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    Its not about GOP vs DNC for everyone!




     

    Yeah ok Mr. Fake Bipartisan

     
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    1.  The president will concede something acceptable, and congress votes to raise the debt ceiling.

    2.  Boehner falls on his sword at the 11th hour and puts the debt ceiling to a vote and it passes.

    3.  With no deal, the president proudly and smartly invokes the 14th amendment to preserve the economic stability of the country......leading to his impeachment on a strictly party line vote.

    4.  Other



    UserName9,

     Which prediction do you think is the most likely to happen and why?

     



    3...I believe the president will order the government to pay its bills, and the crazed GOP House will impeach him, but the Senate has his back.  Once our credit and credibility are protected, we can safely ignore them and they can sit and stew in their own hatred.......until 2014 when it comes time to vote.



    What would be the grounds for impeachment? Invoking the 14th amendment isn't illegal is it?



    No, it isn't.

    Could it be that's what many in the gop/tp wants though...to impeach the prez...?

    After all, a large majority of polled tee partiers think that debt default is no big deal.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    1.  The president will concede something acceptable, and congress votes to raise the debt ceiling.

    2.  Boehner falls on his sword at the 11th hour and puts the debt ceiling to a vote and it passes.

    3.  With no deal, the president proudly and smartly invokes the 14th amendment to preserve the economic stability of the country......leading to his impeachment on a strictly party line vote.

    4.  Other



    UserName9,

     Which prediction do you think is the most likely to happen and why?

     



    3...I believe the president will order the government to pay its bills, and the crazed GOP House will impeach him, but the Senate has his back.  Once our credit and credibility are protected, we can safely ignore them and they can sit and stew in their own hatred.......until 2014 when it comes time to vote.



    What would be the grounds for impeachment? Invoking the 14th amendment isn't illegal is it?



    No, it isn't.

    Could it be that's what many in the gop/tp wants though...to impeach the prez...?

    After all, a large majority of polled tee partiers think that debt default is no big deal.

     

     

     

     

     

     



    Wanting and be able to and going through with it a very different things. Many on the left wanted to impeach Bush but didn't. 

     
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    It ends badly for the GOP



    It ends badly for the USA most likely!

    Its not about GOP vs DNC for everyone!




    What is bad for the USA is the modern day GOP ..... you can spin it anyway you want but at the end of the day the GOP looks bad after all this

     

     
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    Putin never would have let any of this happen....

     
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    Putin never would have let any of this happen....




    Of course not. He'd have everyone killed for disagreeing with him. Nice place, Russia.

     
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    1.  The president will concede something acceptable, and congress votes to raise the debt ceiling.

    2.  Boehner falls on his sword at the 11th hour and puts the debt ceiling to a vote and it passes.

    3.  With no deal, the president proudly and smartly invokes the 14th amendment to preserve the economic stability of the country......leading to his impeachment on a strictly party line vote.

    4.  Other



    UserName9,

     Which prediction do you think is the most likely to happen and why?

     



    3...I believe the president will order the government to pay its bills, and the crazed GOP House will impeach him, but the Senate has his back.  Once our credit and credibility are protected, we can safely ignore them and they can sit and stew in their own hatred.......until 2014 when it comes time to vote.



    What would be the grounds for impeachment? Invoking the 14th amendment isn't illegal is it?



    No, it isn't.

    Could it be that's what many in the gop/tp wants though...to impeach the prez...?

    After all, a large majority of polled tee partiers think that debt default is no big deal.

     

     

     

     

     

     



    Wanting and be able to and going through with it a very different things. Many on the left wanted to impeach Bush but didn't. 



    Very true.

    Some dems also wanted to suspend funds for the wars, too, but cooler heads prevailed rather quickly for their own sake as well as the military.  Not liking the wars was no reason to take it out on the soldiers, they reasoned.

    Honestly though, I'm not seeing a lot of cooler heads in the house majority's tee partee wing.  They took the drastic step and made hundreds of thousands of govt workers and corollated businesses suffer for two weeks while they made their demands.

    I don't believe that anything short of impeachment or resignation will satisfy the far right at this point.

     

     

     
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    Putin never would have let any of this happen....



    The RNC should hire him.

    His conservative credentials are impeccable.

     

     
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    1.  The president will concede something acceptable, and congress votes to raise the debt ceiling.

    2.  Boehner falls on his sword at the 11th hour and puts the debt ceiling to a vote and it passes.

    3.  With no deal, the president proudly and smartly invokes the 14th amendment to preserve the economic stability of the country......leading to his impeachment on a strictly party line vote.

    4.  Other



    UserName9,

     Which prediction do you think is the most likely to happen and why?

     



    3...I believe the president will order the government to pay its bills, and the crazed GOP House will impeach him, but the Senate has his back.  Once our credit and credibility are protected, we can safely ignore them and they can sit and stew in their own hatred.......until 2014 when it comes time to vote.



    What would be the grounds for impeachment? Invoking the 14th amendment isn't illegal is it?



    No, it isn't.

    Could it be that's what many in the gop/tp wants though...to impeach the prez...?

    After all, a large majority of polled tee partiers think that debt default is no big deal.

     

     

     

     

     

     



    Wanting and be able to and going through with it a very different things. Many on the left wanted to impeach Bush but didn't. 



    Very true.

    Some dems also wanted to suspend funds for the wars, too, but cooler heads prevailed rather quickly for their own sake as well as the military.  Not liking the wars was no reason to take it out on the soldiers, they reasoned.

    Honestly though, I'm not seeing a lot of cooler heads in the house majority's tee partee wing.  They took the drastic step and made hundreds of thousands of govt workers and corollated businesses suffer for two weeks while they made their demands.

    I don't believe that anything short of impeachment or resignation will satisfy the far right at this point.

     

     



    No doubt dems would have been devastated had Bush been impeached or resigned.....

     
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    I don't have a freakin clue anymore.

    The Dems removed the blue dogs to ensure they were unified, may be the GOP needs to remove the Tea Party members from anything relevant.  Yes they are representing their constituents but when you can't win and can only cause harm its time to choose another battle day.

     
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    1.  The president will concede something acceptable, and congress votes to raise the debt ceiling.

    2.  Boehner falls on his sword at the 11th hour and puts the debt ceiling to a vote and it passes.

    3.  With no deal, the president proudly and smartly invokes the 14th amendment to preserve the economic stability of the country......leading to his impeachment on a strictly party line vote.

    4.  Other



    UserName9,

     Which prediction do you think is the most likely to happen and why?

     



    3...I believe the president will order the government to pay its bills, and the crazed GOP House will impeach him, but the Senate has his back.  Once our credit and credibility are protected, we can safely ignore them and they can sit and stew in their own hatred.......until 2014 when it comes time to vote.



    What would be the grounds for impeachment? Invoking the 14th amendment isn't illegal is it?



    No, it isn't.

    Could it be that's what many in the gop/tp wants though...to impeach the prez...?

    After all, a large majority of polled tee partiers think that debt default is no big deal.

     

     

     

     

     

     



    Wanting and be able to and going through with it a very different things. Many on the left wanted to impeach Bush but didn't. 



    Very true.

    Some dems also wanted to suspend funds for the wars, too, but cooler heads prevailed rather quickly for their own sake as well as the military.  Not liking the wars was no reason to take it out on the soldiers, they reasoned.

    Honestly though, I'm not seeing a lot of cooler heads in the house majority's tee partee wing.  They took the drastic step and made hundreds of thousands of govt workers and corollated businesses suffer for two weeks while they made their demands.

    I don't believe that anything short of impeachment or resignation will satisfy the far right at this point.

     

     



    No doubt dems would have been devastated had Bush been impeached or resigned.....



    Some doubt.

    One of my biggest criticisms of Obama has been his refusal to prosecute the torturers (not necessarily Bush) in the name of "national unity".  I honestly think it will haunt him in the years to come.

     

     

     

     
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    1.  The president will concede something acceptable, and congress votes to raise the debt ceiling.

    2.  Boehner falls on his sword at the 11th hour and puts the debt ceiling to a vote and it passes.

    3.  With no deal, the president proudly and smartly invokes the 14th amendment to preserve the economic stability of the country......leading to his impeachment on a strictly party line vote.

    4.  Other



    UserName9,

     Which prediction do you think is the most likely to happen and why?

     



    3...I believe the president will order the government to pay its bills, and the crazed GOP House will impeach him, but the Senate has his back.  Once our credit and credibility are protected, we can safely ignore them and they can sit and stew in their own hatred.......until 2014 when it comes time to vote.



    What would be the grounds for impeachment? Invoking the 14th amendment isn't illegal is it?



    No, it isn't.

    Could it be that's what many in the gop/tp wants though...to impeach the prez...?

    After all, a large majority of polled tee partiers think that debt default is no big deal.

     

     

     

     

     

     



    Wanting and be able to and going through with it a very different things. Many on the left wanted to impeach Bush but didn't. 



    Very true.

    Some dems also wanted to suspend funds for the wars, too, but cooler heads prevailed rather quickly for their own sake as well as the military.  Not liking the wars was no reason to take it out on the soldiers, they reasoned.

    Honestly though, I'm not seeing a lot of cooler heads in the house majority's tee partee wing.  They took the drastic step and made hundreds of thousands of govt workers and corollated businesses suffer for two weeks while they made their demands.

    I don't believe that anything short of impeachment or resignation will satisfy the far right at this point.

     

     



    No doubt dems would have been devastated had Bush been impeached or resigned.....



    Some doubt.

    One of my biggest criticisms of Obama has been his refusal to prosecute the torturers (not necessarily Bush) in the name of "national unity".  I honestly think it will haunt him in the years to come.

     

     

     



    Oooookay....

     
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    The Dems removed the blue dogs to ensure they were unified, may be the GOP needs to remove the Tea Party members from anything relevant.  Yes they are representing their constituents but when you can't win and can only cause harm its time to choose another battle day.



    Not really.  The house blue dog dems were mostly replaced, re-districted or outfunded by repubs...some of whom are leading the current hootenanny in the house.

    I'm not convinced the gop could get rid of the tee partee even if they wanted to.  They can't lose that much of their base and still be competitive nationally.  They'll have to sink or swim with them for a another cycle or two, at least.

     

     

     
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     when you can't win and can only cause harm its time to choose another battle day.



    It sounds like they may end up doing that. I believe Cruz said he won't try to block a new senate deal that leaves the GOP with little to nothing more than an agreement to appoint negotiators from the House and Senate, to report back by Dec. 13 with a deficit reduction plan for the next 10 years.

     
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    1.  The president will concede something acceptable, and congress votes to raise the debt ceiling.

    2.  Boehner falls on his sword at the 11th hour and puts the debt ceiling to a vote and it passes.

    3.  With no deal, the president proudly and smartly invokes the 14th amendment to preserve the economic stability of the country......leading to his impeachment on a strictly party line vote.

    4.  Other



    UserName9,

     Which prediction do you think is the most likely to happen and why?

     



    3...I believe the president will order the government to pay its bills, and the crazed GOP House will impeach him, but the Senate has his back.  Once our credit and credibility are protected, we can safely ignore them and they can sit and stew in their own hatred.......until 2014 when it comes time to vote.



    Wrong agan!

     
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    The Dems removed the blue dogs to ensure they were unified, may be the GOP needs to remove the Tea Party members from anything relevant.  Yes they are representing their constituents but when you can't win and can only cause harm its time to choose another battle day.



    Not really.  The house blue dog dems were mostly replaced, re-districted or outfunded by repubs...some of whom are leading the current hootenanny in the house.

    I'm not convinced the gop could get rid of the tee partee even if they wanted to.  They can't lose that much of their base and still be competitive nationally.  They'll have to sink or swim with them for a another cycle or two, at least.

     



    Pssst. It is  not "tee" , it is "Tea" Party.  Oh, wait..you do it deliberately, as a pun. 

    Look out, Oscar Wilde and Winston Churchill, another brilliant rapier wit has appeared... 

     
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    The Dems removed the blue dogs to ensure they were unified, may be the GOP needs to remove the Tea Party members from anything relevant.  Yes they are representing their constituents but when you can't win and can only cause harm its time to choose another battle day.



    Not really.  The house blue dog dems were mostly replaced, re-districted or outfunded by repubs...some of whom are leading the current hootenanny in the house.

    I'm not convinced the gop could get rid of the tee partee even if they wanted to.  They can't lose that much of their base and still be competitive nationally.  They'll have to sink or swim with them for a another cycle or two, at least.

     



    Pssst. It is  not "tee" , it is "Tea" Party.  Oh, wait..you do it deliberately, as a pun. 

    Look out, Oscar Wilde and Winston Churchill, another brilliant rapier wit has appeared... 




    So, as Americans, we should all just stand by and let a bunch of know-nothings debase a piece of our country's collective history purely for partisan politics?

    Sorry, but those idiots deserve scorn and contempt for trying to hijack the shared American experience and twist it to fit their ideological ignorance.



    Generally those know-nothings are the ones we send into battle and have lived here for generations.

    Yes they are conservative and you may say to a fault, but they're just as entilted to their opinions if not more because they earned it, then the current crop of residents who are upset because the country's attitudes and mores aren't moving to the left quick enough for them.

     
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    The Dems removed the blue dogs to ensure they were unified, may be the GOP needs to remove the Tea Party members from anything relevant.  Yes they are representing their constituents but when you can't win and can only cause harm its time to choose another battle day.



    Not really.  The house blue dog dems were mostly replaced, re-districted or outfunded by repubs...some of whom are leading the current hootenanny in the house.

    I'm not convinced the gop could get rid of the tee partee even if they wanted to.  They can't lose that much of their base and still be competitive nationally.  They'll have to sink or swim with them for a another cycle or two, at least.

     



    Pssst. It is  not "tee" , it is "Tea" Party.  Oh, wait..you do it deliberately, as a pun. 

    Look out, Oscar Wilde and Winston Churchill, another brilliant rapier wit has appeared... 



    It's not a pun.

    I do it because there is no honest connection between the current crop of far rightists and the original 'boston tea party', although they might think there is.

    They're mostly frauds who fear losing, like howie said, the "old america".  This latest gambit is just another incoherent ramble in support of the party that nominated mitt romney, the godfather of obamacare.

    This whole fight has been about tactics, not policy.  How then to take them seriously?

     

     
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    I just got off the phone with a business owner (35 ee) and they need to layoff 14 employees due to the shutdown. They are losing billable hours (gov contractor) and those poor employees will not get back pay like the Gov employees will. Very sad.

    I think we get a part time deal.

     
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    I just got off the phone with a business owner (35 ee) and they need to layoff 14 employees due to the shutdown. They are losing billable hours (gov contractor) and those poor employees will not get back pay like the Gov employees will. Very sad.

    I think we get a part time deal.



    That's terrible.

    A bit surprising that two weeks pushed them to such extremes, but still terrible.  Hopefully, they can be hired back once govt business resumes.

    But according to most on the right, govt contractors are just "takers", so they deserve to be out of work.  Maybe the Jim DeMint and his Heritage Foundation can hire them.

    Now that house repubs have made their point and inflicted their pain, they can take the deal which gives them almsot nothing of what they variably demanded.

     

     

     

     
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