Panetta said "Obama was absent during beghazi and never even checked in" WOW

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    Re: Panetta said

    In response to NO MO O's comment:

    Guess WHO attacked America will be a mystery... by design.  

    We get 4+ years of blame Bush but Allah forbid we blame the Messiah.... ?

    You cry like a little girl.  




    You have to have a reason to blame someone.  You know, actual facts that establish errors took place and something could have been done to avoid them.  You don't do this.  You just mindlessly blame Obama for a tragedy without any facts to establish why you do this.  Don't you wonder why you have this innate hatred for all things Obama?  You have no rational reasons... just a visceral prejudice... What could it be rooted in?  Gee, I wonder...

     
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    Re: Panetta said

    In response to NO MO O's comment:

    In response to Reubenhop's comment:

     

    In response to NO MO O's comment:

     

    Guess WHO attacked America will be a mystery... by design.  

    We get 4+ years of blame Bush but Allah forbid we blame the Messiah.... ?

    You cry like a little girl.  

     




    You have to have a reason to blame someone.  You know, actual facts that establish errors took place and something could have been done to avoid them.  You don't do this.  You just mindlessly blame Obama for a tragedy without any facts to establish why you do this.  Don't you wonder why you have this innate hatred for all things Obama?  You have no rational reasons... just a visceral prejudice... What could it be rooted in?  Gee, I wonder...

     

     

     

    Related to this tragedy of a terrorist attack... (aka utube video BS)

    There will be NO justice !

    There will be NO retaliation !

    There will be NO truth !

     

    All of the above are true and completely okay with you.

     

    Please continue your pathetic demeaning the poster routine.

    Predictable.   .



    Again no facts.  You should be ashamed of yourself.  You don't even bother to mount a semblance of an argument.  Just mindless rants.  Now that is truly pathetic.

     
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    Re: Panetta said

    In response to Reubenhop's comment:

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    In response to tvoter's comment:

    the attack ended before they could get off the ground.



    It bears repeating.

     

     




    And again.

     

     



    Here's the timeline that puts and end to your horrible lie.

     

    9:42 p.m. -- Armed men begin their assault on the U.S. Consulate.

    9:59 p.m. -- A surveillance drone is directed to fly over the U.S. compound, but it is unarmed.

    10:32 p.m. -- The Office of the Secretary Defense and the Joint Staff are notified of the attack by the National Military Command Center at the Pentagon. "The information is quickly passed to Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey."

    11 p.m. -- Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey meet with President Obama at the White House where they discuss the unfolding situation and how to respond. The meeting had been previously scheduled.

    11:10 p.m. -- The surveillance drone arrives over the Benghazi facility.

    11:30 p.m. -- All surviving U.S. personnel are evacuated from the consulate. U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and State Department computer expert Sean Smith were killed in the initial assault.

    September 12

    Midnight to 2 a.m. -- Panetta and other senior leaders discuss possible options for further violence if it were to break out. Panetta gives verbal orders for Marine anti-terrorist teams from Rota, Spain, to prepare to deploy to Tripoli and Benghazi. Panetta also orders a special operations force team training in Croatia and an additional special operations force team in the United States to prepare to deploy to a staging base in southern Italy.

    1:30 a.m. -- A six-man security team from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli arrives in Benghazi.

    2:39 a.m. to 2:53 a.m. -- The National Military Command Center gives formal authorization for the deployment of the two special operations force teams from Croatia and the United States.

    5:15 a.m. -- Attackers launch assault on a second U.S. facility in Benghazi. Two former U.S. Navy SEALs acting as security contractors are killed. They are identified as Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

    6:05 a.m. -- A C-17 aircraft in Germany is told to prepare to deploy to Libya to evacuate the consulate personnel.

    7:40 a.m. -- The first wave of Americans are evacuated to Tripoli via airplane.

    10 a.m. -- A second group, including those killed in the attack, are flown to Tripoli.

    2:15 p.m. -- The C-17 departs from Germany for the flight to Tripoli.

    7:17 p.m. -- The C-17 leaves Tripoli with the American consulate personnel and the bodies of Stevens, Smith, Woods and Doherty.

    7:57 p.m. -- The U.S. special operations force team based in Croatia arrives at a staging base in Italy.

    8:56 p.m. -- One of the Marine anti-terrorist teams from Spain arrives in Tripoli.

    9:28 p.m. -- The U.S.-based special operations force team arrives at its staging base in Italy.

     



    I think it puts an end to your terrible lie.  Resources were summoned to address the situation.  They got there too late to be of any real use.  There is no indication that anything could have been done differently.  But the "Blame Obama game" must continue at all costs and regardless of the actual facts.

     



    What lie?  Did I say that this was in response to a video?  Did I say it was over before it started.

    Rube, calling someone a liar only weakens our argument.

     
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    Re: Panetta said

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

    In response to Reubenhop's comment:

     

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

     

    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

     

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    the attack ended before they could get off the ground.



    It bears repeating.

     

     




    And again.

     

     



    Here's the timeline that puts and end to your horrible lie.

     

    9:42 p.m. -- Armed men begin their assault on the U.S. Consulate.

    9:59 p.m. -- A surveillance drone is directed to fly over the U.S. compound, but it is unarmed.

    10:32 p.m. -- The Office of the Secretary Defense and the Joint Staff are notified of the attack by the National Military Command Center at the Pentagon. "The information is quickly passed to Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey."

    11 p.m. -- Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey meet with President Obama at the White House where they discuss the unfolding situation and how to respond. The meeting had been previously scheduled.

    11:10 p.m. -- The surveillance drone arrives over the Benghazi facility.

    11:30 p.m. -- All surviving U.S. personnel are evacuated from the consulate. U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and State Department computer expert Sean Smith were killed in the initial assault.

    September 12

    Midnight to 2 a.m. -- Panetta and other senior leaders discuss possible options for further violence if it were to break out. Panetta gives verbal orders for Marine anti-terrorist teams from Rota, Spain, to prepare to deploy to Tripoli and Benghazi. Panetta also orders a special operations force team training in Croatia and an additional special operations force team in the United States to prepare to deploy to a staging base in southern Italy.

    1:30 a.m. -- A six-man security team from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli arrives in Benghazi.

    2:39 a.m. to 2:53 a.m. -- The National Military Command Center gives formal authorization for the deployment of the two special operations force teams from Croatia and the United States.

    5:15 a.m. -- Attackers launch assault on a second U.S. facility in Benghazi. Two former U.S. Navy SEALs acting as security contractors are killed. They are identified as Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

    6:05 a.m. -- A C-17 aircraft in Germany is told to prepare to deploy to Libya to evacuate the consulate personnel.

    7:40 a.m. -- The first wave of Americans are evacuated to Tripoli via airplane.

    10 a.m. -- A second group, including those killed in the attack, are flown to Tripoli.

    2:15 p.m. -- The C-17 departs from Germany for the flight to Tripoli.

    7:17 p.m. -- The C-17 leaves Tripoli with the American consulate personnel and the bodies of Stevens, Smith, Woods and Doherty.

    7:57 p.m. -- The U.S. special operations force team based in Croatia arrives at a staging base in Italy.

    8:56 p.m. -- One of the Marine anti-terrorist teams from Spain arrives in Tripoli.

    9:28 p.m. -- The U.S.-based special operations force team arrives at its staging base in Italy.

     



    I think it puts an end to your terrible lie.  Resources were summoned to address the situation.  They got there too late to be of any real use.  There is no indication that anything could have been done differently.  But the "Blame Obama game" must continue at all costs and regardless of the actual facts.

     

     



    What lie?  Did I say that this was in response to a video?  Did I say it was over before it started.

     

    Rube, calling someone a liar only weakens our argument.



    One lie is your claim that Stevens was dragged through the streets, when he was in fact being dragged out of the rubble and brought to a nearby hospital by Libyan civilians, chanting "Praise God, he's alive".  

    How, exactly does this happen three hours into a twelve hour assault?

     

     
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    Re: Panetta said

    In response to slomag's comment:

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

    In response to Reubenhop's comment:

     

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

     

    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

     

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    the attack ended before they could get off the ground.



    It bears repeating.

     

     




    And again.

     

     



    Here's the timeline that puts and end to your horrible lie.

     

    9:42 p.m. -- Armed men begin their assault on the U.S. Consulate.

    9:59 p.m. -- A surveillance drone is directed to fly over the U.S. compound, but it is unarmed.

    10:32 p.m. -- The Office of the Secretary Defense and the Joint Staff are notified of the attack by the National Military Command Center at the Pentagon. "The information is quickly passed to Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey."

    11 p.m. -- Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey meet with President Obama at the White House where they discuss the unfolding situation and how to respond. The meeting had been previously scheduled.

    11:10 p.m. -- The surveillance drone arrives over the Benghazi facility.

    11:30 p.m. -- All surviving U.S. personnel are evacuated from the consulate. U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and State Department computer expert Sean Smith were killed in the initial assault.

    September 12

    Midnight to 2 a.m. -- Panetta and other senior leaders discuss possible options for further violence if it were to break out. Panetta gives verbal orders for Marine anti-terrorist teams from Rota, Spain, to prepare to deploy to Tripoli and Benghazi. Panetta also orders a special operations force team training in Croatia and an additional special operations force team in the United States to prepare to deploy to a staging base in southern Italy.

    1:30 a.m. -- A six-man security team from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli arrives in Benghazi.

    2:39 a.m. to 2:53 a.m. -- The National Military Command Center gives formal authorization for the deployment of the two special operations force teams from Croatia and the United States.

    5:15 a.m. -- Attackers launch assault on a second U.S. facility in Benghazi. Two former U.S. Navy SEALs acting as security contractors are killed. They are identified as Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

    6:05 a.m. -- A C-17 aircraft in Germany is told to prepare to deploy to Libya to evacuate the consulate personnel.

    7:40 a.m. -- The first wave of Americans are evacuated to Tripoli via airplane.

    10 a.m. -- A second group, including those killed in the attack, are flown to Tripoli.

    2:15 p.m. -- The C-17 departs from Germany for the flight to Tripoli.

    7:17 p.m. -- The C-17 leaves Tripoli with the American consulate personnel and the bodies of Stevens, Smith, Woods and Doherty.

    7:57 p.m. -- The U.S. special operations force team based in Croatia arrives at a staging base in Italy.

    8:56 p.m. -- One of the Marine anti-terrorist teams from Spain arrives in Tripoli.

    9:28 p.m. -- The U.S.-based special operations force team arrives at its staging base in Italy.

     



    I think it puts an end to your terrible lie.  Resources were summoned to address the situation.  They got there too late to be of any real use.  There is no indication that anything could have been done differently.  But the "Blame Obama game" must continue at all costs and regardless of the actual facts.

     

     



    What lie?  Did I say that this was in response to a video?  Did I say it was over before it started.

     

    Rube, calling someone a liar only weakens our argument.

     



     

    One lie is your claim that Stevens was dragged through the streets, when he was in fact being dragged out of the rubble and brought to a nearby hospital by Libyan civilians, chanting "Praise God, he's alive".  

    How, exactly does this happen three hours into a twelve hour assault?

     

    Think before you act, Rube.


    That is speculation on your part. I look at the vieo and find it very unusual that he was taken out of the embqassy, laid on the ground, and had photos taken.  that is hardy "taking him to a nearby hospital".

    What happened, and I am being kind here, is at best, undetermined.

     

     

     
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    Re: Panetta said

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

    In response to Reubenhop's comment:

     

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

     

    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

     

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    the attack ended before they could get off the ground.



    It bears repeating.

     

     




    And again.

     

     



    Here's the timeline that puts and end to your horrible lie.

     

    9:42 p.m. -- Armed men begin their assault on the U.S. Consulate.

    9:59 p.m. -- A surveillance drone is directed to fly over the U.S. compound, but it is unarmed.

    10:32 p.m. -- The Office of the Secretary Defense and the Joint Staff are notified of the attack by the National Military Command Center at the Pentagon. "The information is quickly passed to Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey."

    11 p.m. -- Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey meet with President Obama at the White House where they discuss the unfolding situation and how to respond. The meeting had been previously scheduled.

    11:10 p.m. -- The surveillance drone arrives over the Benghazi facility.

    11:30 p.m. -- All surviving U.S. personnel are evacuated from the consulate. U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and State Department computer expert Sean Smith were killed in the initial assault.

    September 12

    Midnight to 2 a.m. -- Panetta and other senior leaders discuss possible options for further violence if it were to break out. Panetta gives verbal orders for Marine anti-terrorist teams from Rota, Spain, to prepare to deploy to Tripoli and Benghazi. Panetta also orders a special operations force team training in Croatia and an additional special operations force team in the United States to prepare to deploy to a staging base in southern Italy.

    1:30 a.m. -- A six-man security team from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli arrives in Benghazi.

    2:39 a.m. to 2:53 a.m. -- The National Military Command Center gives formal authorization for the deployment of the two special operations force teams from Croatia and the United States.

    5:15 a.m. -- Attackers launch assault on a second U.S. facility in Benghazi. Two former U.S. Navy SEALs acting as security contractors are killed. They are identified as Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

    6:05 a.m. -- A C-17 aircraft in Germany is told to prepare to deploy to Libya to evacuate the consulate personnel.

    7:40 a.m. -- The first wave of Americans are evacuated to Tripoli via airplane.

    10 a.m. -- A second group, including those killed in the attack, are flown to Tripoli.

    2:15 p.m. -- The C-17 departs from Germany for the flight to Tripoli.

    7:17 p.m. -- The C-17 leaves Tripoli with the American consulate personnel and the bodies of Stevens, Smith, Woods and Doherty.

    7:57 p.m. -- The U.S. special operations force team based in Croatia arrives at a staging base in Italy.

    8:56 p.m. -- One of the Marine anti-terrorist teams from Spain arrives in Tripoli.

    9:28 p.m. -- The U.S.-based special operations force team arrives at its staging base in Italy.

     



    I think it puts an end to your terrible lie.  Resources were summoned to address the situation.  They got there too late to be of any real use.  There is no indication that anything could have been done differently.  But the "Blame Obama game" must continue at all costs and regardless of the actual facts.

     

     



    What lie?  Did I say that this was in response to a video?  Did I say it was over before it started.

     

    Rube, calling someone a liar only weakens our argument.



    The video issue has nothing to do with the timeline posted.  It does not address why there was an attack.  So it does not prove anyone is lying as you suggest.  The issue in this thread is that Obama supposedly could have halted the terrorist attack. You are talking about something else entirely.  So my mistake, I thought you were paying attention...

     
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    Re: Panetta said

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    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

    In response to Reubenhop's comment:

     

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

     

    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

     

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    the attack ended before they could get off the ground.



    It bears repeating.

     

     




    And again.

     

     



    Here's the timeline that puts and end to your horrible lie.

     

    9:42 p.m. -- Armed men begin their assault on the U.S. Consulate.

    9:59 p.m. -- A surveillance drone is directed to fly over the U.S. compound, but it is unarmed.

    10:32 p.m. -- The Office of the Secretary Defense and the Joint Staff are notified of the attack by the National Military Command Center at the Pentagon. "The information is quickly passed to Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey."

    11 p.m. -- Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey meet with President Obama at the White House where they discuss the unfolding situation and how to respond. The meeting had been previously scheduled.

    11:10 p.m. -- The surveillance drone arrives over the Benghazi facility.

    11:30 p.m. -- All surviving U.S. personnel are evacuated from the consulate. U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and State Department computer expert Sean Smith were killed in the initial assault.

    September 12

    Midnight to 2 a.m. -- Panetta and other senior leaders discuss possible options for further violence if it were to break out. Panetta gives verbal orders for Marine anti-terrorist teams from Rota, Spain, to prepare to deploy to Tripoli and Benghazi. Panetta also orders a special operations force team training in Croatia and an additional special operations force team in the United States to prepare to deploy to a staging base in southern Italy.

    1:30 a.m. -- A six-man security team from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli arrives in Benghazi.

    2:39 a.m. to 2:53 a.m. -- The National Military Command Center gives formal authorization for the deployment of the two special operations force teams from Croatia and the United States.

    5:15 a.m. -- Attackers launch assault on a second U.S. facility in Benghazi. Two former U.S. Navy SEALs acting as security contractors are killed. They are identified as Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

    6:05 a.m. -- A C-17 aircraft in Germany is told to prepare to deploy to Libya to evacuate the consulate personnel.

    7:40 a.m. -- The first wave of Americans are evacuated to Tripoli via airplane.

    10 a.m. -- A second group, including those killed in the attack, are flown to Tripoli.

    2:15 p.m. -- The C-17 departs from Germany for the flight to Tripoli.

    7:17 p.m. -- The C-17 leaves Tripoli with the American consulate personnel and the bodies of Stevens, Smith, Woods and Doherty.

    7:57 p.m. -- The U.S. special operations force team based in Croatia arrives at a staging base in Italy.

    8:56 p.m. -- One of the Marine anti-terrorist teams from Spain arrives in Tripoli.

    9:28 p.m. -- The U.S.-based special operations force team arrives at its staging base in Italy.

     



    I think it puts an end to your terrible lie.  Resources were summoned to address the situation.  They got there too late to be of any real use.  There is no indication that anything could have been done differently.  But the "Blame Obama game" must continue at all costs and regardless of the actual facts.

     

     



    What lie?  Did I say that this was in response to a video?  Did I say it was over before it started.

     

    Rube, calling someone a liar only weakens our argument.

     



     

    One lie is your claim that Stevens was dragged through the streets, when he was in fact being dragged out of the rubble and brought to a nearby hospital by Libyan civilians, chanting "Praise God, he's alive".  

    How, exactly does this happen three hours into a twelve hour assault?

     

     

     

    Think before you act, Rube.


    That is speculation on your part. I look at the vieo and find it very unusual that he was taken out of the embqassy, laid on the ground, and had photos taken.  that is hardy "taking him to a nearby hospital".

    What happened, and I am being kind here, is at best, undetermined.

     

     



    We know that Stevens was taken to a nearby hospital, that he arrived alive, and that he died of smoke inhalation 3 hours after the initial attack.

    We know that Libyans in street clothes pulled Stevens out of the rubble, shouting 'praise God - he's alive".

    You can jump to the conclusion that this was all part of some grand coverup by Obama, but you can't jump to the conclusion that the people in the video brought Stevens to the hospital?

     

     
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    Re: Panetta said

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    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

    In response to Reubenhop's comment:

     

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    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

     

    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

     

    In response to tvoter's comment:

    the attack ended before they could get off the ground.



    It bears repeating.

     

     




    And again.

     

     



    Here's the timeline that puts and end to your horrible lie.

     

    9:42 p.m. -- Armed men begin their assault on the U.S. Consulate.

    9:59 p.m. -- A surveillance drone is directed to fly over the U.S. compound, but it is unarmed.

    10:32 p.m. -- The Office of the Secretary Defense and the Joint Staff are notified of the attack by the National Military Command Center at the Pentagon. "The information is quickly passed to Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey."

    11 p.m. -- Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey meet with President Obama at the White House where they discuss the unfolding situation and how to respond. The meeting had been previously scheduled.

    11:10 p.m. -- The surveillance drone arrives over the Benghazi facility.

    11:30 p.m. -- All surviving U.S. personnel are evacuated from the consulate. U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and State Department computer expert Sean Smith were killed in the initial assault.

    September 12

    Midnight to 2 a.m. -- Panetta and other senior leaders discuss possible options for further violence if it were to break out. Panetta gives verbal orders for Marine anti-terrorist teams from Rota, Spain, to prepare to deploy to Tripoli and Benghazi. Panetta also orders a special operations force team training in Croatia and an additional special operations force team in the United States to prepare to deploy to a staging base in southern Italy.

    1:30 a.m. -- A six-man security team from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli arrives in Benghazi.

    2:39 a.m. to 2:53 a.m. -- The National Military Command Center gives formal authorization for the deployment of the two special operations force teams from Croatia and the United States.

    5:15 a.m. -- Attackers launch assault on a second U.S. facility in Benghazi. Two former U.S. Navy SEALs acting as security contractors are killed. They are identified as Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

    6:05 a.m. -- A C-17 aircraft in Germany is told to prepare to deploy to Libya to evacuate the consulate personnel.

    7:40 a.m. -- The first wave of Americans are evacuated to Tripoli via airplane.

    10 a.m. -- A second group, including those killed in the attack, are flown to Tripoli.

    2:15 p.m. -- The C-17 departs from Germany for the flight to Tripoli.

    7:17 p.m. -- The C-17 leaves Tripoli with the American consulate personnel and the bodies of Stevens, Smith, Woods and Doherty.

    7:57 p.m. -- The U.S. special operations force team based in Croatia arrives at a staging base in Italy.

    8:56 p.m. -- One of the Marine anti-terrorist teams from Spain arrives in Tripoli.

    9:28 p.m. -- The U.S.-based special operations force team arrives at its staging base in Italy.

     



    I think it puts an end to your terrible lie.  Resources were summoned to address the situation.  They got there too late to be of any real use.  There is no indication that anything could have been done differently.  But the "Blame Obama game" must continue at all costs and regardless of the actual facts.

     

     



    What lie?  Did I say that this was in response to a video?  Did I say it was over before it started.

     

    Rube, calling someone a liar only weakens our argument.

     



    The video issue has nothing to do with the timeline posted.  It does not address why there was an attack.  So it does not prove anyone is lying as you suggest.  The issue in this thread is that Obama supposedly could have halted the terrorist attack. You are talking about something else entirely.  So my mistake, I thought you were paying attention...

     

     



    Changing subjects? Again?

     

     
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    Re: Panetta said

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    In response to tvoter's comment:

    the attack ended before they could get off the ground.



    It bears repeating.

     

     




    And again.

     

     



    Here's the timeline that puts and end to your horrible lie.

     

    9:42 p.m. -- Armed men begin their assault on the U.S. Consulate.

    9:59 p.m. -- A surveillance drone is directed to fly over the U.S. compound, but it is unarmed.

    10:32 p.m. -- The Office of the Secretary Defense and the Joint Staff are notified of the attack by the National Military Command Center at the Pentagon. "The information is quickly passed to Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey."

    11 p.m. -- Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey meet with President Obama at the White House where they discuss the unfolding situation and how to respond. The meeting had been previously scheduled.

    11:10 p.m. -- The surveillance drone arrives over the Benghazi facility.

    11:30 p.m. -- All surviving U.S. personnel are evacuated from the consulate. U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and State Department computer expert Sean Smith were killed in the initial assault.

    September 12

    Midnight to 2 a.m. -- Panetta and other senior leaders discuss possible options for further violence if it were to break out. Panetta gives verbal orders for Marine anti-terrorist teams from Rota, Spain, to prepare to deploy to Tripoli and Benghazi. Panetta also orders a special operations force team training in Croatia and an additional special operations force team in the United States to prepare to deploy to a staging base in southern Italy.

    1:30 a.m. -- A six-man security team from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli arrives in Benghazi.

    2:39 a.m. to 2:53 a.m. -- The National Military Command Center gives formal authorization for the deployment of the two special operations force teams from Croatia and the United States.

    5:15 a.m. -- Attackers launch assault on a second U.S. facility in Benghazi. Two former U.S. Navy SEALs acting as security contractors are killed. They are identified as Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

    6:05 a.m. -- A C-17 aircraft in Germany is told to prepare to deploy to Libya to evacuate the consulate personnel.

    7:40 a.m. -- The first wave of Americans are evacuated to Tripoli via airplane.

    10 a.m. -- A second group, including those killed in the attack, are flown to Tripoli.

    2:15 p.m. -- The C-17 departs from Germany for the flight to Tripoli.

    7:17 p.m. -- The C-17 leaves Tripoli with the American consulate personnel and the bodies of Stevens, Smith, Woods and Doherty.

    7:57 p.m. -- The U.S. special operations force team based in Croatia arrives at a staging base in Italy.

    8:56 p.m. -- One of the Marine anti-terrorist teams from Spain arrives in Tripoli.

    9:28 p.m. -- The U.S.-based special operations force team arrives at its staging base in Italy.

     



    I think it puts an end to your terrible lie.  Resources were summoned to address the situation.  They got there too late to be of any real use.  There is no indication that anything could have been done differently.  But the "Blame Obama game" must continue at all costs and regardless of the actual facts.

     

     



    What lie?  Did I say that this was in response to a video?  Did I say it was over before it started.

     

    Rube, calling someone a liar only weakens our argument.

     



     

    One lie is your claim that Stevens was dragged through the streets, when he was in fact being dragged out of the rubble and brought to a nearby hospital by Libyan civilians, chanting "Praise God, he's alive".  

    How, exactly does this happen three hours into a twelve hour assault?

     

     

     

    Think before you act, Rube.


    That is speculation on your part. I look at the vieo and find it very unusual that he was taken out of the embqassy, laid on the ground, and had photos taken.  that is hardy "taking him to a nearby hospital".

    What happened, and I am being kind here, is at best, undetermined.

     

     

     



     

    We know that Stevens was taken to a nearby hospital, that he arrived alive, and that he died of smoke inhalation 3 hours after the initial attack.

    We know that Libyans in street clothes pulled Stevens out of the rubble, shouting 'praise God - he's alive".

    You can jump to the conclusion that this was all part of some grand coverup by Obama, but you can't jump to the conclusion that the people in the video brought Stevens to the hospital?

     




    And, the video to whihc you refer shows that?

     

    Seems you are willing to take the word of an awful lot of terrorists and looters as stone-cold fact.

    I would say Stevens lying on the ground, and a person kneeling on his chest (at the end of the video)tells me more about intent.

    At best that video show thatthere were some who suggested taking Stevens to a hospital.  It does not show them even attempting to take him to a hospital.  It shows them removing him from the site and laying him on the street so they could continue their looting.

     
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    Re: Panetta said

    In response to NO MO O's comment:

    Pity that all the eye witnesses to all of this are being hidden.

    This writer can only think of one reasons for that.

    Maybe our fellow American Democrats will suggest they all suffered from the Hillary Syndrome and none of them will be available any time soon.



    You want to subpeona a Libyan?  You get more smarter every day.

     
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    Re: Panetta said

    In response to NO MO O's comment:

    Pity that all the eye witnesses to all of this are being hidden.

    This writer can only think of one reasons for that.

    Maybe our fellow American Democrats will suggest they all suffered from the Hillary Syndrome and none of them will be available any time soon.



    Ohh, a governmental conspiracy.  Witnesses being "hidden" from view.  No facts to support any of this, but rant on mindlessly by all means.  

    And regurgitating right wing rants hardly makes you a "writer".

     
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    Re: Panetta said

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

    In response to slomag's comment:

     

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

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    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

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    In response to tvoter's comment:

    the attack ended before they could get off the ground.



    It bears repeating.

     

     




    And again.

     

     



    Here's the timeline that puts and end to your horrible lie.

     

    9:42 p.m. -- Armed men begin their assault on the U.S. Consulate.

    9:59 p.m. -- A surveillance drone is directed to fly over the U.S. compound, but it is unarmed.

    10:32 p.m. -- The Office of the Secretary Defense and the Joint Staff are notified of the attack by the National Military Command Center at the Pentagon. "The information is quickly passed to Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey."

    11 p.m. -- Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey meet with President Obama at the White House where they discuss the unfolding situation and how to respond. The meeting had been previously scheduled.

    11:10 p.m. -- The surveillance drone arrives over the Benghazi facility.

    11:30 p.m. -- All surviving U.S. personnel are evacuated from the consulate. U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and State Department computer expert Sean Smith were killed in the initial assault.

    September 12

    Midnight to 2 a.m. -- Panetta and other senior leaders discuss possible options for further violence if it were to break out. Panetta gives verbal orders for Marine anti-terrorist teams from Rota, Spain, to prepare to deploy to Tripoli and Benghazi. Panetta also orders a special operations force team training in Croatia and an additional special operations force team in the United States to prepare to deploy to a staging base in southern Italy.

    1:30 a.m. -- A six-man security team from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli arrives in Benghazi.

    2:39 a.m. to 2:53 a.m. -- The National Military Command Center gives formal authorization for the deployment of the two special operations force teams from Croatia and the United States.

    5:15 a.m. -- Attackers launch assault on a second U.S. facility in Benghazi. Two former U.S. Navy SEALs acting as security contractors are killed. They are identified as Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

    6:05 a.m. -- A C-17 aircraft in Germany is told to prepare to deploy to Libya to evacuate the consulate personnel.

    7:40 a.m. -- The first wave of Americans are evacuated to Tripoli via airplane.

    10 a.m. -- A second group, including those killed in the attack, are flown to Tripoli.

    2:15 p.m. -- The C-17 departs from Germany for the flight to Tripoli.

    7:17 p.m. -- The C-17 leaves Tripoli with the American consulate personnel and the bodies of Stevens, Smith, Woods and Doherty.

    7:57 p.m. -- The U.S. special operations force team based in Croatia arrives at a staging base in Italy.

    8:56 p.m. -- One of the Marine anti-terrorist teams from Spain arrives in Tripoli.

    9:28 p.m. -- The U.S.-based special operations force team arrives at its staging base in Italy.

     



    I think it puts an end to your terrible lie.  Resources were summoned to address the situation.  They got there too late to be of any real use.  There is no indication that anything could have been done differently.  But the "Blame Obama game" must continue at all costs and regardless of the actual facts.

     

     



    What lie?  Did I say that this was in response to a video?  Did I say it was over before it started.

     

    Rube, calling someone a liar only weakens our argument.

     



     

    One lie is your claim that Stevens was dragged through the streets, when he was in fact being dragged out of the rubble and brought to a nearby hospital by Libyan civilians, chanting "Praise God, he's alive".  

    How, exactly does this happen three hours into a twelve hour assault?

     

     

     

    Think before you act, Rube.


    That is speculation on your part. I look at the vieo and find it very unusual that he was taken out of the embqassy, laid on the ground, and had photos taken.  that is hardy "taking him to a nearby hospital".

    What happened, and I am being kind here, is at best, undetermined.

     

     

     



     

    We know that Stevens was taken to a nearby hospital, that he arrived alive, and that he died of smoke inhalation 3 hours after the initial attack.

    We know that Libyans in street clothes pulled Stevens out of the rubble, shouting 'praise God - he's alive".

    You can jump to the conclusion that this was all part of some grand coverup by Obama, but you can't jump to the conclusion that the people in the video brought Stevens to the hospital?

     

     




     

    And, the video to whihc you refer shows that?

     

    Seems you are willing to take the word of an awful lot of terrorists and looters as stone-cold fact.

    I would say Stevens lying on the ground, and a person kneeling on his chest (at the end of the video)tells me more about intent.

    At best that video show thatthere were some who suggested taking Stevens to a hospital.  It does not show them even attempting to take him to a hospital.  It shows them removing him from the site and laying him on the street so they could continue their looting.



    You don't dispute that he was recovered from the hospital, where he was pronounced dead 3 hours after the assault began, right?

    Let's take your version of events - how are looters crawling through the rubble less than 3 hours into a 12-hour seige on the consulate?  How did Stevens get from the consulate to the hospital, if the looters were there to drag him through the streets, and the re-inforcements from Tripoli would not arrive for more than an hour?

    Neither one of us knows exactly what happened that night, but my explanation is that the consulate was not under seige at the time, and the "looters" talking about taking Stevens to the hospital actually took him to the hospital.  So what's your explanation?  If you refuse to answer, change the subject, or use fairy dust in your explanation, you might as well just reply "I'm full of sh1t."

     
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    Re: Panetta said

    In response to GreginMeffa's comment:

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

     

    This dead horse is certainly taking a beating.

     

     

     



    LOL.

     

    "It's Bush's fault" !!!!

     



    "WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?"- Hillary Clinton, the moral compass of the left.

     
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    Re: Panetta said

    In response to slomag's comment:

    In response to NO MO O's comment:

     

    Pity that all the eye witnesses to all of this are being hidden.

    This writer can only think of one reasons for that.

    Maybe our fellow American Democrats will suggest they all suffered from the Hillary Syndrome and none of them will be available any time soon.

     



    You want to subpeona a Libyan?  You get more smarter every day.

     



    There are Americans who survived the attack, at least five that we know of, and about 20 friendlies in total.  they are not being allowed to testify by the Obama administration.  Why?

    What could they possibly say that would change the story?

     
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