Obama proposes lowering corporate taxes, but closing loopholes...

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    Obama proposes lowering corporate taxes, but closing loopholes...

    ...and the biggest issue in the article appears in the third paragraph.

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    President Obama is set to unveil a plan Wednesday to lower the corporate tax rate from 35 to 28 percent. The administration says the proposal would generate revenue by eliminating "dozens" of loopholes and subsidies, and by setting a minimum tax on foreign earnings, Politico reports.

    The proposed corporate tax framework would also provide preference to manufacturers, ensuring a maximum effective tax rate of 25 percent. 

    Although the corporate tax code is badly in need of reform, Wednesday's announcement is more political than practical: With Congress unlikely to pass any major legislation this year, the reform blueprint will primarily serve as a talking point for Obama's re-election campaign.

    Republicans (including Mitt Romney) and business groups have called for a 25 percent corporate tax rate. Some are in favor of keeping the current loopholes and subsidies as well, the New York Times explains. Although the 35 percent tax rate is one of the highest in the world, as Republicans are fond of saying, corporations end up paying just slightly more in taxes on average than their competitors in other developed companies do, thanks to the aforementioned loopholes. Some American corporations even pay zero in federal taxes.

    The elimination of loopholes is aimed to offset the considerable loss of revenue anticipated by a lowered corporate tax rate. The 28 percent rate itself is in alignment with the findings of the Congress's nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation, which found that reducing the tax rate below 28 percent would add to the deficit, even if every current corporate tax break were eliminated. Republicans dispute that finding, saying the committee failed to consider a number of "obscure" tax breaks that could be scrapped to lower the rate further, the Times notes.

    But some analysts question whether the elimination of some tax subsidies and loopholes will be enough to make up for what the 28 percent rate would add to the deficit. Some of the more popular corporate tax breaks are supported by both political parties and are unlikely to be scrapped.

      http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2012/02/22/obama_corporate_tax_plan_lowers_rate_to_28_percent_.html

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    I get it, but it's a damn shame.

    Obama didn't make his proposal until now, so that he could campaign on it in an election year.

    Republicans won't take it up even though it's one of their ideas, so that they don't have to look like they agreed with Obama in an election year.

    Something that makes sense whether we're talking corporate/personal taxes: Getting rid of loopholes, but also lowering taxes a bit so that the change doesn't work a net increase in taxes....

    ....is not going to happen because politicians are full of sh*t.
     
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    Where's the "99%"?
     
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    Where's the "99%"?
    Posted by GreginMeffa


    Ask Warren.
     
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    I think this is his way of getting rid of the loopholes he tried to close last year, but the GOP rejected.  He is playing their horse trading game.  He will give them what they want (lower taxes) in exchange for closing loopholes that are exploited in ways not originally intended.  Of course the GOP will just say no and go back to railing against abortion and claiming the devil is coming for America. 
     
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    I think this is his way of getting rid of the loopholes he tried to close last year, but the GOP rejected.  He is playing their horse trading game.  He will give them what they want (lower taxes) in exchange for closing loopholes that are exploited in ways not originally intended.  Of course the GOP will just say no and go back to railing against abortion and claiming the devil is coming for America. 
    Posted by DamainAllen

    and if the GOP does that, they will be hearing from me.

    Intended to end a bitter trade war with Europe, the election-year measure was described by supporters as critically necessary to aid beleaguered manufacturers who have suffered 2.7 million lost jobs over the past four years.

    “[The bill is] going to help our manufacturers — that will save $77 billion over the next 10 years for the manufacturing sector of America,” Bush said. “That will help keep jobs here.”

    But opponents charged that the tax package had grown into a massive giveaway that will add to the complexity of the tax system and end up rewarding multinational companies that move jobs overseas.

    MSNBC, October, 2004
     
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    Re: Obama proposes lowering corporate taxes, but closing loopholes...

    "Although the corporate tax code is badly in need of reform, Wednesday's announcement is more political than practical: With Congress unlikely to pass any major legislation this year, the reform blueprint will primarily serve as a talking point for Obama's re-election campaign."

    From the article, nothing is going to happen, Obama knows this, he's in desparation mode.


    Throw anything against the wall, see if it sticks, if it doesn't move on.


    The fact that he is trying all this so soon is quite telling, he'll be shooting blanks by August.  But hey, no one ever said he was that bright anyways......

     
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    After several years of offering oblique generalities about the need to lower the corporate tax, Obama is finally putting his money where his mouth is.  Last week, Congressman Dave Camp called out Timothy Geithner for not offering a corporate tax cut in the President’s FY 2013 budget.  So with much fanfare, Geithner has unveiled a proposal to cut the top corporate tax rate from 35% to 28%.

    So is Obama a born-again supply side tax cutter?  Not by a long shot.

    Here are the facts.

    • Let’s remember that 28% is still higher than the average rate among industrialized countries, even among European countries.  As AEI’s Alex Brill observes, Obama’s proposal would take our corporate tax rate from last place (34th) to 32nd place.
      There had been a bipartisan consensus to lower the rate to 25%, in line with the OECD average.  Moreover, when coupled with state corporate taxes, which don’t exist in most other countries, the corporate tax rate may still be over 35% in many localities.
    • Like with all Obama tax cuts, there are sundry tax increases included in the plan, totaling $250 billion.  Obama would require U.S. companies operating overseas to pay a new minimum tax rate on their foreign earnings.  Instead of following a bipartisan plan to encourage businesses to bring their profits home through a one-time repatriation holiday, he is using the boot of government to punish them.  Obama also plans to eliminate a lot of deductions for oil and gas companies, such as expensing on drilling investments and depletion of wells.  These are not loopholes; they are universal investment deductions that factor in the cost of doing business.  Those costs will be passed down to the consumer if this plan passes.
    • Any benefits that would be actualized as a result of the corporate tax cut would be vitiated by Obama’s triple taxation of corporate dividends.  As the WSJ points out, under Obama’s 2013 budget, the corporate dividends tax rate would rise from 15% to 44.8% next year
     
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    While we all want a lower flatter tax, this plan does not lower the marginal rates enough to warrant the elimination of these deductions.  Moreover, if you’re going to eliminate credits and deductions for those companies that pay millions in taxes, why not eliminate them for every business, including green energy firms that pay no taxes to begin with?  Yet, Obama plans to renew the Production Tax Credit handout for Big Wind, a credit that is unfortunately supported by some Republicans
    http://www.redstate.com/dhorowitz3/2012/02/22/obama-the-tax-cutter-think-again/
     
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    Easter Bunny
    Santa Claus
    Tooth Fairy
    US tax code without loopholes
     
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    In Response to Re: Obama proposes lowering corporate taxes, but closing loopholes... : Ask Warren.
    Posted by WhatDoYouWantNow



    The 99% are out cashing the welfare checks the rest of us paid for.