Obama's Gun Speech

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    Yesterday, Obama made a speech about the gun control bill not passing.  I heard it on the radio, so I couldn't measue facial expressions. But, based on what I heard on the radio, my observation is that he was behaving like a spoiled child.  to the extent he has passion for hte issue, it was lost in his childish rage.  Why doesn't he have such rage for things like Bengazi?

     
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    Yesterday, Obama made a speech about the gun control bill not passing.  I heard it on the radio, so I couldn't measue facial expressions. But, based on what I heard on the radio, my observation is that he was behaving like a spoiled child.  to the extent he has passion for hte issue, it was lost in his childish rage.  Why doesn't he have such rage for things like Bengazi?



    He blames it on mean wicked republicans. It failed due to:

    1.) It did not address the root cause of the Newtown massacre (if, it would have been in place Newtown still would have happened) so, it was just politics.

    2.) They knew how many votes they had and that it wouldnt pass; if, it would have seemed closer more conservative dems would have voted no!

    smoke and mirrors BS

     
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    Glad to see that he's focusing like a laser on the economy. Oh wait...

     

     
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    The President is understandably upset with what happened yesterday in the Senate.  They are not representing the will of the people, they are representing monied interests. 

    Nearly 80% of gun owners favor background checks on private gun sales.  More than half of the Senate voted yes to this.

    If less than half of all senators are able to kill this (or any other piece of legislation), it seems to me that the real finger of shame should be pointed at Harry Reid and Senate Democrats who refused to eliminate the shameful filibuster rules when they had the chance.  He's gotta go.

     

     
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    Why doesn't he have such rage for things like Bengazi?



    Clearly, he has priorities.

     

    Not surprised you would confuse passion and rage, though.

     

     

     

     

     
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    The President is understandably upset with what happened yesterday in the Senate.  They are not representing the will of the people, they are representing monied interests. 

    Nearly 80% of gun owners favor background checks on private gun sales.  More than half of the Senate voted yes to this.

    If less than half of all senators are able to kill this (or any other piece of legislation), it seems to me that the real finger of shame should be pointed at Harry Reid and Senate Democrats who refused to eliminate the shameful filibuster rules when they had the chance.  He's gotta go.

     

     



    I do not know the details of this law but we already do background checks. Maybe this extends to it gun shows or something? 

     

    Whatever.

    Sen. Cruz from TX pointed out that convicted felons and parolees attempted 40,000 times to obtain a gun illegally in 2012. The federal government chose to prosecute only 48 of them.

    What good is another law they won't enforce?

    Oh, that's right, you guys don't want the problem solved then you don't have the issue.


    I would encourage you to read this excellent news piece about what is really going on out there.  Nobody is checking anything on these online gun sale sites where literally thousands of guns are for sale with no questions asked.  You would have to be a nuts to not want to shut this type of operation down.

     

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/17/us/seeking-gun-or-selling-one-web-is-a-land-of-few-rules.html?pagewanted=all#commentsContainer

     
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    Why doesn't he have such rage for things like Bengazi?

     



    Clearly, he has priorities.

     

     

    Not surprised you would confuse passion and rage, though.

     

     

     

     



    Right. What he showed yesterday is clearly rage. Rage that people dared to go against his will.  

    bengazi is an example of passion. oh, wait: that's an example of priorities. The priority THAT day was hanging out with Jay-z and Beyonce in Vegas.  Bengazi could wait.

    i'm not sure he's shown passion on anything.

     

     
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    http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/04/17/how-the-gun-lobby-has-already-blocked-bostons-bombing-investigators/

     
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    Yes, lets blame republicans for the cloture rule.  Hell, it was 1919.  Bush's fault clearly.

    And wait, which party was the last to change the rule in their favor, AND get rid of the "present and voting", thing, rather than a percentage, and make it a flat out 60, even if there are only 59 guys in the room?

    Ah, DEMOCRATS.

    Mordez-moi

     

     



    Greg it isn't my fault that today's GOP is soft on crime !

     
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    I would encourage you to read this excellent news piece about what is really going on out there.  Nobody is checking anything on these online gun sale sites where literally thousands of guns are for sale with no questions asked.  You would have to be a nuts to not want to shut this type of operation down.



    That doesnt change the FACT that out of 40,000 people found applying for guns illegally only 48 were prosecuted.

    Why make another law if, we dont or cant enforce the ones we have????

     
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    Right. What he showed yesterday is clearly rage. Rage that people dared to go against his will.  

    bengazi is an example of passion. oh, wait: that's an example of priorities. The priority THAT day was hanging out with Jay-z and Beyonce in Vegas.  Bengazi could wait.

    i'm not sure he's shown passion on anything. 



    I wish he had the same passion/rage for the bombers as he did for the republicans vote!

     
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    seeing what is going on at the moment in boston and cambridge, i bet obama has a few more supporters. at least the support from the family and friends of the fallen mit and injured t police officers

     
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    seeing what is going on at the moment in boston and cambridge, i bet obama has a few more supporters. at least the support from the family and friends of the fallen mit and injured t police officers



    I hope so. Unity is important right now.

     
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    Can't even get a ban on assault weapons or high-speed ammo clips.  Wow.

     
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    Here's one guy's idea of "unity":

     

    On Friday morning, Arkansas State Rep. Nate Bell (R) tweeted that “liberal” Boston residents likely wished for assault rifles and high-capacity magazines, as the manhunt for Boston Marathon bombing suspects continued.

    Bell, a second-term legislator and National Rifle Association life member, has previously supported allowing guns in churches as “removing a state mandated restriction on religious freedom.”

    His tweet said:

    I wonder how many Boston liberals spent the night cowering in their homes wishing they had an AR-15 with a hi-capacity magazine? #2A

    — Nate Bell (@NateBell4AR) April 19, 2013

     

    Bell has also backed legislation to make concealed carry licenses cheaper and to prevent the governor from regulating firearms even in state emergencies. In 2010 told Arkansas Carry, a state gun rights group, that he supports Stand Your Ground laws and tax exemptions for sales of gun and ammo manufactured in state.

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    Nice, huh...??

     

     

     
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    Here's one guy's idea of "unity":

     

    On Friday morning, Arkansas State Rep. Nate Bell (R) tweeted that “liberal” Boston residents likely wished for assault rifles and high-capacity magazines, as the manhunt for Boston Marathon bombing suspects continued.

    Bell, a second-term legislator and National Rifle Association life member, has previously supported allowing guns in churches as “removing a state mandated restriction on religious freedom.”

    His tweet said:

    I wonder how many Boston liberals spent the night cowering in their homes wishing they had an AR-15 with a hi-capacity magazine? #2A

    — Nate Bell (@NateBell4AR) April 19, 2013

     

    Bell has also backed legislation to make concealed carry licenses cheaper and to prevent the governor from regulating firearms even in state emergencies. In 2010 told Arkansas Carry, a state gun rights group, that he supports Stand Your Ground laws and tax exemptions for sales of gun and ammo manufactured in state.

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    Nice, huh...??

     

     



    There WERE people who spent the night cowering in their homes. Have you not heard any of the residents of Watertown calling into some of the radio shows and news outlets? One woman broke down crying she was so scared. I'm sure she wasn't the only one.

    I hope they catch this fcuker soon...dead or alive I don't care.

     

     
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    Here's one guy's idea of "unity":

     

    On Friday morning, Arkansas State Rep. Nate Bell (R) tweeted that “liberal” Boston residents likely wished for assault rifles and high-capacity magazines, as the manhunt for Boston Marathon bombing suspects continued.

    Bell, a second-term legislator and National Rifle Association life member, has previously supported allowing guns in churches as “removing a state mandated restriction on religious freedom.”

    His tweet said:

    I wonder how many Boston liberals spent the night cowering in their homes wishing they had an AR-15 with a hi-capacity magazine? #2A

    — Nate Bell (@NateBell4AR) April 19, 2013

     

    Bell has also backed legislation to make concealed carry licenses cheaper and to prevent the governor from regulating firearms even in state emergencies. In 2010 told Arkansas Carry, a state gun rights group, that he supports Stand Your Ground laws and tax exemptions for sales of gun and ammo manufactured in state.

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    Nice, huh...?? 




    He is within his rights. Not agreeing with him doesnt make him worng or bad!

     
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    There WERE people who spent the night cowering in their homes. Have you not heard any of the residents of Watertown calling into some of the radio shows and news outlets? One woman broke down crying she was so scared. I'm sure she wasn't the only one.

    I hope they catch this fcuker soon...dead or alive I don't care.

     

    That justifies his pudding-brained comment, then...?

    And I disagree only slightly...there's more to the story that he can't tell if he's dead, even though he should be stopped and captured by any means necessary.

     

     
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     I wonder how many Boston liberals spent the night cowering in their homes wishing they had an AR-15 with a hi-capacity magazine? #2A

     

    — Nate Bell (@NateBell4AR) April 19, 2013 

     

    A true pile of s__t. 




    How is it different than calling gun rights supporters; people who need guns to feel tough.

    Or saying people concerned with extremist groups "people scared of people in caves" or they just need a boggieman??

     
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    That doesnt change the FACT that out of 40,000 people found applying for guns illegally only 48 were prosecuted.

     

    Why make another law if, we dont or cant enforce the ones we have????



    The issue at hand here is background checks for gun purchases at gun shows and over the Internet.....which is essentially a neverending gun show. Forty percent of gun purchases in this country are made this way.

    Given that there is no law preventing criminals and crazy people from buying guns over the internet, what law specifically do you suggest enforcing will prevent this?

     
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    That doesnt change the FACT that out of 40,000 people found applying for guns illegally only 48 were prosecuted. 

    Why make another law if, we dont or cant enforce the ones we have????


    The issue at hand here is background checks for gun purchases at gun shows and over the Internet.....which is essentially a neverending gun show. Forty percent of gun purchases in this country are made this way.

    Given that there is no law preventing criminals and crazy people from buying guns over the internet, what law specifically do you suggest enforcing will prevent this?





    The law that says it's illegal for a felon/domestic abuser etc to try and buy a weapon but, 40,000 times background checks have shown people convicted of these crimes trying to buy guns but, only 48 have been procsecuted!!

    So, if we cant or wont prosecute these why would it be any different for people buying them over the internet??

     
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    He is within his rights. Not agreeing with him doesnt make him worng or bad!

    That doesn't make it any more accurate or artful...or meaningful.

     

    "Best to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."  - Mark Twain

     

     

     

     

     
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