On cue: Obama administration extends March 31 healthcare deadline

  1. You have chosen to ignore posts from ComingLiberalCrackup. Show ComingLiberalCrackup's posts

    On cue: Obama administration extends March 31 healthcare deadline

    Moving the goalposts? Say it aint so...Just a few weeks ago, even Obama flaks were saying there was no "statutory authority" to extend the specific ObamaCare signup deadline.

    Statutory authority? They dont need no stinkin' statutory authority!

    Hot Air:

    "Administration officials can stand around and talk about how the March 31st deadline is the real deal until they’re blue in the face, but you know they’ve been watching the pace at which Healthcare.gov signups have been trickling in like hawks — and while they’ve been conspicuously backing away from their erstwhile goal of 7 million enrollments in the opening phase, this would seem to suggest that the pace still isn’t running as quickly as they’d like it to be. [oops forgot, they already changed that goal to 6 million....]From the Washington Post:

    The Obama administration has decided to give extra time to Americans who say that they are unable to enroll in health-care plans through the federal insurance marketplace by the March 31 deadline.

    Federal officials confirmed Tuesday evening that all consumers who have begun to apply for coverage on HealthCare.gov, but who do not finish by Monday, will have until about mid-April to ask for an extension.

    Under the new rules, people will be able to qualify for an extension by checking a blue box on HealthCare.gov to indicate that they tried to enroll before the deadline. This method will rely on an honor system; the government will not try to determine whether the person is telling the truth. …

    Administration officials said the accommodation is an attempt to prepare for a possible surge of people trying to sign up in the final days before the deadline. Such a flood could leave some people unable to get through the system.

    An “honor system.” Glorious."

    "Insurance firms selling plans in the new marketplace want to minimize the possibility that people might wait to get coverage until they become sick — a practice that would undermine the central idea of keeping costs in check by balancing people who are expensive to insure with those who are healthy and require little medical treatment.."

    Ah, the "central idea of keeping costs in check"! How's that working out?  

    ObamaCare is so pathetic it is a comedy show....

     
  2. This post has been removed.

     
  3. You have chosen to ignore posts from ComingLiberalCrackup. Show ComingLiberalCrackup's posts

    Re: On cue: Obama administration extends March 31 healthcare deadline

    In response to WhatNowDoYouWant's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    An “honor system.” Glorious."

    [/QUOTE]

    Since you know everything, please enlighten us as to how the government could determine whether or not each specific person in fact tried to sign up but failed, and how much it would cost to make those determinations per person?

    [/QUOTE]

    Perhaps they should have thought of that , when they drafted legislation labelled  the "Affordable Care Act"? The law passed by the Congress and signed by the President, had an effective  date of "March 31, 2014"...

    But heck, why did they bother to pass a statute with any specificity in it ; just state ,

    "The President will decide what the law is, and what the deadlines are..."

     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from ComingLiberalCrackup. Show ComingLiberalCrackup's posts

    Re: On cue: Obama administration extends March 31 healthcare deadline

    ocare

     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from ComingLiberalCrackup. Show ComingLiberalCrackup's posts

    Re: On cue: Obama administration extends March 31 healthcare deadline

    “What the hell is this, a joke?” Boehner said at his weekly press conference.

    “The dates are the dates, and the law is the law,” he said. “The president doesn’t have the authority to change the law whenever he wants, which he continues to do.”

    Boehner added later in the press conference: “The law says that enrollment stops at the end of March. That’s what the law says. I’ve got to live by the law; you’ve got to live by the law; the American people have got to live by the law. And guess what? The president needs to live by the law as well.” 

    “This is part of a long-term pattern of this administration manipulating the law for its own convenience,” Boehner said. “It’s not hard to understand why the American people question this administration’s commitment to the rule of law.”

    The Speaker mocked the use of the “honor system” to determine who was eligible for an extension after the administration said it would make no effort to ensure that people had actually begun the process of signing up by March 31.

    “Why don’t they just say, ‘We’ve moved the date to April 15’? Because that’s in effect what they’ve done,” Boehner said. 



    Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/201791-boehner-what-the-hell-is-this-a-joke#ixzz2x5dE8sZL
    Follow us: @thehill on Twitter | TheHill on Facebook

     

     
  6. You have chosen to ignore posts from babytut. Show babytut's posts

    Re: On cue: Obama administration extends March 31 healthcare deadline

    disgusting!

     

    sebelius just last week said there was no way there would be an extension.  can we just trash this nightmare law now.

     
  7. You have chosen to ignore posts from ComingLiberalCrackup. Show ComingLiberalCrackup's posts

    Re: On cue: Obama administration extends March 31 healthcare deadline

    In response to WhatNowDoYouWant's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    An “honor system.” Glorious."

    [/QUOTE]

    Since you know everything, please enlighten us as to how the government could determine whether or not each specific person in fact tried to sign up but failed, and how much it would cost to make those determinations per person?

    [/QUOTE]

    The Government , the executive branch, has had 4 years to implement this law. This didnt just happen yesterday.

    The 'honor system' IS an extension, nothing more nor less.

    The executive branch's failure and the ongoing disaster with this law,  doesnt allow the executive branch to ignore the law.

    The law has no provisions for 'honor systems', or extensions. The law either has to be repealed in its entirety, amended , or enforced.

    If the executive branch wants to extend the deadline April 15, 2014 , or 2050, it needs to ask Congress to amend the law.

    The idea of letting applicants hit a checkbox on a website does not comply with the law. Of course, this is a flimsy fraudulent method to try to make the 6 million number, even though it will be a phony number. 

     
  8. You have chosen to ignore posts from ComingLiberalCrackup. Show ComingLiberalCrackup's posts

    Re: On cue: Obama administration extends March 31 healthcare deadline

    In response to WhatNowDoYouWant's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    Sorry can you highlight the portion of that post that actually responds to two very simple questions?

    - how the government could determine whether or not each specific person in fact tried to sign up but failed?

    - how much it would cost to make those determinations per person?

     

    [/QUOTE]

    My answer is, less than the  $684 Million budgeted for Obamacare advertising ..as long as you take the money from that budget, and hire private sector companies, paying them a fat bonus for every false "checkbox"  uncovered.... 

    Your defense for the failure of the Government to follow the law , is that the Government is so incompetent, it would be too expensive to follow the law...nice spin.


     

     
  9. You have chosen to ignore posts from newman09. Show newman09's posts

    Re: On cue: Obama administration extends March 31 healthcare deadline


    They may as well just leave it monumentally open, they are not going to fine anyone this year after this disaster of a roll out.

     
  10. This post has been removed.

     
  11. You have chosen to ignore posts from Hansoribrother. Show Hansoribrother's posts

    Re: On cue: Obama administration extends March 31 healthcare deadline

    In response to WhatNowDoYouWant's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    Sorry can you highlight the portion of that post that actually responds to two very simple questions?

    - how the government could determine whether or not each specific person in fact tried to sign up but failed?

    - how much it would cost to make those determinations per person?

     

     

    [/QUOTE]

    To find out if someone attempted to sign up and couldn't would normally be an easy thing to do technically. I think you would have to be aware of that requirement to some degree ahead of time. If you weren't then it might be limited to some degree.

    You've heard of "cookies", no?

    How much would it cost? Less than $600 million, or in other words who cares what it costs? That is pretty much the attitude of the people running the program anyway.

    They use the "honor system" for your qualifications for a subsidy too. 

    When you declare your income, they have the IRS to give you a rectal exam to find every last penny. When they shell it out, anything goes.

     

     
  12. This post has been removed.

     
  13. You have chosen to ignore posts from massmoderateJoe. Show massmoderateJoe's posts

    Re: On cue: Obama administration extends March 31 healthcare deadline

    In response to WhatNowDoYouWant's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to WhatNowDoYouWant's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    An “honor system.” Glorious."

    [/QUOTE]

    Since you know everything, please enlighten us as to how the government could determine whether or not each specific person in fact tried to sign up but failed, and how much it would cost to make those determinations per person?

    [/QUOTE]


    [/QUOTE]

    They could ask Snowden or check with the NSA.

    The public adminstrative process is usually ruthless and uncaring in pursuit of process unless, politicians in charge find it beneficial to them to change.

    This is meant to water down the growing complaints about ACA and limit the number of extra oxes being gore.  Delayed goring will lead to less negative votes about ACA in the fall.

    Check out the story below with a link to a campaign add for Rep Bachus in AL.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/will-brooke-alabama-obamacare-105072.html?hp=l12

     

     

     

     
Sections
Shortcuts

Share