Obamacare website cost $634 MILLION DOLLARS

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    Obamacare website cost $634 MILLION DOLLARS

    ...that was the funniest thing I learned today...that the Obamacare website cost over $634 MILLION dollars.....about ten times what very successful, more widely used websites in the evil private sector cost......and the best part.....wait for it........IT DOESN'T WORK.

    Government run ANYTHING at it's best.  Gee who would have thunk that was possible?? 

     

     
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    Re: Obamacare website cost $634 MILLION DOLLARS

    In response to macnh1's comment:

    ...that was the funniest thing I learned today...that the Obamacare website cost over $634 MILLION dollars.....about ten times what very successful, more widely used websites in the evil private sector cost......and the best part.....wait for it........IT DOESN'T WORK.

    Government run ANYTHING at it's best.  Gee who would have thunk that was possible?? 

     



    ten times?  Try a thousand times.

     
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    though I claim to be entertained...I'm really angry...I work way too hard and pay way too much in taxes to see my money thrown away.....

     
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    Re: Obamacare website cost $634 MILLION DOLLARS

    And the leftwing loonies still say Obamcare is going to save money???

    I wonder what an MRI is going to cost once we are through "saving money" like this?

    $20,000?

     
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    Re: Obamacare website cost $634 MILLION DOLLARS


    “Beginning October 1st, Americans will be able to log on and comparison shop an array of private health insurance plans, side-by-side — just like you go online and compare the best deal on cars or the best deal on computers.” (President Obama, Remarks On Presenting New Management Agenda ,” Washington, D.C., 7/8/13)...Except, Mr President, this is Government we are talking about!!!

    The exact cost to build Healthcare.gov, according to U.S. government records, appears to have been $634,320,919, which we paid to a company you probably never heard of: CGI Federal.  The company originally won the contract back in 2011, but at that time, the cost was expected to run “up to” $93.7 million – still a chunk of change, but nothing near where it ended up. (Odds of crony connections between "CGI Federal" and the Obama Administration...pretty good)


    Is it OK to ask, still: THIS is who you want running your healthcare????

    Read more: http://www.digitaltrends.com/opinion/obamacare-healthcare-gov-website-cost/#ixzz2hK0X0JXR

     

     
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    Re: Obamacare website cost $634 MILLION DOLLARS

    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

    According to the source here's some of the contracts they include in the ACA website totals:

     

    Medicare Advantage and Part D System Maintenance  $20,559,829

    MEDIC - PART D - ONE PI  $42,985,485.00

    MANAGED CARE ENCOUNTER DATE RISK ADJUSTMENT PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND COORDINATION  $3,438,233.2

     

     



    The source of this $600m figure is just another echo chamber.  Wingnuts are so gullible.

     
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    Re: Obamacare website cost $634 MILLION DOLLARS

    In response to UserName9's comment:

    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

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    According to the source here's some of the contracts they include in the ACA website totals:

     

    Medicare Advantage and Part D System Maintenance  $20,559,829

    MEDIC - PART D - ONE PI  $42,985,485.00

    MANAGED CARE ENCOUNTER DATE RISK ADJUSTMENT PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND COORDINATION  $3,438,233.2

     

     

     



    The source of this $600m figure is just another echo chamber.  Wingnuts are so gullible.

     

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    That source appears to be 'US Govt Records'. The link is in the story.

     
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    Obamacare website cost more than FACEBOOK, TWITTER, LINKEDIN, INSTAGRAM...

     

    'How can we tax people for not buying a product from a website that doesn't work?'

    Major insurers, Dem allies repeatedly warned Obama admin...

    REPORT: WH knew site might not be ready...

    POLL: Just 1 in 10 report success...

    DNC head says site designed for 50,000 max...

     

    Once you get in, you can't get out...

     

    Crazzzzzzzy code...

     

    'It looks like nobody tested it'...

     

    WASHPOST: Not code, but 'outdated, costly, buggy technology'...

     

    Hawaii forced to relaunch after zero sign-ups...

     

    ... Will add 2% fee on all plans

     

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    Think for yourself, question authority.

     
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    Re: Obamacare website cost $634 MILLION DOLLARS

    In response to FortySixAndTwo's comment:

    In response to UserName9's comment:

     

    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

     

     

    According to the source here's some of the contracts they include in the ACA website totals:

     

    Medicare Advantage and Part D System Maintenance  $20,559,829

    MEDIC - PART D - ONE PI  $42,985,485.00

    MANAGED CARE ENCOUNTER DATE RISK ADJUSTMENT PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND COORDINATION  $3,438,233.2

     

     

     

     



    The source of this $600m figure is just another echo chamber.  Wingnuts are so gullible.

     

     



    That source appears to be 'US Govt Records'. The link is in the story.

     



    And did you follow the link?  Nowhere does it say that $600m went to ObamaCare.  That amount went to the vendor, and as ACC pointed out, the money includes other projects such as medicare projects.

    No reputable news source (including Fox) is reporting this $600m Obamacare figure.  Digitaltrends is flat out lying.

     

     
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    Re: Obamacare website cost $634 MILLION DOLLARS

    In response to UserName9's comment:

    In response to FortySixAndTwo's comment:

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    In response to UserName9's comment:

     

    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

     

     

    According to the source here's some of the contracts they include in the ACA website totals:

     

    Medicare Advantage and Part D System Maintenance  $20,559,829

    MEDIC - PART D - ONE PI  $42,985,485.00

    MANAGED CARE ENCOUNTER DATE RISK ADJUSTMENT PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND COORDINATION  $3,438,233.2

     

     

     

     



    The source of this $600m figure is just another echo chamber.  Wingnuts are so gullible.

     

     



    That source appears to be 'US Govt Records'. The link is in the story.

     

     



    And did you follow the link?  Nowhere does it say that $600m went to ObamaCare.  That amount went to the vendor, and as ACC pointed out, the money includes other projects such as medicare projects.

     

    No reputable news source (including Fox) is reporting this $600m Obamacare figure.  Digitaltrends is flat out lying.

     

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    I realize it includes $65M for a few other projects....that still leaves $569M. 

     
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    Re: Obamacare website cost $634 MILLION DOLLARS

    Try to find a religious sect more impervious to reality than Government-worshipping progressives' worship of the infallibility of the Nanny State!

    How about Christian snake handlers, who believe the following: a poisonous snakebite will not harm them as long as they are anointed by God's power?

    Despite this: In 2012, a snake-handling Pentecostal preacher who witnessed his father die in a similar fashion, passed away Sunday after he was bitten by a poisonous snake....

    Nope! , I still think brain dead liberals have more Faith in the God of Government's efficiency than Christian snake handlers have in the Bible... 

     
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    Re: Obamacare website cost $634 MILLION DOLLARS

    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

    That $634 million for the exchange is the cost over the complete lifecycle of the project which is 10yrs or about $63 mil/yr.

    So let's look at the comparison to:

    Facebook  6yrs/$600 million = $100mil/yr

    Twitter      5yrs/$360 million =  $72/mil

     

    CMS CCIIO Healthcare Insurance Exchange IT Investment

    FY2013 (CY) Spending = $63.68 M

    Time frame of Investment  = 2011 - 2020

    This Exhibit 300 represents a summary of the current IT investments undertaken by HHS and Treasury to implement the provisions of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA). It includes the CMS Center for Consumer Information and Insurance Oversight (CCIIO) Healthcare Insurance Exchange (HIX) investment and a set of major and non-major IT Investments managed by Treasury and IRS that provide support for ACA. HIX provides a platform for organizing the health insurance marketplace to help consumers and small businesses shop for coverage in a way that permits easy comparison of available plan options based on price, benefits and services, and quality.

    https://www.itdashboard.gov/investment?buscid=961




    Uh oh.

     

    Prepare for lots of loud noises made in an attempt to cover up the initial offense... 

     
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    Re: Obamacare website cost $634 MILLION DOLLARS

    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

    According to the source here's some of the contracts they include in the ACA website totals:

     

    Medicare Advantage and Part D System Maintenance  $20,559,829

    MEDIC - PART D - ONE PI  $42,985,485.00

    MANAGED CARE ENCOUNTER DATE RISK ADJUSTMENT PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND COORDINATION  $3,438,233.2

     

     



    All of them, an order or two of magnitude beyond what they should cost.

     
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    Re: Obamacare website cost $634 MILLION DOLLARS

    In response to NowWhatDoYouWant's comment:

    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

    [QUOTE]

     

    That $634 million for the exchange is the cost over the complete lifecycle of the project which is 10yrs or about $63 mil/yr.

    So let's look at the comparison to:

    Facebook  6yrs/$600 million = $100mil/yr

    Twitter      5yrs/$360 million =  $72/mil

     

    CMS CCIIO Healthcare Insurance Exchange IT Investment

    FY2013 (CY) Spending = $63.68 M

    Time frame of Investment  = 2011 - 2020

    This Exhibit 300 represents a summary of the current IT investments undertaken by HHS and Treasury to implement the provisions of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA). It includes the CMS Center for Consumer Information and Insurance Oversight (CCIIO) Healthcare Insurance Exchange (HIX) investment and a set of major and non-major IT Investments managed by Treasury and IRS that provide support for ACA. HIX provides a platform for organizing the health insurance marketplace to help consumers and small businesses shop for coverage in a way that permits easy comparison of available plan options based on price, benefits and services, and quality.

    https://www.itdashboard.gov/investment?buscid=961

     




     

    Uh oh.

     

    Prepare for lots of loud noises made in an attempt to cover up the initial offense... 

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    Hate to burst your collective and collectivist bubbles, but reporting out the techical expenditures by these big and successful companies is an apples and oranges comparison.

    A better comparison might be to get the number a bank, like CitiBank, spent to do online banking.  I would suspect the cost to develop the website, inclding linking to the data, to be in the 1-2 mil range.

     
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    Re: Obamacare website cost $634 MILLION DOLLARS

    And we've got goalpost shift #1. Nice job skeeter.

     
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    Re: Obamacare website cost $634 MILLION DOLLARS

    I think these sites that are running with the 634 million dollar price tag are guilty of gross oversimplification.  The website is more than just the pages that load at the url.  There is the entire backend infrastructure which all costs money and had to be built from scratch.  Applicable costs would include website basic design, database programming, servers, licensing for third party software that runs on the servers (operating systems, security, database, etc), maintenance for all software and hardware, networking equipment, storage equipment, datacenter costs, fees paid to prime and subcontractors (presuming a cost plus model), etc.  And given the sensitivity of the information being handled and processed the requirements to get this off the ground are far more stringent than say Facebook, Amazon, or other social media or retail online storefronts.  Without understanding the breakdown of monies spent the big figure is misleading and not necessarily indicative of some financial boondoggle.  

     

     
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    Re: Obamacare website cost $634 MILLION DOLLARS

    In response to bigdog2's comment:

    Democrats are as dumb as dumb gets.



    Not as dumb as non-tech people trying to assess technology they don't understand from high horses.

     

     
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    Re: Obamacare website cost $634 MILLION DOLLARS

    In response to DamainAllen's comment:

    I think these sites that are running with the 634 million dollar price tag are guilty of gross oversimplification.  The website is more than just the pages that load at the url.  There is the entire backend infrastructure which all costs money and had to be built from scratch.  Applicable costs would include website basic design, database programming, servers, licensing for third party software that runs on the servers (operating systems, security, database, etc), maintenance for all software and hardware, networking equipment, storage equipment, datacenter costs, fees paid to prime and subcontractors (presuming a cost plus model), etc.  And given the sensitivity of the information being handled and processed the requirements to get this off the ground are far more stringent than say Facebook, Amazon, or other social media or retail online storefronts.  Without understanding the breakdown of monies spent the big figure is misleading and not necessarily indicative of some financial boondoggle.  

     



    Thank you.

    Someone who knows what he's talking about....

     

     
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    Re: Obamacare website cost $634 MILLION DOLLARS

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

    A better comparison might be to get the number a bank, like CitiBank, spent to do online banking.  I would suspect the cost to develop the website, inclding linking to the data, to be in the 1-2 mil range.



    That would be a much worse comparison with a ridiculously absurd idea of an estimate.

    You don't know diddly.

     

     
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    .......if they paid $1 million or $1 billion, the fact remains, they wasted our money because it's not working and now we are paying more PLUS overtime to fix it....sounds like a union job to me!!!!!

     
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