Obama secretly lifts sanctions on Iran? WTH???

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    Obama secretly lifts sanctions on Iran? WTH???

    He better know what the F he's doing!!

    The Obama administration began softening sanctions on Iran after the election of Iran’s new president in June, months before the current round of nuclear talks in Geneva or the historic phone call between the two leaders in September.

    “For five months, since Rouhani’s election, the United States has offered Iran two major forms of sanctions relief,” Dubowitz said. “First there’s been a significant slowdown in the pace of designations while the Iranians are proliferating the number of front companies and cutouts to bust sanctions.”

    The second kind of relief Dubowitz said the White House had offered Iran was through its opposition to new Iran sanctions legislation supported by both parties in Congress.

    By Dubowitz’s estimates, Iran is now selling between 150,000 and 200,000 barrels of oil per day on the black market, meaning that Iran has profited from the illicit sale of over 35 million barrels of oil since Rouhani took office, with little additional measures taken by the United States to counter it.

    “Sounds like Obama decided to enter the Persian nuclear bazaar to haggle with the masters of negotiation and has had his head handed to him,” Dubowitz said.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/11/08/exclusive-obama-s-secret-iran-d-tente.html

     
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    JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel's worst fears will be realized if a proposed deal by world powers goes ahead with Tehran, sharply curtailing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu options in his campaign against Iran's contested nuclear program.

    The possible accord might not only tie Israel's hand in any future military action against Iran, but it could also have an unexpected knock-on effect and stymie U.S.-brokered negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians.

    In a bitter outburst, Netanyahu denounced on Friday the contours of an Iranian agreement leaked to the media, once again putting himself in direct conflict with Washington.

    "This is a very bad deal and Israel utterly rejects it," Netanyahu said as he headed into his third round of talks in just 48 hours with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry.

    "Israel will do everything it needs to do to defend itself and to defend the security of its people," he told reporters.

    Tellingly, Kerry did not appear in public with the Israeli leader on Friday and instead flew off in silence to Geneva to join talks between Iran and six world powers, including Russia, China and the European Union.

     
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    After the Cairo apology speech, the disasterous Arab Spring, supporting the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, arming Al Qaeda in Syria, is anyone beginning to wonder about this guy?

    Who's side is he on? It is a mystery.

    It is going to end badly.

     
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    I think he is too easily manipulated by these leaders, Putin and now this guy.

    He wants to trust them but, he trusts before he verifies which in this situation could be catastrophic.

     
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    EXCLUSIVE!!

    Fox News finds photos of Obama celebrating the deal with Iran:

     

     
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    What's needed is more Cowboy Diplomacy in the middle east. 

     

     
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    In response to UserName9's comment:


    What's needed is more Cowboy Diplomacy in the middle east. 

     



    No, just a seasoned, smart negotiator that is not easily manipulated and one that understands the Ayatollahs are still in charge!

     
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    Posted by A_Concerned_Citizen

    Wingnuts wouldn't be happy unless we invaded and lost 4000 American dead and 35,000 wounded.

    What do they care, it's only statistics to them.

    Bunch of useless poltroons.

     

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    So...were Dems happy about 58K dead and 153K wounded??? 

     
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    Heh, heh, heh...ACC's drivel is saved in my post. He can cry all he wants...it's still available for all to see. Frankly he should be embarrassed by what he posted. It's sheer lunacy if he really believes ANYONE would be happy about soldiers being killed and wounded.

     
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    The government hasn't proposed lifting all the sanctions on Iran, they have proposed easing back on some of them as a show of good faith but even the sanctions that may be relaxed require Iran committment to several consessions.  This is diplomacy and in the absense of diplomacy we are only left with war.  Would you rather exhaust diplomatic methods and then go to war as a last resort, or would you prefer we just start lobbing bombs?

     
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    In response to DamainAllen's comment:

    The government hasn't proposed lifting all the sanctions on Iran, they have proposed easing back on some of them as a show of good faith but even the sanctions that may be relaxed require Iran committment to several consessions.  This is diplomacy and in the absense of diplomacy we are only left with war.  Would you rather exhaust diplomatic methods and then go to war as a last resort, or would you prefer we just start lobbing bombs?



    No. They stopped tracking Irans backroom deals aka (fronts for selling oil) and allowed over 35 million barrels to be sold on the market by Iran!

    I bet that money is need to uranium enrichment which aint cheap!

     
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    In response to tvoter's comment:

    In response to DamainAllen's comment:

    The government hasn't proposed lifting all the sanctions on Iran, they have proposed easing back on some of them as a show of good faith but even the sanctions that may be relaxed require Iran committment to several consessions.  This is diplomacy and in the absense of diplomacy we are only left with war.  Would you rather exhaust diplomatic methods and then go to war as a last resort, or would you prefer we just start lobbing bombs?



    No. They stopped tracking Irans backroom deals aka (fronts for selling oil) and allowed over 35 million barrels to be sold on the market by Iran!

    I bet that money is need to uranium enrichment which aint cheap!



    They did not stop tracking the front companies and so forth, as I understand it there appears to be some relaxation of how many designations have been issued for Iranian entities.   I think the message behind that is simple:  We can work with you to improve your economic standing, but in return we have to receive some serious consessions regarding the nuclear program.  If anything it is small olive branch that can be rescinded at any time.  

     
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    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

    Heh, heh, heh .... wingnuts' idea of 'free speech' ... report any posts that hurt their delicate sensibilities.

    Figures, the chickenhawks showing off their lack of heuvos again.



    Still doingthe delete your own post and then complain about thing?

     
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    In response to DamainAllen's comment:

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    In response to DamainAllen's comment:

    The government hasn't proposed lifting all the sanctions on Iran, they have proposed easing back on some of them as a show of good faith but even the sanctions that may be relaxed require Iran committment to several consessions.  This is diplomacy and in the absense of diplomacy we are only left with war.  Would you rather exhaust diplomatic methods and then go to war as a last resort, or would you prefer we just start lobbing bombs?



    No. They stopped tracking Irans backroom deals aka (fronts for selling oil) and allowed over 35 million barrels to be sold on the market by Iran!

    I bet that money is need to uranium enrichment which aint cheap!



    They did not stop tracking the front companies and so forth, as I understand it there appears to be some relaxation of how many designations have been issued for Iranian entities.   I think the message behind that is simple:  We can work with you to improve your economic standing, but in return we have to receive some serious consessions regarding the nuclear program.  If anything it is small olive branch that can be rescinded at any time.  



    If this president is as astute as he claims, particularly in his understanding of the muslim world, then he woudl know this sign of weakness will be responded to with a taking.

     
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    In response to skeeter20's comment:

    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

    Heh, heh, heh .... wingnuts' idea of 'free speech' ... report any posts that hurt their delicate sensibilities.

    Figures, the chickenhawks showing off their lack of heuvos again.



    Still doingthe delete your own post and then complain about thing?



    He wasn't quick enough as I captured the bull he posted in my post

     
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    In response to DamainAllen's comment:

    The government hasn't proposed lifting all the sanctions on Iran, they have proposed easing back on some of them as a show of good faith but even the sanctions that may be relaxed require Iran committment to several consessions.  This is diplomacy and in the absense of diplomacy we are only left with war.  Would you rather exhaust diplomatic methods and then go to war as a last resort, or would you prefer we just start lobbing bombs?




    Damain, do you believe it's possible to deal with Iran in good faith?

     

     
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    In response to StalkingButler's comment:

    In response to DamainAllen's comment:

    The government hasn't proposed lifting all the sanctions on Iran, they have proposed easing back on some of them as a show of good faith but even the sanctions that may be relaxed require Iran committment to several consessions.  This is diplomacy and in the absense of diplomacy we are only left with war.  Would you rather exhaust diplomatic methods and then go to war as a last resort, or would you prefer we just start lobbing bombs?




    Damain, do you believe it's possible to deal with Iran in good faith?

     



    Iran isn't irrational, an all out war does them no good and they can look at the many regimes that hae crumbled around them for reference.  The US has a moral obligation to its people to explore options before sendings its men and women to fight.  

     
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    In response to DamainAllen's comment:

    In response to StalkingButler's comment:

    In response to DamainAllen's comment:

    The government hasn't proposed lifting all the sanctions on Iran, they have proposed easing back on some of them as a show of good faith but even the sanctions that may be relaxed require Iran committment to several consessions.  This is diplomacy and in the absense of diplomacy we are only left with war.  Would you rather exhaust diplomatic methods and then go to war as a last resort, or would you prefer we just start lobbing bombs?




    Damain, do you believe it's possible to deal with Iran in good faith?

     



    Iran isn't irrational, an all out war does them no good and they can look at the many regimes that hae crumbled around them for reference.  The US has a moral obligation to its people to explore options before sendings its men and women to fight.  



    You think the ayatollahs who have a stated goal of driving jews into the sea are rational?

     
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    You cant keep your health insurance or your doctor but he is going to let Iran keep their nuclear program!!!!!!!!!...(not my words but still funny)

     
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    Netanyahu doesn't like his increased marginalization as he's constantly sought favor with the president's gop opponents in Congress.  His tantrums are getting old.

    The fact that he's fuming so badly about it (and so many others around the world are praising it) makes me think something beneficial might occur...

    ...but I'm not holding my breath. Other than trading arms with them in the 80s, the U.S. hasn't been this close to a deal with Iran in 30 years.

     

     

     
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    Yes we know better than Netanyahu about the Iranians and the middle east....not.

     
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