Pass a 3 month CR with the requirement to meet on budget and ACA.

    GOP wins, they forced a DEM commitment to negotiation, nice job fellas

    Dems win as they forced the GOP to pass a clean CR (nothing given up under extortion), nice job fellas

    Pass this and get to work and while Congress is at it the can raise the Debt ceiling to cover the next 6 months or better yet 12 months and we can hit it 1 month before the 2014's.

     

     

     




     

    And what assurances are the wingnuts offering that they won't pull this stunt gain in 3 months if they lose?

     

    How about this: Actually follow the appropriations process outlined in the Constitution.

    The House sent their bill to the Senate.

    The Senate, under Article 1, amended it and sent it back to the House.

    The next step is for the House to hold a vote.

    They haven't.

    That is where the process outlined in the Constitution has stopped. With the wingnuts failing to even hold a vote.

    The House has a vote on the clean CR.

    If the wingnuts win and defeat the clean CR then they go to negotiation with everything on the table including ACA.

    The Dems win and the gov't gets funded for a year, at sequestration levels, and the debt limit raised for a year.

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    So you're backing away from the President's offer.

     
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    Re: Obama: I am willing to negotiate fiscal issues and _changes_ to health care law, but raise the limit first

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    So, give me everything I want and then I'll negotiate?

    wow.  Just wow.  This guy knows no shame.


    Yes just say the opposite of what someone else said and pat yourself on the back. Have a biscuit.

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    Thats exactly what he saying "pass a clean bill" aka everything I want. Then (after you have no bargaining position) we can negotiate!

    you can't be a lawyer and not see that!?

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    That's exactly why if he is lying, the GOP gets more points in next year's election. Then they can have a chance to repeal it the honest democratic way: with votes.

    you can't be a human and not see that !?

     

    This isn't a partisan issue. Observe:

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    Only the most committed ideologues are still cheering on the GOP for its current strategy.

    If 28% of people disapprove of the Republican party, that's a lot of Republicans who are PO'd right now.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I've said a million times that I think that no matter what your opinion of Obamacare is, the GOP strategy is wrong, dangerous, and idiotic.

     

     
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    Re: Obama: I am willing to negotiate fiscal issues and _changes_ to health care law, but raise the limit first

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    So, give me everything I want and then I'll negotiate?

    wow.  Just wow.  This guy knows no shame.

     

     


    Yes just say the opposite of what someone else said and pat yourself on the back. Have a biscuit.

     

     

     



    Thats exactly what he saying "pass a clean bill" aka everything I want. Then (after you have no bargaining position) we can negotiate!

     

     

    you can't be a lawyer and not see that!?

     

     

    That's exactly why if he is lying, the GOP gets more points in next year's election. Then they can have a chance to repeal it the honest democratic way: with votes.

    Its not about points! It's about Obama getting a partisan bill passed into LAW and then giving his cronies aka unions, certain corporations, and congress either delays, waivers or special treatment but, refuses to do that with the remaining American people!!

    you can't be a human and not see that !?




     

     
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    Re: Obama: I am willing to negotiate fiscal issues and _changes_ to health care law, but raise the limit first

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                                            Date           Sample     Approve   Disapprove     Spread

    Rasmussen Reports 10/6 - 10/8     1500 LV           50            49                 +1

     

     




     

     

    Wasn`t it you, airborne, that said rasmussen sux?




    Wasn't it you that said they didn't?

     

    Just using a source you trust.



    Got to admit, concerned_citizen is slicker than a greased pig....he cant be pinned down...

    .(oops , forgot WDYWN has indicated that Republicans are "lying swine", but at least we arent greased swine.)

     
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    Re: Obama: I am willing to negotiate fiscal issues and _changes_ to health care law, but raise the limit first

    In response to NowWhatDoYouWant's comment:

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    So, give me everything I want and then I'll negotiate?

    wow.  Just wow.  This guy knows no shame.

     

     



    Yes just say the opposite of what someone else said and pat yourself on the back. Have a biscuit.

     

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Dog-biscuit.jpg

     

     

     

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    But, it is what Obama said. So, take your biscuit back.  I have filled up on the truth.

     
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    Re: Obama: I am willing to negotiate fiscal issues and _changes_ to health care law, but raise the limit first

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    THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP’s earlier story is below.

    President Barack Obama says he’s fighting the budget battle because ‘‘we can’t make extortion routine as part of our democracy.’’

    Obama says he’s willing to not only negotiate fiscal issues with Republicans, but changes to health care law. But he says first he wants them to pass a bill to stop a partial government shutdown.

    Obama noted in a news conference at the White House Tuesday that the shutdown already made him cancel a trip to Asia this week. He argued the shutdown is hurting U.S. credibility around the world and — quote — ‘‘makes it look like we don’t have our act together.’’

        _____________   let me guess; this isn't negotiation or leading because Obama isn't giving into all GOP demands beforethey raise the debt limit.

     

     



    OK let's do it and all claim short term victory.

     

     

    Pass a 3 month CR with the requirement to meet on budget and ACA.

    GOP wins, they forced a DEM commitment to negotiation, nice job fellas

    Dems win as they forced the GOP to pass a clean CR (nothing given up under extortion), nice job fellas

    Pass this and get to work and while Congress is at it the can raise the Debt ceiling to cover the next 6 months or better yet 12 months and we can hit it 1 month before the 2014's.

     

     

     




     

    And what assurances are the wingnuts offering that they won't pull this stunt gain in 3 months if they lose?

     

    How about this: Actually follow the appropriations process outlined in the Constitution.

    The House sent their bill to the Senate.

    The Senate, under Article 1, amended it and sent it back to the House.

    The next step is for the House to hold a vote.

    They haven't.

    That is where the process outlined in the Constitution has stopped. With the wingnuts failing to even hold a vote.

    The House has a vote on the clean CR.

    If the wingnuts win and defeat the clean CR then they go to negotiation with everything on the table including ACA.

    The Dems win and the gov't gets funded for a year, at sequestration levels, and the debt limit raised for a year.

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    "The next step is for the House to hold a vote"

    where do you see this in Article 1?

    mind you, I am not saying that they shouldn't, as I tire of this stalemate. I don't think you will find that in the Constitution.

     
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