Obama on using the "Nuclear Option"

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    Not a uniter.. a divider of classes and races.
    King George II has nothing to worry about how history defines him.. next to the current TOTUS.
     
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    more whining from neocons?

    that's original
     
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    Of course. When the Left speaks up it's considered voicing their opinion, standing up for what they believe in, etc., etc.. Someone on the Right speaks up about something and it's "whining". Gotcha!
     
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    perhaps if it wasn't a 24-hour whinefest for a year, you might get a little leeway

    You lost. Get over it. It's been a year for chrissakes
     
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    code word for Jews? Is that a joke?
     
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       IT WILL BE THE "BIG O's"  DEMISE.......... GO AHEAD,  "MAKE MY DAY"  !!!!
     
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    code word for Jews? Is that a joke?
    Posted by Hansonbrother



    Holy cow...I did some research. You weren't joking. This theory - that neocon is shorthand for "Jew" - was, apparently, first widely espoused by Rush Limbaugh and William Kristol

    What kind of lunacy is this? How many times can you play the victim card before it explodes. How many times do conservatives whine about people using the race card, only to pull the 'religion' card?

    What in the f*ck happened to this country?
     
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    In Response to Re: Obama on using the "Nuclear Option":
    In Response to Re: Obama on using the "Nuclear Option" : I just asked a question. You didn't answer it.
    Posted by Newtster



    if your question is whether or not I hate Israel and/or Jews and/or if I am a friend of the Palestinian cause, the answer is no. I am a Jew. Bought an Apple IIe with my bar mitzvah money.
     
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    perhaps if it wasn't a 24-hour whinefest for a year, you might get a little leeway You lost. Get over it. It's been a year for chrissakes
    Posted by Hansonbrother


    LOL....as opposed to the 24-hour whinefest for EIGHT years by the Dems. Boy do you have one short memory. You guys lost and then lost again. Why didn't YOU get over it? Hell, you guys STILL aren't over it.
     
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    In Response to Re: Obama on using the "Nuclear Option" : LOL....as opposed to the 24-hour whinefest for EIGHT years by the Dems. Boy do you have one short memory. You guys lost and then lost again. Why didn't YOU get over it? Hell, you guys STILL aren't over it.
    Posted by hawkeye01


    tiny difference - Bush was given a chance. Hell, after 9/11, he had virtually unprecedented support both in Washington and in the nation as a whole

    And he blew it disgracefully

    you've been whining about Obama since a year before he was elected
     
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    In Response to Obama on using the "Nuclear Option":
    "You know, the Founders designed this system, as frustrating it is, to make sure that there's a broad consensus before the country moves forward....I would like to think that this is something that we could sort out...And I think that the way to sort it out would be for this administration to do what every administration previous to this one has done; which is to say, ‘Here are a set of nominees. Let's run them by members of Congress on both sides of the aisle, figure out which of these judges generate the most heat, are considered most out of the extreme, and then let's work out what the list is of judges who in fact can gain some bipartisan support.’ I mean, that's what every president has done up until this point.” “And what we have now is a president who has decided, you know, ‘I've gotten 95 percent of my appointees, but there are these 10 that I want just because I want them.’ Hasn't gotten his way. And that is now prompting, you know, a change in the Senate rules that really I think would change the character of the Senate forever.” “And what I worry about would be you essentially have still two chambers -- the House and the Senate -- but you have simply majoritarian absolute power on either side, and that's just not what the founders intended,” Can you spell FLAMING HYPOCRITE??????
    Posted by Newtster


    Newster has been caught in the same lie as i mentioned in another post.....the nuclear option as he speaks of that Obama did not agree with has NOTHING to do with reconciliation.....

    here's Hannity telling the big lie on video 

    http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002577/

    n fact, Reid, Obama, and Clinton did not oppose the use of reconciliation, the process through which major Bush initiatives such as his tax cuts and higher education reform were passed. The senators were actually speaking out against a Republican effort to eliminate the filibuster in the middle of a session of the U.S. Senate. It had nothing to do with reconciliation, which was used twice in 2005 without any objections from Reid, Obama, or Clinton.

     
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    In Response to Re: Obama on using the "Nuclear Option" : tiny difference - Bush was given a chance. Hell, after 9/11, he had virtually unprecedented support both in Washington and in the nation as a whole And he blew it disgracefully you've been whining about Obama since a year before he was elected
    Posted by Hansonbrother


    He did have support in regards to 9/11. No doubt. But before and after that he did not. The Left was reeling over the election. They were foaming at the mouth about the "stolen" election. He wasn't given a chance at all. The Left relented a bit after 9/11, but that was only because of patriotism towards the country, not towards supporting Bush himself.
    You guys whined about the stolen election for...well....you guys still do so we're talking 10 years now. When are you going to get over it? Then you whined when you lost again to him. You guys STILL aren't over it. So enough with whining about Reps "whining"
     
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    In Response to Re: Obama on using the "Nuclear Option" : He did have support in regards to 9/11. No doubt. But before and after that he did not. \
    Posted by hawkeye01


    How can you still not get this? The reason he lost support is because, and history has proven this beyond a shadow of a doubt, he was a disaster. Iraq, the economy, etc. He took an 8-year steaming dump on this country, and even in the midst of that was given a chance when the chips were down

    stop pretending like it was partisan about Bush. He was an unmitigated disaster.

    You whine about obama because there's a "d" after his name. If only you had that same low bar when it came to fraudulently invading foreign countries
     
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    In Response to Re: Obama on using the "Nuclear Option" : How can you still not get this? The reason he lost support is because, and history has proven this beyond a shadow of a doubt, he was a disaster. Iraq, the economy, etc. He took an 8-year steaming dump on this country, and even in the midst of that was given a chance when the chips were down stop pretending like it was partisan about Bush. He was an unmitigated disaster. You whine about obama because there's a "d" after his name. If only you had that same low bar when it came to fraudulently invading foreign countries
    Posted by Hansonbrother

    It's you that doesn't seem to grasp it. But that ok I expected that. Especially since you keep saying that I whine about Obama, which I've never done. Not one post from me where I whine about Obama.
    No, it wasn't partisan with Bush at all....lol

    Another reason you don't get it is that it wasn't me who invaded a foreign country. You seem to not grasp that it was Bush who did that. Wasn't me. I thought going into Iraq was a mistake from day 1. But you continue with your incorrect assumptions. One day you might actually get one right

     
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    FACT: the nuclear option was introduced in 05 under a republican majority to seat gw judicial nominees.  So, nice revison of history.  Also, since 1981, reconcilliation has been used 22 times and 16 by the republicans.   The truth hurts that way... OOPS!
    Posted by aces1


    That stands to reason given that the Reps have been in the white house 20 out of the last 29 years.
     
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    That stands to reason given that the Reps have been in the white house 20 out of the last 29 years.
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    It's the Congress who would invoke the 'nuclear option' not the president so this post makes no sense.
     
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    That stands to reason given that the Reps have been in the white house 20 out of the last 29 years. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's the Congress who would invoke the 'nuclear option' not the president so this post makes no sense.
    Posted by 12angrymen


    Right because the president has no influence whatsoever.
     
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    The trickery involved in the Democrats using the reconciliation process would have you howling mad if it were a Republican doing it.
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    Actually what has me howling....laughing is the wingnuts crying foul over reconcilliation. Talk about hypocrisy. Quit the whinning already
     
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    Re: Obama on using the "Nuclear Option"

    If Obama wants to resort to the insanity of amending a bill that does not exist then he can go ahead and try.
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    What the heck are you talking about?
    There are two bills, one passed by the House, one by the Senate. The reconcilliation process is used to reconcile these two into a law, end of story.
     

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