President Obama did not tell the IRS to harass conservatives

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    President Obama did not tell the IRS to harass conservatives

    He didnt need to, they already got the message.

    Red State:

    In 2009, the White House created an email address flag@whitehouse.gov and encouraged people to report their neighbors who might disagree with Obamacare. The DNC admitted the White House was engaged in collecting information on people.

    During August recesses in 2009, the Obama Adminstration told Democrats in Congress to “punch back twice as hard” at Republicans.

    In 2011, the Obama White House set up a ridiculous website called Attack Watch to document and expose those hostile to them.

    As I wrote in 2009, the Obama team brought back the politics of personal destruction. I noted then a Politico story that reported

    The vast new left-wing conspiracy sets its tone every morning at 8:45 a.m., when officials from more than 20 labor, environmental and other Democratic-leaning groups dial into a private conference call hosted by two left-leaning Washington organizations.

    In 2012, the White House directly coordinated with outside groups to influence the Supreme Court’s Obamacare decision. About the time these meetings with “dozens of leaders of nonprofit organizations” were happening in the White House, tea party groups were suddenly getting inquiries from the IRS, bogging them down and distracting them from the fight at hand.

    President Obama did not have to tell the IRS specifically to harass conservative, evangelical, and Jewish groups who might oppose him. His rhetoric on the campaign trail and in the permanent campaign of the White House operations made clear what he wanted. IRS agents not only harassed conservative groups, evangelical groups, and Jewish groups, but also leaked their confidential tax information to left-leaning groups. The National Organization for Marriage and other groups had their donor lists leaked subjecting those donors to harassment. A Romney donor was harassed by the IRS. More than one person has emailed me to say that after they reported themselves to flag@whitehouse.gov they were audited by the IRS — in one case audited several times about just one tax year.

    Obama went on the campaign trail in 2010 and told supporters to “punish our enemies.” The IRS did just that. The need for specificity or explicitness was unnecessary.

     
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    Obama went on the campaign trail in 2010 and told supporters to “punish our enemies.” The IRS did just that. The need for specificity or explicitness was unnecessary

    Plausable deniability. Sweet!

     

     
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    Also, Obama fired a guy who was leaving in june anyway. That's puttin the hammer down alright.

     

     

     
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    Re: President Obama did not tell the IRS to harass conservatives

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    Do you idiots really need 2 dozen seperate threads saying the same thing?

    And by the by...

    “Government reforms adopted after Watergate prohibit the White House from coordinating with the IRS to target citizens."  Rep. Steve Stockman, R-Texas



    Hahaha....so good to have you back Airborne! 

     
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    Re: President Obama did not tell the IRS to harass conservatives

    Despite how people feel about the IRS, the government ceases to function without their Accounts Receivable department doing their jobs.

    If the IRS is auditing on a partisan basis, obviously that's wrong and heads should roll.

    But the real scandal is the corrupt 72,000-page IRS code written by the rich and their lobbyists for the rich and their lobbyists.

    Why is it 72,000 pages long ? An honest IRS code should be ten or twenty pages long.

    Why should the IRS have to bother investigating fake 'social welfare' groups that are in fact very active political lobbyists ?

    Because no one else in elected government cares ! - Good for the IRS !

     
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    Re: President Obama did not tell the IRS to harass conservatives

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    I know this is going to cause you some head scratching, but that's what happens when you have 70 years of growing socialism.

     
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    Also, Obama fired a guy who was leaving in june anyway. That's puttin the hammer down alright.

     

     



    Well, it's not all bad.  He did let him keep his pension and bennies.

     
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    This is the most corrupt and partisan administration in modern times. Anyone who over looks these political scandals because they supported it are cowards and simply afraid to admit their mistake!!

     

     
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    Re: President Obama did not tell the IRS to harass conservatives

    In response to UserName99's comment:

    Despite how people feel about the IRS, the government ceases to function without their Accounts Receivable department doing their jobs.

    If the IRS is auditing on a partisan basis, obviously that's wrong and heads should roll.

    But the real scandal is the corrupt 72,000-page IRS code written by the rich and their lobbyists for the rich and their lobbyists.

    Why is it 72,000 pages long ? An honest IRS code should be ten or twenty pages long.

    Why should the IRS have to bother investigating fake 'social welfare' groups that are in fact very active political lobbyists ?

    Because no one else in elected government cares ! - Good for the IRS !



    I have a problem with the IRS having both collecting and enforcement powers.  If they have an enforcement problem, call in the FBI.

    But, that is hard when taxes have been individualized in terms of colelction and enforcement.  Maybe push the taxes higher up the food chain, include in products, etc.

    You can make tax systems that are easier to manage from enforcement as well.  Not saying I like all these, but, VAT, Flat tax, consumption taxes, are generally harder to beat.

    At the end of the day, I would like a federal tax system that does not take 77,000 pages, and armies of enforcers.

     
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    Since there are only two political appointees at the IRS and one is a Bush holdover, the neo-cons can rejoice in the fact that Obama has had to fire all his cronies in the department.

    I'll have to take your word for it since I personally don't personally know any neo-cons. You seem to be pretty familiar wiht them though, apparently they run around in your circles?

     

     
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    Re: President Obama did not tell the IRS to harass conservatives

    Obama said just 2 days ago the IRS was an "independent agency"!

    Why does he dare to fire anyone there?

     
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    Re: President Obama did not tell the IRS to harass conservatives

    The IRS is only "independent" when it comes to accountability.

     

     
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    I know this is going to cause you some head scratching, but that's what happens when you have 70 years of growing socialism.

     




    Yes, the progressives worship Government and cant grasp the concept that concentrating power in Washington giving bureaucrats more power,  leads to predictable abuse...

    Waiting for the inevitable progressive solution to the IRA scandal; create another government agency !

     
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    Obama is a disaster...voters are getting what they asked for....

     
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    Re: President Obama did not tell the IRS to harass conservatives

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

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    I know this is going to cause you some head scratching, but that's what happens when you have 70 years of growing socialism.

     

     




    Yes, the progressives worship Government and cant grasp the concept that concentrating power in Washington giving bureaucrats more power,  leads to predictable abuse...

     

    Waiting for the inevitable progressive solution to the IRA scandal; create another government agency !




    Patriot Act and Dept of Homeland Security are 2 great recent examples of progressives handing over predictable abuse power to Washington.  Shame on them.

     

     

     
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    Re: President Obama did not tell the IRS to harass conservatives

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    Obama is a disaster...voters are getting what they asked for....




    Even people who didnt ask for it are getting it!!

     
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    Re: President Obama did not tell the IRS to harass conservatives

    The point is:

    The WH was prohibited but, the investigation may show they did anyway.

    Of course not Obama since he has no knowlege of any WH operations.

     

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