Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

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    Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    How does that make any sense?

    He sues AZ for supremacy, and the Feds having the right to determine policy, and yet, he ignores every city that set immigration policy by establishing sanctuary cities.

    Obama is insane, and this country is a joke.  No intelligent, thinking person would ever see this as being reasonable.

    Obama is doing nothing but pandering to hispanics for votes. 

    I cannot wait to capmaogn against Obama.  I am ashamed of my vote for him.   
     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    And yet they are not going after the AZ law for racial profiling.  Civil rights are not even mentioned in the lawsuit.

    This lawsuit will fail, and then Obama will go on TV and tell all hispanics that he loves them and repubs hate them.

    This guy is becoming more offensive everyday.  He told us he would bring us all together, uniting us.

    He has done the complete opposite.  The racial divide has not been greater for decades.  Dems and Repubs are more at each others throats than they have been, even under Bush.

    Obama is woefully unqualified.  Unfortunately, I fell for it. 
     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    Sometimes the best argument against liberalism is to let them take the wheel for a short while.

    The Obama experiment will set liberals back about 20 years.

     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    DIrty worte "A town calling itself a sanctuary vs. law enforcement officers grabbing people off the streets and throwing tghem in jail.  Yeah, it's the same thing."

    Actually, if you call out AZ for sipremacy, then yes it is the same thing.

    One is choosing to enforce our laws, the other is choosing to ignore them.  Both fall under supremacy if you want to look at it that way. 

    The point is moot however because the Feds have passed on immigration enforcement to states for years. 

    And I like your language regarding grabbing people and throwing them in jail.  It doesn't hcnage the truth however, that police have the right to throw people in jail when they break the law. 

    As far as me voting for Obama, I wish you were right. 
     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    law enforcement officers grabbing people off the streets and throwing tghem in jail. 


    Wait...law enforcement officers are just grabbing people off the streets and throwing them in jail? For no reason at all? Do you have links showing cases in AZ where this is happening?
     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    In Response to Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???:
    In Response to Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities??? : DOJ is suing AZ for something that MIGHT happen
    Posted by GreginMeffa


    Oh gotcha. And here I thought it was something silly....
     
  9. You have chosen to ignore posts from hawkeye01. Show hawkeye01's posts

    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    In Response to Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???:
    wasn't there a movie where people were arrested for what a machine said they MIGHT do?  Tom Cruise maybe?  I bet Eric Holder knows
    Posted by GreginMeffa


    Minority Report
     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    In Response to Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???:
    A town calling itself a sanctuary vs. law enforcement officers grabbing people off the streets and throwing tghem in jail.  Yeah, it's the same thing. And you never voted for Obama.  But if you did, you have to be the stupidest person that ever stepped into a voting booth because the positions you advocate on BDC are completely opposite everything Obama has said he stood for. Or did you just make assumptions and decided they were facts? Now go take your meds.
    Posted by DirtyWaterLover

    Dirty, when is the DoJ going to sue Rhode Island? The article in the Globe yesterday said they arrest illegals all the time and send them to ICE.
     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    In Response to Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???:
    In Response to Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities??? : Dirty, when is the DoJ going to sue Rhode Island? The article in the Globe yesterday said they arrest illegals all the time and send them to ICE.
    Posted by brat13


    I don't have a problem with that: in Rhode Island they are investigating state crimes and when they come across an illegal they refer them to the Feds.  In Arizona the police will be arresting illegals as trespassers and conducting searches to uncover that status.  Those issues fall under Federal jurisdiction.  We cannot have 51 immigration policies.  It would be nice if all the states followed rhode Island, not Arizona.  It would also be nice for the Feds to step up their game considerably.
     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    Reuben- what is the difference between the AZ law and what RI is doing?

    Both only check status after another law has been broken, right?

    And why are the feds going after AZ for stepping on the fed policy of immigration, and ignore cities that have stepped on fed policies by creating sanctuary cities?

    Aren't they both the same as far as supremacy is concerned?

    I am also curious into your thoughts on the New Black Panther case?  I am curious because you are a lawyer.  Have you heard of such a thing happening in the past?  And what are your thoughts on a black guy carry a billy club yelling out racial slurs about whites at a polling station.

    And thanks in advance for your response. 
     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    In Arizona the police will be arresting illegals as trespassers and conducting searches to uncover that status. 


    Will be? As in it hasn't happened yet? So how far into the future does your crystal ball see?
     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    The american-hating OBama and Holder continue on their quest to transform AMerica into a 3rd world country.  Sue AZ, Call Americans cowards, apologize to the muslim world, refuse to procesute people intimidating people at the polls.

    Come on.  jsut what is Obama doing to help us?
     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

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    In Response to Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities??? : I don't have a problem with that: in Rhode Island they are investigating state crimes and when they come across an illegal they refer them to the Feds.  In Arizona the police will be arresting illegals as trespassers and conducting searches to uncover that status.  Those issues fall under Federal jurisdiction.  We cannot have 51 immigration policies.  It would be nice if all the states followed rhode Island, not Arizona.  It would also be nice for the Feds to step up their game considerably.
    Posted by Reubenhop

    Really? 2 car accidents on I-95 are state crimes? They then ask for ID and if none is present, to the pokey they go! EXACTLY like what is written in the AZ law! Imagine THAT?
    You haven't read the law Reuben!
     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    Rueben is also very... kind by suggesting the Feds step up their game.

    What credibility does a government have when it intentionally does not or selectively enforce laws? 

    Throw the bums out... Congress that is.   
     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

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    And yet they are not going after the AZ law for racial profiling.  Civil rights are not even mentioned in the lawsuit. This lawsuit will fail, and then Obama will go on TV and tell all hispanics that he loves them and repubs hate them. This guy is becoming more offensive everyday.  He told us he would bring us all together, uniting us. He has done the complete opposite.  The racial divide has not been greater for decades.  Dems and Repubs are more at each others throats than they have been, even under Bush. Obama is woefully unqualified.  Unfortunately, I fell for it. 
    Posted by whatnow3


    You didnt vote for Obama.....please quit trying to make a meme of something so obviously false
     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    wow, bad day?

    You are acting like your avatar.

    Move along.  This conversation is for adults. 
     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    In Response to Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???:
    In Response to Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities??? : Greg, again you proven how stupid you are.....if you would just read a bit and get a few facts straight you would understand that the law has not been enacted so the Justice department would be unwise to plea that the law promotes racial profiling without it being implmented yet. The case focuses on the supremency clause.....a fact you nuts here won't acknowledge or understand (but mostly pretend to not understand the real issues here so you just wave the hate banner after the president for not seeing it your way)
    Posted by PS911fan

    We understand the Supremacy Clause. Have you read the AZ law? Have you read the US FEDERAL law? Have you read section 287 (g) of that law? Read all of the above then tell me where the AZ law over rides the federal law! YOU CAN NOT! IT DOESN'T!
     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    You didnt vote for Obama.....please quit trying to make a meme of something so obviously false


    Yeah..only those who voted for Obama can talk about him. Take that.
     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    Arizona law enforcement agencies with MOA's (Memorandums of Agreement) with DHS right now to enforce federal immigration law...

    ARIZONA Arizona Department of Corrections JAIL ENFORCEMENT 09/16/2005 link
    ARIZONA Arizona Department of Public Safety JAIL & TASK FORCE 04/15/2007 link
    ARIZONA City of Mesa Police Department JAIL & TASK FORCE 11/19/2009 link
    ARIZONA City of Phoenix Police Department JAIL & TASK FORCE 03/10/2008 link
    ARIZONA Florence Police Department TASK FORCE 10/21/2009 link
    ARIZONA Maricopa County Sheriff's Office JAIL ENFORCEMENT 02/07/2007 link
    ARIZONA Pima County Sheriff's Office JAIL & TASK FORCE 03/10/2008 link
    ARIZONA Pinal County Sheriff's Office JAIL & TASK FORCE 03/10/2008 link
    ARIZONA Yavapai County Sheriff's Office JAIL & TASK FORCE 03/10/2008 link

     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    In Response to Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???:
    In Response to Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities??? : DOJ is suing AZ for something that MIGHT happen
    Posted by GreginMeffa


    Parties go to court to get a preliminary injunction for that reason.  One specific reason preliminary injunctions exist specifically so that you can sue someone to prevent something from happening that MIGHT happen.  
     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    In Response to Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???:
    The case focuses on the supremency clause.....a fact you nuts here won't acknowledge or understand (but mostly pretend to not understand the real issues here so you just wave the hate banner after the president for not seeing it your way)
    Posted by PS911fan


    They love America and the Constitution.  Except when they don't.
     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    Maybe AZ (and other states) should sue the Federal Government for failing to enforce it's laws.. along with appropriate compensation. Those costs would be astronomical... health care, courts, prisons, welfare, food programs, translators, more prisons.

    More generally, what recourse does a state have when it is NOT being protecting by an invading army?
     
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    Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???

    In Response to Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???:
    Arizona law enforcement agencies with MOA's (Memorandums of Agreement) with DHS right now to enforce federal immigration law... ARIZONA Arizona Department of Corrections JAIL ENFORCEMENT 09/16/2005 link ARIZONA Arizona Department of Public Safety JAIL & TASK FORCE 04/15/2007 link ARIZONA City of Mesa Police Department JAIL & TASK FORCE 11/19/2009 link ARIZONA City of Phoenix Police Department JAIL & TASK FORCE 03/10/2008 link ARIZONA Florence Police Department TASK FORCE 10/21/2009 link ARIZONA Maricopa County Sheriff's Office JAIL ENFORCEMENT 02/07/2007 link ARIZONA Pima County Sheriff's Office JAIL & TASK FORCE 03/10/2008 link ARIZONA Pinal County Sheriff's Office JAIL & TASK FORCE 03/10/2008 link ARIZONA Yavapai County Sheriff's Office JAIL & TASK FORCE 03/10/2008 link
    Posted by brat13



    So, what's the problem with the law?  Seems like it hasthe same effect as the Memorandums?  I guess I'm not gettign what is so wrong with this AZ law.
     
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