Progressive Government Fails, Miserably

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    Progressive Government Fails, Miserably

    WSJ:

    A reader remarked last week that Barack Obama is running out of human shields. With the father of ObamaCare unavailable to explain the greatest fiasco of his presidency to Congress, the American people had to settle Wednesday for his surrogate, Kathleen Sebelius.

    Let us try to understand clearly what is happening now with the Obama presidency. On display to everyone watching this week is not merely the failure of a federal website or a software program or Ms. Sebelius's management skills. This is the failure of the very idea of progressive government. Not liberal government. Progressive government.

    That battle a few weeks ago over the government shutdown was a familiar Beltway spectacle. But what is happening this week to ObamaCare and the political class that created it is historic. Forty years from now, the millennials who in 2008 and 2012 believed in and voted for the progressive ideal—limitless, mandated, state-led goodness—can tell their grandchildren they watched it fall apart in 2013. This is the glitch that failed.

    In the 1990s, the American left, burdened with 90 years of unfortunate left-wing metaphors, rebranded itself in the U.S. as the "progressive movement." Teddy Roosevelt invokes cheerier memories than Leon Trotsky. In the 2008 U.S. presidential election, the left rode to power with Barack Obama.

    Mr. Obama is, without embarrassment, a man of the left. American progressives saw their win with Mr. Obama as the overthrowing of the postwar Democratic liberalism that culminated with the Clintons, a liberalism willing most of the time to coexist with markets, property and private enterprise. Progressives hated these accommodations. They were purer than that. He was purer than that. Together, they created ObamaCare.

    The essence of modern Democratic progressivism is: "You will participate in what we have created for you, and you will comply with the law's demands."

    Nothing could have been more crystal clear than the explanation for all the canceled insurance policies from the White House's Jay Carney, the bland face of progressive coercion: "What the president said and what everybody said all along is that there are going to be changes brought about by the Affordable Care Act to create minimum standards of coverage, minimum services that every insurance plan has to provide. So it's true that there are existing health-care plans on the individual market that don't meet those minimum standards and therefore do not qualify for the Affordable Care Act."

    If this White House and its progressive ecosystem have a political motto, it's this: Get over it.

    American progressivism is politics by cramdown. Ask Jamie Dimon. Ask the coal miners the EPA is putting out of business. Ask the union workers waiting for jobs on the Keystone XL pipeline. Ask Boeing BA in Your Value Your Change Short position in South Carolina or the harmless tea party groups from towns no one has ever heard of that were shut down by the IRS, or the 20,000 inner-city parents and students who marched across the Brooklyn Bridge to protest obliteration of their charter schools by New York's progressive mayoral candidate, Bill de Blasio.

    Barack Obama may have spent a lifetime failing up, but eventually it's just failure. He has presided over five years of sickly economic growth, inadequate job creation, a doubling of the food stamp population and now this—ObamaCare.

    Progressive government has failed in the U.S. Most fascinating to behold will be whether the Democratic presidential candidate who follows this meltdown will embrace it, fake it or move on.

     
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    tvoter beat you to the hate group meeting.

     

     

    http://boston.com/community/forums/news/politics/general/healthcaregov-discredits-liberalism/80/6860810

     
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    tvoter beat you to the hate group meeting.




    Yea to be critical of anything progressive is "hate".

    geez

     
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    tvoter beat you to the hate group meeting.




    Yea to be critical of anything progressive is "hate".

    geez




    No, it's "racist".

     

    Keep the party line straight. You wouldn't want to be a useless idiot, now would you?

     
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    if you need a reminder how the conservatives have failed our Nation don't look any further that the SCOTUS and some of their recent rulings .. ie....  Bush v Gore , Citizens United and overturning parts of the 1965 Voting Right Act

     
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    In response to tvoter's comment:

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    tvoter beat you to the hate group meeting.




    Yea to be critical of anything progressive is "hate".

    geez



    Well it is.  If you don't agree with them, they hate you.  Then they insult you.  then they call you racist.  They would kill you if they could, butr they will settle for cancelling the insurance plan you like, and forcing you to kiss the doctor you like good bye.

    What the progreessives don't get is that they have the same mentality as certain dictators from the last century. The attitude is:  there is a problem, and the way to solve the problem is to force certain people into doing something they don't want to do, for their own good, of course. 

    Last century, we called this fascism.

     
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    Well, if Obama's a failure, we can just wait for the next Republican president and block everything he tries to do.  We'll tell everybody we would do a better job, and if anybody brought up Obama, we'll pretend we never heard of him.

     

     
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    At least the progressives are attempting to govern.  They fall on their faces but still get points for trying.  Most americans agree.

    Most of the conservatives have abdicated that responsibility completely.  And all of the talk radio screeds and photo-op phony filibusters don't change that.  They would rather stand aside, gawk and avoid the heavy lifting necessary to achieve their goals (such as they are).

     

     

     
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    Yea to be critical of anything progressive is "hate".

    geez




    No, it's "racist".

    Keep the party line straight. You wouldn't want to be a useless idiot, now would you?




    No your postion here is safe.

 
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    At least the progressives are attempting to govern.  They fall on their faces but still get points for trying.  Most americans agree.

    Most of the conservatives have abdicated that responsibility completely.  And all of the talk radio screeds and photo-op phony filibusters don't change that.  They would rather stand aside, gawk and avoid the heavy lifting necessary to achieve their goals (such as they are).



    You call this governing? Not a high bar you have is it! Neither of the current parties in Washington care about governing.

     
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    At least the progressives are attempting to govern.  They fall on their faces but still get points for trying.  Most americans agree.

    Most of the conservatives have abdicated that responsibility completely.  And all of the talk radio screeds and photo-op phony filibusters don't change that.  They would rather stand aside, gawk and avoid the heavy lifting necessary to achieve their goals (such as they are).

     



    Exactly.  As a progressive, I favor government as an instrument to address our needs, not because I think it so good at what it does, but because I don't see any other options.

    Since the rich have all the money and they are convinced that they are wiser and more efficient than government, why aren't they out there solving our problems? Who is stopping them?

    The answer of course is that they have no interest in solving problems; they only want to make more money, which is fine but just admit it. The government at least wants to solve problems no matter how inept it might be at times.

     
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    At least the progressives are attempting to govern.  They fall on their faces but still get points for trying.  Most americans agree.

    Most of the conservatives have abdicated that responsibility completely.  And all of the talk radio screeds and photo-op phony filibusters don't change that.  They would rather stand aside, gawk and avoid the heavy lifting necessary to achieve their goals (such as they are).

     



    Exactly.  As a progressive, I favor government as an instrument to address our needs, not because I think it so good at what it does, but because I don't see any other options.

    Since the rich have all the money and they are convinced that they are wiser and more efficient than government, why aren't they out there solving our problems? Who is stopping them?

    The answer of course is that they have no interest in solving problems; they only want to make more money, which is fine but just admit it. The government at least wants to solve problems no matter how inept it might be at times.



    What a load of....

    What do you do to help solve our problems?

     
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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    At least the progressives are attempting to govern.  They fall on their faces but still get points for trying.  Most americans agree.

    Most of the conservatives have abdicated that responsibility completely.  And all of the talk radio screeds and photo-op phony filibusters don't change that.  They would rather stand aside, gawk and avoid the heavy lifting necessary to achieve their goals (such as they are).

     



    You call this governing? Not a high bar you have is it! Neither of the current parties in Washington care about governing.

     



    Yes, I do.  And yes, the bar is low - thanks to previous sessions - but so far only the majority of dems (and a lonely few repubs who will be primaried next year) are trying to raise it.

    Meanwhile, the gop is holding its breath and stamping its feet all while hemorrhaging nearly every demographic from its ranks due to its obstinacy.

     

     
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    Well, if Obama's a failure, we can just wait for the next Republican president and block everything he tries to do.  We'll tell everybody we would do a better job, and if anybody brought up Obama, we'll pretend we never heard of him.

     



    Sadly, the Republican presidents have been failures as well.  And the Democrats didn't exactly go along with Bush on everything, they only went along with the progressive things.

    As far as blocking everything Obama wants to do:  he had a veto-proof majority for two years, and this "healthcare program" is all he delivered.  I for one am glad everything else has been blocked.  Simply put, progressivism and big government do not work.  The have to be stopped before it's all gone.

     
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    In response to UserName9's comment:

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    At least the progressives are attempting to govern.  They fall on their faces but still get points for trying.  Most americans agree.

    Most of the conservatives have abdicated that responsibility completely.  And all of the talk radio screeds and photo-op phony filibusters don't change that.  They would rather stand aside, gawk and avoid the heavy lifting necessary to achieve their goals (such as they are).

     



    Exactly.  As a progressive, I favor government as an instrument to address our needs, not because I think it so good at what it does, but because I don't see any other options.

    Since the rich have all the money and they are convinced that they are wiser and more efficient than government, why aren't they out there solving our problems? Who is stopping them?

    The answer of course is that they have no interest in solving problems; they only want to make more money, which is fine but just admit it. The government at least wants to solve problems no matter how inept it might be at times.



    The rich are responsible for all your problems and Obama is going to solve all your problems.

    In the words of Yoda: That's why you fail.

     
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    during difficult times like this I think I to myself that i just need to...Lean Forward more!!!!!!

     
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    the government can create an environment that is conducive to job creation, everybody knows this and you know thats what Romney was saying..

    .....Obama creates an environment NOT conducive to jobs and Americans are suffering and their situations are getting worse...this is called Preogressivism...

    Lean Forward!!!

     
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    the government can create an environment that is conducive to job creation, everybody knows this and you know thats what Romney was saying..




    Lemme guess.  Lower taxes for job creators?

     
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    the government can create an environment that is conducive to job creation, everybody knows this and you know thats what Romney was saying..

     

    .....Obama creates an environment NOT conducive to jobs and Americans are suffering and their situations are getting worse...this is called Preogressivism...

    Lean Forward!!!




    Heh, heh, heh ... How's that parsing and spinning and equivocating working out for ya?

     

     




    the numbers dont lie....Obama is a total failure....and the part that irritates you the most is that we've been predicting every detail of it since he was elected......

     
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    Of course just spitting out crappe and calling it a sculpture isn't very convincing.



    I dunno. It works in most of their threads. For example, here is tvoter on Benghazi:

     

    http://media.philly.com/images/inflatablepoop-copy.jpg

     

     

    46&2 with one of his always helpful contributions:

    http://wac.9ebf.edgecastcdn.net/809EBF/ec-origin.chicago.barstoolsports.com/files/2012/09/poop-sand-sculpture-480x360.jpg

     

     

    CLC on libruls:

    http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-sy-101202-caganer-catalan-poop-christmas.photoblog900.jpg

     

     

    skeeter on "teh gays"

    http://www.woostercollective.com/images/2006/08/poop2.jpg

     

     

    And newman on socialist grandma killers:

     

    http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2448/3843794854_4dd25ce106_z.jpg

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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