One lesson from the election, wingnuts must change or die.

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    One lesson from the election, wingnuts must change or die.

    America is changing at a revolutionary pace: the white majority is hurrying towards minority status. And the electorate reflects that. Non-Hispanic whites were 87% of the voters in 1992. Exit polls suggest that they were 72% this time around.

    Hispanics were 2% of voters then. They are 10% now. But over a long summer and autumn of Republican events - the convention, rallies, meetings in diners and homes - I searched in vain for any sign of them.

    There is more to Republican electoral discomfort than just the Hispanic vote. Halfway through Tuesday night, renegade conservative commentator David Frum tweeted: "Upper class TV commentators think the only change the GOP needs is on immigration. Of course they all have health insurance."

    He was pointing, rather sharply, to the lack of policy ideas that might excite on the Republican side. It was just not good enough to try for a referendum. The Republicans needed more.

    But without the increasing Hispanic share - Romney won 27%, down from an already low 32% in 2008 - the Republicans will not win nationally, however good their ideas.

    Early on Tuesday evening, a shocked-looking Bill O'Reilly, a firebrand conservative talk-show host, went on the Republicans' favourite news broadcaster, Fox News.

    "The white establishment," he said, "is in a minority".

    "The demographics are changing. It's not a traditional America anymore."

    The challenge for Republicans now is simple: change or die. Because, with or without you, America is changing fast.

     
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    Re: One lesson from the election, wingnuts must change or die.

    In response to NO MO O's comment:

    Change or die... sounds like a threat.

    O speech does not support violent phrases.. unless his attack dogs spew them. Are you one of them ?



    How did you graduate from kindergarten?

    Change or die isn't a threat.  It's a warning.  Kind of like, evacuate the Jersey coast or die because a super storm is coming.

    The Republican party needs to change or they risk never being in the oval office again.  If they are going to continue to alienate minorities and working women and young whites, then they will never win another national election.

    How can expect to win a national election if their values run counter to the values of a mojority of the electorate.

    I never understood the alliance between small government advocates and the religious fundamentalists.  it results in a platform of freeing corporations and the wealthy from government regulation but having the Government telling individuals what they can and cannot do. 

    On the one hand, they complain about the government telling the doctor how to treat patients and then they try to pass laws telling doctors that they have perform trans-vaginal ultrasounds.  And none of you sees the hypocracy.

     
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    Re: One lesson from the election, wingnuts must change or die.

    In response to DirtyWaterLover's comment:

    In response to NO MO O's comment:

    Change or die... sounds like a threat.

    O speech does not support violent phrases.. unless his attack dogs spew them. Are you one of them ?



    How did you graduate from kindergarten?

    Change or die isn't a threat.  It's a warning.  Kind of like, evacuate the Jersey coast or die because a super storm is coming.

    The Republican party needs to change or they risk never being in the oval office again.  If they are going to continue to alienate minorities and working women and young whites, then they will never win another national election.

    How can expect to win a national election if their values run counter to the values of a mojority of the electorate.

    I never understood the alliance between small government advocates and the religious fundamentalists.  it results in a platform of freeing corporations and the wealthy from government regulation but having the Government telling individuals what they can and cannot do. 

    On the one hand, they complain about the government telling the doctor how to treat patients and then they try to pass laws telling doctors that they have perform trans-vaginal ultrasounds.  And none of you sees the hypocracy.



    Ah...but Palin really meant she wanted to shoot people....my god...

     
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    Re: One lesson from the election, wingnuts must change or die.

    Through their politics of fear the GOP has alienated themselves from many of the growing demographics in this country.  It is a short sighted approach to large scale politics.  It is by no means irreversable but if the GOP doesn't start reconsidering some of their platform regarding marriage equality, reproductive issues, and issues important to the Latino community, they will continue to lag behind as the GOP base grows older while the Dem base continues to win by large margins under age 30.

     
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    Re: One lesson from the election, wingnuts must change or die.

    In response to WhichOnesPink2's comment:

    In response to DirtyWaterLover's comment:

    In response to NO MO O's comment:

    Change or die... sounds like a threat.

    O speech does not support violent phrases.. unless his attack dogs spew them. Are you one of them ?



    How did you graduate from kindergarten?

    Change or die isn't a threat.  It's a warning.  Kind of like, evacuate the Jersey coast or die because a super storm is coming.

    The Republican party needs to change or they risk never being in the oval office again.  If they are going to continue to alienate minorities and working women and young whites, then they will never win another national election.

    How can expect to win a national election if their values run counter to the values of a mojority of the electorate.

    I never understood the alliance between small government advocates and the religious fundamentalists.  it results in a platform of freeing corporations and the wealthy from government regulation but having the Government telling individuals what they can and cannot do. 

    On the one hand, they complain about the government telling the doctor how to treat patients and then they try to pass laws telling doctors that they have perform trans-vaginal ultrasounds.  And none of you sees the hypocracy.



    Ah...but Palin really meant she wanted to shoot people....my god...




    You read that whole post and your take away is a useless Palin comparison?  It seems the substance is lost on you, which is both ironic and telling.

     
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    Re: One lesson from the election, wingnuts must change or die.

    In response to WhichOnesPink2's comment:

    Ah...but Palin really meant she wanted to shoot people....my god...



    BWAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

     

    Oh gawd, you're a freakin moron.

     

     

     
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    Re: One lesson from the election, wingnuts must change or die.

    After the shellacking the Dems took in 2010, the advice was that they had to change their leftist ways....they didnt, and roared back with their own shellacking.

    The GOP can't pander to Latinos and women by becoming Democrat-lite, that would only make things worse, electorally and otherwise.

    Wingnuts are damaged, but not dead, and need to take this lesson from a poem hundreds of years old:

     "Fight on, my men," says Sir Andrew Barton, "I am hurt, but I am not slain; I'll lay me down and bleed a while, And then I'll rise and fight again."

     
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    Re: One lesson from the election, wingnuts must change or die.

    In response to BetheKoolaid's comment:

    After the shellacking the Dems took in 2010, the advice was that they had to change their leftist ways....they didnt, and roared back with their own shellacking.

    The GOP can't pander to Latinos and women by becoming Democrat-lite, that would only make things worse, electorally and otherwise.

    Wingnuts are damaged, but not dead, and need to take this lesson from a poem hundreds of years old:

     "Fight on, my men," says Sir Andrew Barton, "I am hurt, but I am not slain; I'll lay me down and bleed a while, And then I'll rise and fight again."




    More apropos;

    Theirs not to make reply,
    Theirs not to reason why,
    Theirs but to do and die:

     
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    Re: One lesson from the election, wingnuts must change or die.

    In response to BetheKoolaid's comment:

    After the shellacking the Dems took in 2010, the advice was that they had to change their leftist ways....they didnt, and roared back with their own shellacking.

    The GOP can't pander to Latinos and women by becoming Democrat-lite, that would only make things worse, electorally and otherwise.

    Wingnuts are damaged, but not dead, and need to take this lesson from a poem hundreds of years old:

     "Fight on, my men," says Sir Andrew Barton, "I am hurt, but I am not slain; I'll lay me down and bleed a while, And then I'll rise and fight again."

    Rise and fight again?

    Not with the changing demographics you wont. 

    Change the social conservatism, stop the threats to the social programs regular people depend on and have arealistic immigration policy or... be dead and buried.

     
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    Re: One lesson from the election, wingnuts must change or die.

    "The GOP can't pander to Latinos and women by becoming Democrat-lite, that would only make things worse, electorally and otherwise. Wingnuts are damaged, but not dead, and need to take this lesson from a poem hundreds of years old: "Fight on, my men," says Sir Andrew Barton, "I am hurt, but I am not slain; I'll lay me down and bleed a while, And then I'll rise and fight again."

    I hope the GOP stays as it is. Keeps them out of the oval office and limits the damage they can do to the country. unfortunately, they'll still have the ability to own state government and gerrymander the congressional districts to make it easier for them to keep the house.

    As long as the GOP is the party of fear, their chances of taking the white house will dwindle.  As they they dwindle, they will become more and more conservative and more and more about fear. 

     

     
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