Re: Obama sues Az for enforcing immigration laws, but refuses to sue states that set up sanctuary cities???
posted at 7/14/2010 2:50 PM EDT
"Not true. As a matter of fact "anchor babies" is a new phenomena! It was decided many times by the SCOTUS that a baby born in the US to a non-citizen is NOT a citizen of the US. They are a citizen of the country the parents are citizens of."
Okay jackazz, you try and assert that the babies born in the US thing is a new phenomena, and you say the SCOTUS established precedent on that. I cite the 14th amendment, part of the Constitution, although yes, it was added after the Civil War, which still makes it more than 100 years old. Incidentally in my citation I noted that the 14th amendment was added after the Civil War, and I should have distinguished between the original date of the ratification vs. the addition of the 14th.
And the author also didn't want American Indians to be citizens, and the Supreme Court has established precedent for babies born in the US to be citizens.
"In Wong Kim Ark the Supreme Court held that under the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, a man born within the United States to foreigners (in that case, Chinese citizens) who have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States and are carrying on business in the United States and who were not employed in a diplomatic or other official capacity by a foreign power, was a citizen of the United States.
Under these two rulings, the following persons born in the United States are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States, and thus do not qualify for automatic citizenship under the Fourteenth Amendment:
- Children born to foreign diplomats
- Children born to enemy forces in hostile occupation of the United States
All other persons born in the United States were citizens."
Are we seriously arguing whether babies born in the US are citizens? You might not like it, but that's the law. I was just stunned by your ignorance in the first post I responded to. Don't give me that history argument. I do a google and there's my answer to history questions. I'm not a walking encyclopedia of US history. I'm good on the late 20th century, post WW2. Let's not get into Glenn Beck lecturing us on his version of US history with his chalkboard and OLIGARHY spelling.
I'm pragmatic about the immigration issue. I think it's overblown. I think it's powered by a lot of racism. I feel like there is plenty of room in this country for immigrants who want to be good citizens. We're a nation of immigrants, and it's pretty wack to shut the door once you decided foreigners need not apply. Just accept that we're going to be overrun by Asians and Hispanics and deal with it.