Puppet Holder goes for the Texas jugular.

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    Puppet Holder goes for the Texas jugular.

    In another federal power grab..

    I thought the constitution defended states rights against the federal.

     

    Attorney General Eric Holder said Thursday the Justice Department will ask a San Antonio-based federal court to force Texas to get permission from the federal government before it can make any additional changes to its voting and election laws. 

    The challenge to Texas' authority comes after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down a portion of the Voting Rights Act. The high court’s 5-4 decision invalidated a rule that singled out certain states, like Texas and North Carolina, and forced them to get Justice Department approval before changing their election rules. 

    The Voting Rights Act was a major turning point in black Americans’ struggle for equal rights and political power. The court did not unravel the law itself, but questioned the validity of the allegedly outdated criteria used to select which states would be singled out. 



    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/25/ag-opens-new-front-on-voting-rights-protection/#ixzz2a4fGLdEF

     
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    I thought the constitution defended states rights against the federal.

     

    You thought wrong brohiem, the constitution is a living document (meaning that it says anything we want it to say.)

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    You're being pedantic, the constitution was written in clear language with the idea that it could be interpreted to apply to future unforeseen events. It doesn't need to be changed for this purpose.

    Ignoring or disregarding the clear language, however, is a completely different thing.

     

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    What other venues can the feds control states laws whether it be purely for political purposes... or not.

     
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    Photo ID requirements would not be discriminatory if they were easily obtained by all those whose wish to vote. However, that is far from being the case. It is well known that there is a vast difference in people's ability to go to locations providing voter ID's.

    If the right-wing was really serious about voter identification, they would implement a national program that ensures every citizen receive a government issued ID free of charge in their neighborhood.  Instead, they pretends a gun license is a valid voter ID while a university ID is invalid.

     
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    Re: Puppet Holder goes for the Texas jugular.

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    Photo ID requirements would not be discriminatory if they were easily obtained by all those whose wish to vote. However, that is far from being the case. It is well known that there is a vast difference in people's ability to go to locations providing voter ID's.

    If the right-wing was really serious about voter identification, they would implement a national program that ensures every citizen receive a government issued ID free of charge in their neighborhood.  Instead, they pretends a gun license is a valid voter ID while a university ID is invalid.



    Not sure it's up to the radical right wing to execute.

    The balls in Obamas and he just committed a flagrant offensive foul.

    State rights !  

     
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    The concept of a living constitution is one that necessarily changes as time goes on

    That's what amendments are for, also covered in the constitution.

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    What I don't hear is any defense that Holders move against the states is anything short of political.

     

     
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    If the right-wing was really serious about voter identification, they would implement a national program

    A. Pretty sure most states have free (or nearly free) id card programs that work equally well.

    B. Isn't that called a social security card?

     

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    Re: Puppet Holder goes for the Texas jugular.

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    If the right-wing was really serious about voter identification, they would implement a national program

     

     

    A. Pretty sure most states have free (or nearly free) id card programs that work equally well.

    B. Isn't that called a social security card?

     

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    SS cards can't be used for voter ID, no picture. Try again.

     




    Now there's a great idea ! SS picture IDs.

    Might actually help against fraud for voting AND getting benefits ILLEGALLY.

    Since Big Brother has such incredible and invasive computer powers it should be a cinch to secure.

    Send your idea to Senator Liawatha. After all she is fighting for the middle class.

     
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    The AG is just trying to use the court as a delaying mechanizm to stop Texas but, more importantly other states from requiring similiar ID requirements until after the next election in hopes of maintaining the senate for two more years.

    Nothing more imho

     
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    WDYWN, do we really need an amendment to help us decide whether or not a infrared scan of a house constitutes an illegal search? It seems pretty clear to me that any search of your home, regardless of the technology used, would require a search warrant. An infrared scan of a home for no particular reason would seem to me to be the very definition of unreasonable.

     

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    Re: Puppet Holder goes for the Texas jugular.

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    If the right-wing was really serious about voter identification, they would implement a national program that ensures every citizen receive a government issued ID free of charge in their neighborhood.  Instead, they pretends a gun license is a valid voter ID while a university ID is invalid.

     



    Gun license has expiration date whereas most college IDs do not. That is why gun license is considered valid and college ID isn't.

    When PA proposed Voter ID, college IDs that had expiration dates were acceptable forms of ID. 

    And why shouldn't a gun license be a valid ID for voting?

    Gun license has a picture, name, address, expiration date

    Drivers license has a picture, name, address, expiration date

     

     
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    getting benefits ILLEGALLY.

     



    lol.

    I'd expect to see tens or hundred of billions of waste going to that given all the noise, but usually all the evidence I see is a hundred people here, a hundred people there.

    Certainly, enough to call for more investigations, but also certainly not enough to justify the volume of the screaming.

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    The technology is available to search county, state and federal databases almost instantly.

    Why not just have anyone that doesnt have picture ID go to any govt facility DMV. Post Office, court house, etc and ask for a picture ID with nothing more than a name, date and place of birth, and a SS number.

    If they match and no ID has been issued, issue one for free!

     
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    Re: Puppet Holder goes for the Texas jugular.

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    It's interesting that the wingnuts are pushing for a nat'l ID... and with it the slippery slope of gov't tracking and abuse.

     



    Psst....govt ALREADY has ability of tracking

     
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    It's interesting that the wingnuts are pushing for a nat'l ID... and with it the slippery slope of gov't tracking and abuse.

     

     



    Psst....govt ALREADY has ability of tracking

     



    Tracjing yes.

    Ability to prove who is voting no.

    An electric bill is not enough in my mind to grant this right.

     
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    Re: Puppet Holder goes for the Texas jugular.

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    It's interesting that the wingnuts are pushing for a nat'l ID... and with it the slippery slope of gov't tracking and abuse.

     

     

     



    Psst....govt ALREADY has ability of tracking

     

     

     



    Tracjing yes.

     

    Ability to prove who is voting no.

    An electric bill is not enough in my mind to grant this right.



    You think the govt cares about who's voting no? What do you think they'll do...kill everyone who voted no?

     
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    Re: Puppet Holder goes for the Texas jugular.

    Here's the definition of "living constitution" that I'm working with:


    In a nutshell, the idea of the “living constitution” is that a constitution drafted in 1787 cannot possibly serve the needs of a twenty-first-century society. So it is incumbent on the courts to adapt the Constitution to modern conditions and changed values. Textualists and originalists object that this approach defeats the liberty-protecting, power-restraining purposes of the Constitution. How can we have the rule of law, they ask rhetorically, if judges are free to effectively amend the Constitution.

    http://www.hoover.org/publications/defining-ideas/article/114476


    My contention is that it can and does serve modern needs quite admirably and that a "living constitution" is intended to mean whatever the living constitutionalists want it to mean. In other words, "to hell with the rule of law, we know better."

     

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