Obamacare Enrollment Reaches 6 Million

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    Obamacare Enrollment Reaches 6 Million

    WASHINGTON -- The number of people who have chosen a health care plan through a state or federal exchange topped 6 million on Thursday, putting the administration ahead of revised projections with several days before the enrollment deadline.

    The number, which was announced by President Barack Obama during a conference call on Thursday, reflects a major uptick in interest in health care coverage ahead of the deadline. The administration has revised that end date a bit so that people in the queue by March 31 have time to complete their application process should they run into issues.

    Original projections had approximately 7 million people signing up for private plans through the state and federal Obamacare exchanges during the six-month enrollment period. That number was revised significantly downward after major technical problems plagued the federal website upon its launch.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/27/obamacare-enrollment_n_5044003.html

     

    This is good and all but wasn't there about 40+ million without any coverage? At least that's the number that was being thrown around by certain people over and over. It's in countless articles that pop up in google. Where did the other 34+ million go??? Shouldn't there be a heck of a lot more than 6 million signed up?

     

     

     
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    I haven't done any research to confirm or debunk but some guy on WRKO said that about the same number of people have both gained and lost insurance. That's pretty damning if true.

     

     
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    I haven't done any research to confirm or debunk but some guy on WRKO said that about the same number of people have both gained and lost insurance. That's pretty damning if true.

     

     



    SB,

     

    I did do some research and found that it looks like it is a wash.

    That is about the same number of people have gained insurance as have lost insurance.

    See article below. The bottom line is right below to make it easier on you.

     

    "First, most of the people who lost their insurance have seen those policies extended to them through an administrative fix, or they received new coverage through their previous insurer or they bought a new plan.

    Second, he ignores the millions of people who bought coverage off the exchange, those who gained coverage through Medicaid and the under-26 crowd able to remain on their parents' insurance.

    We don't yet know how many new Americans will ultimately gain coverage. But every indicator right now suggests it will be a net gain. We rate Boehner's statement False."

     

     

    The Truth-O-Meter Says: BoehnerThe United States has seen "a net loss of people with health insurance" because of Obamacare.

    John Boehner on Thursday, March 13th, 2014 in a press conference

      John Boehner says more people are uninsured since Obamacare took effect FalseShare this story:  

    House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, discusses the Affordable Care Act at his weekly press conference on March 13, 2014

    For a law that will be judged, in part, by how many uninsured Americans gain coverage, it’s a pretty bold statement when the most powerful Republican in Washington claims the Affordable Care Act is leading to more people without coverage.

    In a press conference on March 13, 2014,House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, claimed "there are less people today with health insurance than there were before this law went into effect."

    A reporter later asked him if he really meant that. Boehner doubled down.

    "I believe that to be the case," Boehner said. "When you look at the 6 million Americans who've lost their policies, and (government officials) claim 4.2 million who've signed up — I don't know how many have actually paid for it — that would indicate to me a net loss of people with health insurance. And I actually do believe that to be the case."

    There are a lot of holes in the administration’s data for new signups. Further clouding the stats are fluctuations in the existing insurance market caused when insurance companies canceled plans that didn’t meet Obamacare’s coverage standards.

    But to say that has resulted in a net loss is a stretch.

    The Washington Post Fact Checker beat us to the punch on this. He gave Boehner’s comment Four Pinocchios, his worst rating.

    We have looked at similar claims before. We mostly heard it late last year, when several million Americans received notices from their insurance provider that their current policies would no longer be offered.

    Since it came from Boehner, though, we decided it was worth looking into again.

    Polls and projections

    We took the issue first to Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck. He offered this explanation: "The speaker explained the statement at the presser: More people have had plans canceled than signed up, especially when considering how inflated the enrollment numbers appear to be."

    But that's not what Boehner said. He twice claimed that the number of people with insurance overall is down since the health care law went into effect, a considerably more audacious statement.

    While there isn't a final tally that looks at those numbers yet, Boehner's assertion goes against a recent Gallup poll, which said the number of uninsured Americans declined from 17.1 percent at the end of last year to 15.9 percent in the first quarter of 2014, the lowest level since 2008. Also, the Congressional Budget Office, the nonpartisan policy scorekeeper, estimates over time that the percentage of insured Americans will rise as a result of the health care law.

    Boehner claimed the math, though, is simple. According to him, there were 6 million people told their policies were canceled because they didn't meet the health law's minimum benefits and coverage. And the administration announced that through February, 4.2 million had purchased insurance through the state and federal marketplaces. (A few days after Boehner spoke, the administration announced enrollment through the marketplace surpassed 5 million.)

    By that logic, 1.8 million people must have lost insurance.

    But Boehner misses a lot of important factors. We'll go through them one by one.

    What happened to canceled plans

    There were many Americans notified that their insurance plans were canceled because they did not meet Obamacare's standards of coverage, despite promises that wouldn't happen. Boehner puts this at 6 million. It's a hard figure to pin down exactly.

    Through an extensive reporting project, the Associated Press found at least 4.7 million Americans received notices about canceled policies; it could be higher.

    Some of those policies, about half, were restored when Obama administratively allowed canceled plans to continue for another year and later through 2016.

    Many others were moved to new plans, either through their insurance company or by purchasing a new policy on the marketplaces set up for Obamacare. The administration estimated that of the people with canceled plans, just 500,000 were left without coverage, andcatastrophic coverage was extended to those individuals.

    That's not to say this wasn't a difficult ordeal for people who lost their plans, especially if they thought the law would allow them to keep their coverage. But most of them were able to find new plans, meaning Boehner's 6 million uninsured people basically vanishes.

    We could probably stop there, but let's dissect the rest of the numbers, since this is a debate that won't subside any time soon.

    Marketplace signups

    Boehner also casts doubt that the administration's figures for new insurance purchases is inflated, which they put at 4.2 million (now 5 million).

    He does have a point there.

    First, many of the people who lost coverage due to Obamacare were shifted to the marketplace to buy coverage. Just as those individuals shouldn't be included in Boehner's figure of people without insurance, they also don't count as a net gain, since they previously had insurance.

    It's ultimately difficult to tell how many people who bought insurance didn’t have coverage last year. A survey by McKinsey & Company found that 27 percent of the people who reported buying a new policy in February for 2014 were previously uninsured.

    It's equally difficult to know how many of the people who bought plans actually paid their premiums. The New York Times reported that 20 percent of people buying insurance on the exchanges never made their first payment. The McKinsey & Company survey reported similar results for the previously uninsured.

    So Boehner's skepticism toward that 4.2 million figure is not misguided. But even if it includes a lot of people who didn't pay their premiums or people who were previously insured, there were some previously uninsured people who found and paid for policies. That alone makes it a net gain.

    It also doesn't include the people who are buying insurance directly from insurance companies or through other Obamacare approved third-party sites. In Washington state, for example, 184,000 of the 300,000 projected new enrollees bought coverage outside the marketplace.

    Medicaid

    Boehner also completely ignores individuals who gained coverage through the expansion of Medicaid, the federal-state health care program.

    The administration says 4.4 million people were deemed eligible for Medicaid when signing up for coverage through the marketplace.

    That doesn't count all of the people who signed up through local state offices, not through an exchange. But it also includes those who were assessed as eligible but didn’t complete the sign up. There could be duplication in the process as well.

    But whatever the actual number is, it still points toward a net gain in insured Americans.

    Kids up to 26

    One of the earliest provisions of the law to take affect allowed children to stay on their parents' insurance until age 26.

    The administration has estimated 3.1 million young adults took advantage of this change. TheWashington Post Fact Checker noted the number hasn't been updated for a number of years and questioned whether it was that high.

    Not all of those children were previously uninsured. And presumably some of those initial sign ups could have aged out of their parents insurance by now. It's possible many were included among the previously insured who transitioned to the marketplace.

    But like the Medicaid number, for the purpose of this check the actual number isn't as significant as knowing there are a lot of young adults that gained insurance through this provision.

    Our ruling

    Boehner said the Affordable Care Act so far has caused "a net loss of people with health insurance." Boehner's logic is based on reports that about 5 million had their insurance policies canceled while 4.2 million signed up for policies on the state and federal marketplaces. It's bad math for two reasons.

    First, most of the people who lost their insurance have seen those policies extended to them through an administrative fix, or they received new coverage through their previous insurer or they bought a new plan.

    Second, he ignores the millions of people who bought coverage off the exchange, those who gained coverage through Medicaid and the under-26 crowd able to remain on their parents' insurance.

    We don't yet know how many new Americans will ultimately gain coverage. But every indicator right now suggests it will be a net gain. We rate Boehner's statement False.

      ADVERTISEMENT     About this statement:

    Published: Tuesday, March 18th, 2014 at 12:11 p.m.

    Subjects: Health CareMedicaidPublic Health

    Sources:

    House Speaker John Boehner weekly press conference, March 13, 2014

    Email interview with Brendan Buck, spokesman for Boehner, March 14-17, 2014

    Congressional Budget Office, "Insurance Coverage Provisions of the Affordable Care Act — CBO’s February 2014 Baseline," accessed March 17, 2014

    Gallup, "U.S. uninsured rate continues to fall," March 10, 2014

    Washington State Office of the Insurance Commissioner, "Individual health market projected to top 300,000 by March 31", Feb. 13, 2014

    ABC News, "White House Allows Mandate Exemption Over Canceled Plans," Dec. 20, 2013

    McKinsey & Company, "Individual market enrollment: Updated view," March 2014

    Washington Post Fact Checker, "Boehner’s claim that Obamacare has resulted in a ‘net loss’ of people with health insurance," March 17, 2014

    U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, "Marketplace Enrollment Hits 5 Million Milestone," March 17, 2014

    U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, "New health care law helps more than 3 million young adults get and keep health coverage," June 19, 2012

    The Associated Press, "Policy notifications and current status, by state," Dec. 26, 2013

    The Associated Press, "2-year extension offered for current health plans," March 5, 2014

    Healthcare.gov, "Can children stay on a parent’s plan until age 26?" accessed March 17, 2014

     

     

    Written by: Steve Contorno
    Researched by: Steve Contorno
    Edited by: Angie Drobnic Holan

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    Well, this seems to be a forest/trees issue.  More people initially lost coverage due to Obamacare.  That's a fact.  What Obama did is somehow say that particular regulation didn't matter, so, insurance companies put some of those people back on, about half it appears.  without that slight of hand, which is probably illegal, the Speaker is correct.  When we get past these "bad apple" plans and into other segments, such as small business plans, the number of people loosing their coverage and being forced into the exchanges will absolutely explode.

    What really caught my eye is that 4.4 million of the enrollees are Medicaid.  That's not a financial model that is revenue neutral as Obama claimed it would be.  That's a model that shifts the expense of these plans on the backs of the rest of us.

    Besides, why not just change the parameters On Medicaid if that's the goal?  Why do we need this multi-trillion dollar lead balloon to accomplish this?

     
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    What really caught my eye is that 4.4 million of the enrollees are Medicaid.  That's not a financial model that is revenue neutral as Obama claimed it would be.  That's a model that shifts the expense of these plans on the backs of the rest of us.

     

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    Walmart thanks you.

     
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    Ouch !

     

     
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    Ouch !

     

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    Ouch?  I have no idea what "walmart thanks you" means.  Is there a point in there?

    The fact is that Obama has had to delay or change the law with executive orders and simply ignoring the law 39 or so times.  this is not the law that was passed.

    Again, if not for Obama rolling back the cancellation of "bad apple" insurance plans, this thing is dead law walking. 

    Andie may be right on the current tally, but all it does is show that, 4 years, 39 dubious changes, tons of tax dollars on advertising, and the best the Obama administration can pull off at this point is a draw:  as many people have lost insurance as have gained.

    Wait until after the elections.  That formula is going to change dramatically towards tens of millions loosing their insurance and being put into the exhanges where they can buy "bad government" health plans.

     
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    Ouch !

     

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    Ouch?  I have no idea what "walmart thanks you" means.  Is there a point in there?

    The fact is that Obama has had to delay or change the law with executive orders and simply ignoring the law 39 or so times.  this is not the law that was passed.

    Again, if not for Obama rolling back the cancellation of "bad apple" insurance plans, this thing is dead law walking. 

    Andie may be right on the current tally, but all it does is show that, 4 years, 39 dubious changes, tons of tax dollars on advertising, and the best the Obama administration can pull off at this point is a draw:  as many people have lost insurance as have gained.

    Wait until after the elections.  That formula is going to change dramatically towards tens of millions loosing their insurance and being put into the exhanges where they can buy "bad government" health plans.

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    They are whining about Wal Mart because they think Wal Mart doesn't pay their brain-addled employees enough so they have to resort to various welfare plans to support themselves. 

    Username thinks anyone that can fog a mirror deserves a "living wage" even if their labor isn't worth that to an employer.  Wal Mart does not have to pay a "living wage" because they can direct their employees to government programs instead. 

    Rubbish.

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    Ah...although I still have no idea what that has to do with ronreganfan and why WalMart would thank him. 

     
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    Ouch !

     

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    Ouch?  I have no idea what "walmart thanks you" means.  Is there a point in there?

    The fact is that Obama has had to delay or change the law with executive orders and simply ignoring the law 39 or so times.  this is not the law that was passed.

    Again, if not for Obama rolling back the cancellation of "bad apple" insurance plans, this thing is dead law walking. 

    Andie may be right on the current tally, but all it does is show that, 4 years, 39 dubious changes, tons of tax dollars on advertising, and the best the Obama administration can pull off at this point is a draw:  as many people have lost insurance as have gained.

    Wait until after the elections.  That formula is going to change dramatically towards tens of millions loosing their insurance and being put into the exhanges where they can buy "bad government" health plans.

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    They are whining about Wal Mart because they think Wal Mart doesn't pay their brain-addled employees enough so they have to resort to various welfare plans to support themselves. 

    Username thinks anyone that can fog a mirror deserves a "living wage" even if their labor isn't worth that to an employer.  Wal Mart does not have to pay a "living wage" because they can direct their employees to government programs instead. 

    Rubbish.

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    Generalize much?  Such hatred for your fellow citizens.  These people are giving up the most important thing there is....time out of their lives.

    And its not a theory....its happenning on a huge scale.  Walmart just happens to big the largest of such companies pushing their responsibilty to the govenment.

    And nitwits like you can't connect the dots why we all end up paying for it.

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    WalMart's "responsibility"? Left wing idiocy. Left wing unions want to get their greedy paws on employee's salaries as union dues, so they push this nonsense.  

    Have to make things simple for progressives.


    Walmart is responsible to provide quality products at good prices, so they will attract customers and make a profit. Without profits, a business is not self sustaining, and no one at Walmart will have a job. 
    WalMart is responsible for complying with relevant laws.

    WalMart is not a social welfare agency, they are not responsible for their employee's wealth, their economic  status, their employee's health, their political views, religious views, or their sex life.

    Liberals always whine about the influence of big corporations...but now they actually want Big Corporations to expand their role , and fulfill the role they love for Big Government...They want Walmart to be the "Nanny State" to their employees...

     
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    Re: Obamacare Enrollment Reaches 6 Million

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    WASHINGTON -- The number of people who have chosen a health care plan through a state or federal exchange topped 6 million on Thursday, putting the administration ahead of revised projections with several days before the enrollment deadline.

    The number, which was announced by President Barack Obama during a conference call on Thursday, reflects a major uptick in interest in health care coverage ahead of the deadline. The administration has revised that end date a bit so that people in the queue by March 31 have time to complete their application process should they run into issues.

    Original projections had approximately 7 million people signing up for private plans through the state and federal Obamacare exchanges during the six-month enrollment period. That number was revised significantly downward after major technical problems plagued the federal website upon its launch.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/27/obamacare-enrollment_n_5044003.html

     

    This is good and all but wasn't there about 40+ million without any coverage? At least that's the number that was being thrown around by certain people over and over. It's in countless articles that pop up in google. Where did the other 34+ million go??? Shouldn't there be a heck of a lot more than 6 million signed up?

     

     

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    There are people, millions of them in fact, who are making the choice to remain uninsured and projections for enrollment do control for that inevitability with the number of intentionally uninsured people slowly diminishing over the years.  

    But when you factor in people who can stay on their parents plans until 26, the expansion of medicare, and the ACA fed and state enrollments huge numbers of people chose to come in from the wilderness to get insurance.  

     
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    WASHINGTON -- The number of people who have chosen a health care plan through a state or federal exchange topped 6 million on Thursday, putting the administration ahead of revised projections with several days before the enrollment deadline.

    The number, which was announced by President Barack Obama during a conference call on Thursday, reflects a major uptick in interest in health care coverage ahead of the deadline. The administration has revised that end date a bit so that people in the queue by March 31 have time to complete their application process should they run into issues.

    Original projections had approximately 7 million people signing up for private plans through the state and federal Obamacare exchanges during the six-month enrollment period. That number was revised significantly downward after major technical problems plagued the federal website upon its launch.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/27/obamacare-enrollment_n_5044003.html

     

    This is good and all but wasn't there about 40+ million without any coverage? At least that's the number that was being thrown around by certain people over and over. It's in countless articles that pop up in google. Where did the other 34+ million go??? Shouldn't there be a heck of a lot more than 6 million signed up?

     

     



    There are people, millions of them in fact, who are making the choice to remain uninsured and projections for enrollment do control for that inevitability with the number of intentionally uninsured people slowly diminishing over the years.  

    But when you factor in people who can stay on their parents plans until 26, the expansion of medicare, and the ACA fed and state enrollments huge numbers of people chose to come in from the wilderness to get insurance.  

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    "Come in from the wilderness"? What are you talking about?

    It is just a shell game.

    Moving indigents from state programs to federal programs.

    What is the big difference,  if millions who were uninsured and had no intention of paying for any health care they needed, now move from state welfare program recipients,  to ObamaCare enrollees who are given Obamacare "subsidies"?

    Same bottom line : taxpayers take care of those who are indigent and/or cant or wont pay.

    No difference.....just a federal takeover.

    Just another redistribution of wealth from those who are self reliant, to those who aren't....

    How many of the 6 million who have "applied" have actually sent in a payment?

    The Administration knows but wont tell....

     

     
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    The 6 million figure doesn’t represent the full story on Obamacare. Administration officials stress the estimates that an additional 3 million people under 26 years old have been able to stay on their parents’ insurances, and millions more who’ve been covered under Medicaid expansions.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/obamacare-enrollment-projections-105118.html#ixzz2xH2hsKWw      

     

    WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The percentage of Americans without health insurance continues to fall, measuring 15.9% so far in 2014 compared with 17.1% in the fourth quarter of 2013.   With only a few weeks remaining in the first quarter, the uninsured rate is on track to be the lowest quarterly level that Gallup and Healthways have measured since 2008.

    The uninsured rate has been declining since the fourth quarter of 2013, after hitting an all-time high of 18.0% in the third quarter. The uninsured rate for the first quarter of 2014 so far includes a 16.2% reading for January and 15.6% for February.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/167798/uninsured-rate-continues-fall.aspx?ref=more

     


    Expanding Medicaid lowers costs for everyone:

    Floridians pay $600 million each year in special property taxes for hospitals to mostly cover uninsured care. The state gives nearly $1 billion every year to hospitals through low-income pools. The federal government gives nearly $1 billion every year to safety net hospitals in Florida. Local governments spend millions more.

    Even with all that tax money, the Center for American Progress estimates that $1,100 of annual premiums for an insured family in Florida goes to cover costs of uninsured hospital care—a total of more than $2.3 billion per year. To ensure that lowering private insurance costs for the uninsured is passed on to consumers, the Affordable Care Act also requires insurance companies to spend at least 80 percent of premiums on actual care of patients. Already this year, this has resulted in an estimated $123 million in rebates to 1.2 million Floridians. Of course, Gov. Rick Scott also opposed those rebates as well—showing that he puts profits over patients.

    So currently, uninsured care costs Floridians at least $5 billion per year—not including what hospitals just write off. Providing coverage to 1.3 million working poor in Florida will cost $2.2 billion. In other words, expanding Medicaid to Florida's working poor will not cause taxes to increase. Rather, it will cut other tax costs while also lowering the price of insurance.

    http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/is-medicaid-expansion-good-for-the-states/giving-healthcare-to-the-poor-lowers-health-costs-for-everyone

     

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    "Center for American Progress", has zero credibility  ....a left wing Obama rumpswabber, kinda like angryman himself.

    It is a big shell game...claims of cost savings from ObamaCare are about as credible as  "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor"..

    ObamaCare is one big lie after another.

     

     
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    The 6 million figure doesn’t represent the full story on Obamacare. Administration officials stress the estimates that an additional 3 million people under 26 years old have been able to stay on their parents’ insurances, and millions more who’ve been covered under Medicaid expansions.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/obamacare-enrollment-projections-105118.html#ixzz2xH2hsKWw      

     

    WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The percentage of Americans without health insurance continues to fall, measuring 15.9% so far in 2014 compared with 17.1% in the fourth quarter of 2013.   With only a few weeks remaining in the first quarter, the uninsured rate is on track to be the lowest quarterly level that Gallup and Healthways have measured since 2008.

    The uninsured rate has been declining since the fourth quarter of 2013, after hitting an all-time high of 18.0% in the third quarter. The uninsured rate for the first quarter of 2014 so far includes a 16.2% reading for January and 15.6% for February.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/167798/uninsured-rate-continues-fall.aspx?ref=more

     


    Expanding Medicaid lowers costs for everyone:

    Floridians pay $600 million each year in special property taxes for hospitals to mostly cover uninsured care. The state gives nearly $1 billion every year to hospitals through low-income pools. The federal government gives nearly $1 billion every year to safety net hospitals in Florida. Local governments spend millions more.

    Even with all that tax money, the Center for American Progress estimates that $1,100 of annual premiums for an insured family in Florida goes to cover costs of uninsured hospital care—a total of more than $2.3 billion per year. To ensure that lowering private insurance costs for the uninsured is passed on to consumers, the Affordable Care Act also requires insurance companies to spend at least 80 percent of premiums on actual care of patients. Already this year, this has resulted in an estimated $123 million in rebates to 1.2 million Floridians. Of course, Gov. Rick Scott also opposed those rebates as well—showing that he puts profits over patients.

    So currently, uninsured care costs Floridians at least $5 billion per year—not including what hospitals just write off. Providing coverage to 1.3 million working poor in Florida will cost $2.2 billion. In other words, expanding Medicaid to Florida's working poor will not cause taxes to increase. Rather, it will cut other tax costs while also lowering the price of insurance.

    http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/is-medicaid-expansion-good-for-the-states/giving-healthcare-to-the-poor-lowers-health-costs-for-everyone

     

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    The number or percentage of people with insurance aren't important metrics for "conservatives".  The only metric that matters is the number of people who believe the law is a failure. 

     
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