R: "War on the Poor"

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    R: "War on the Poor"

    COLUMBUS, Ohio — In his grand Statehouse office beneath a bust of Lincoln, Gov. John R. Kasich let loose on fellow Republicans in Washington.

    “I’m concerned about the fact there seems to be a war on the poor,” he said, sitting at the head of a burnished table as members of his cabinet lingered after a meeting. “That if you’re poor, somehow you’re shiftless and lazy.”

    “You know what?” he said. “The very people who complain ought to ask their grandparents if they worked at the W.P.A.”

    Ever since Republicans in Congress shut down the federal government in an attempt to remove funding for President Obama’s health care law, Republican governors have been trying to distance themselves from Washington.

    Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin schooled lawmakers in a Washington Post opinion column midway through the 16-day shutdown on “What Wisconsin Can Teach Washington.” Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, with a record of bipartisan support at home, remarked after a visit to the nation’s capital, “If I was in the Senate right now, I’d kill myself.”

    But few have gone further than Mr. Kasich in critiquing his party’s views on poverty programs, and last week he circumvented his own Republican legislature and its Tea Party wing by using a little-known state board to expand Medicaid to 275,000 poor Ohioans under President Obama’s health care law.

    Once a leader of the conservative firebrands in Congress under Newt Gingrich in the 1990s, Mr. Kasich has surprised and disarmed some former critics on the left with his championing of Ohio’s disadvantaged, which he frames as a matter of Christian compassion.

    He embodies conventional Republican fiscal priorities — balancing the budget by cutting aid to local governments and education — but he defies many conservatives in believing government should ensure a strong social safety net. In his three years as governor, he has expanded programs for the mentally ill, fought the nursing home lobby to bring down Medicaid costs and backed Cleveland’s Democratic mayor, Frank Jackson, in raising local taxes to improve schools.

    To some Ohio analysts, those moves are a reaction to the humiliating defeat Mr. Kasich suffered in 2011 when voters in a statewide referendum overturned a law stripping public employees of bargaining rights. Before the vote, Mr. Kasich’s approval in this quintessential swing state plunged.

    Now, as the governor’s image has softened, his poll numbers have improved heading into a re-election race next year against the likely Democratic nominee, Ed FitzGerald, the executive of Cuyahoga County.

    He still angers many on the left; he signed a budget in June that cut revenues to local governments and mandates that women seeking an abortion listen to the fetal heartbeat. Democrats see his centrist swing as mere calculation, a prelude to a tough re-election fight.

    “This is someone who realized he had to get to the center and chose Medicaid as the issue,” said Danny Kanner, communications director of the Democratic Governors Association. “That doesn’t erase the first three years of his governorship when he pursued polices that rewarded the wealthy at the expense of the middle class.”

    Ohioans earning in the top 1 percent will see a $6,000 tax cut under the latest budget passed by the Republican-led legislature, while those in the bottom fifth will see a $12 increase, according to Policy Matters Ohio, an independent research group.

     

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/29/us/politics/ohio-governor-defies-gop-with-defense-of-social-safety-net.html?hpw&_r=0

     

     

     

     

     
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    In response to tvoter's comment:

    lol another partisan snippet post from the non partisan.........

    sigh



    1. Thanks for flattering by imitating recently used mannerisms.

    2. The Republican Governor of Ohio is not "non partisan", by definition.

    3. And you don't copy/paste articles or portions thereof? Or lately, just post a link?

     

     

     

    Or are you trying to fill pinkie's shoes? Dull empty harassment. And so on.

     
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    Re: R:

    To anyone who's been paying attention:

    What else is new...?

     

    Kasich is trying to do right by his entire constituency.  

     

    Some other govs should do the same by expanding care options for their populations...

    ...and perhaps not forcefully take away health care services for people (i.e., women in texas) who really want and need them.

     
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    The NYT's took snippets from a speech to make it look like he turned against republicans.

    He did not like the shutdown, I did not either but, I understand they were trying to support their constituency and I respect that.

    Some politicians were getting millions of signatures on signed petitions and phone calls, emails etc telling them "do what we elected you for". And so they tried!

    I cannot fault them for trying to stop this obvious debacle and I think when looking back they will be applauded for trying!

     
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    The NYT's took snippets from a speech to make it look like he turned against republicans.


    That's your dodge?

    When have you EVER posted an article that reprints a speech vertabim before discussing it?

    Just go away you irrelevant little tool.

     
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    The insufferably liberal New York Times predictably rewarding a Republican who strays from the reservation, with a somewhat-flattering profile.....The Times will reward you with Jon Huntsman-like hero worship, the further you stray from conservatism.

    Kasich is a deep thinker and like many independent-minded Republicans is not afraid to diss his own Party, unlike the brain-dead lemming Democrats of the Party of Failed Government....

    Policy Matters Ohio, an independent research group...."  LOL....conservative groups are labelled, but there is no such thing as a progressive advocacy group to the NY Times. "Independent", my foot.

    "He embodies conventional Republican fiscal priorities — balancing the budget by cutting aid to local governments and education... " 

    Nice negative spin on Republican policy there...to the insufferably liberal NY Times, it is all about the dollar amounts spent and wasted, not reform or actual results...

    Ohio Gov John Kasich if he wins reelection, will be in the top tier for President in 2016, if he wants to run.

     

     

     

     

     
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    The insufferably liberal New York Times predictably rewarding a Republican who strays from the reservation, with a somewhat-flattering profile.....The Times will reward you with Jon Huntsman-like hero worship, the further you stray from conservatism.

    Kasich is a deep thinker and like many independent-minded Republicans is not afraid to diss his own Party, unlike the brain-dead lemming Democrats of the Party of Failed Government....

    Nice negative spin on Republican policy there...to the insufferably liberal NY Times, it is all about the dollar amounts spent and wasted, not reform or actual results...



    The hatred is strong with this one.

     
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    Re: R:

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    To anyone who's been paying attention:

    What else is new...?

     

    Kasich is trying to do right by his entire constituency.  

     

    Some other govs should do the same by expanding care options for their populations...

    ...and perhaps not forcefully take away health care services for people (i.e., women in texas) who really want and need them.



    Yes, more Obamacare is what we all need. The Government will provide for us all.

     
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    In response to tvoter's comment:

    oh, did you get your feelings hurt little boy...LMCAO!!

     



    Ah, maturity.

    You could have admitted that you were in the wrong, but I guess that would take a bigger person.

     
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    Re: R:

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    To anyone who's been paying attention:

    What else is new...?

     

    Kasich is trying to do right by his entire constituency.  

     

    Some other govs should do the same by expanding care options for their populations...

    ...and perhaps not forcefully take away health care services for people (i.e., women in texas) who really want and need them.



    Yes, more Obamacare is what we all need. 



    Apparently, it is...given that conservatism has utterly failed to deal with the problem in any constructive way.

    Again, re: texas...why do conservatives want people to have less health care...??

     

     
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    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:

    Who freakin keeps reporting posts?

    Knock it off!!!



    Must be the Obama Admnistration's NSA, they monitor all communications !

     
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    Yes, more Obamacare is what we all need. 



    Apparently, it is...given that conservatism has utterly failed to deal with the problem in any constructive way.

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    lol Conservatives were completely blocked out of even debate on this bill/law!

     
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    Re: R:

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    To anyone who's been paying attention:

    What else is new...?

     

    Kasich is trying to do right by his entire constituency.  

     

    Some other govs should do the same by expanding care options for their populations...

    ...and perhaps not forcefully take away health care services for people (i.e., women in texas) who really want and need them.



    Yes, more Obamacare is what we all need. 



    Apparently, it is...given that conservatism has utterly failed to deal with the problem in any constructive way.

    Again, re: texas...why do conservatives want people to have less health care...??

     

    Good health care means minimum regulations need be followed to ensure safety, and a minimum of informed consent be given to the patient.

    Abortions are a serious medical procedure...ask the victims of the unregulated Dr. Gosnell....

    So why do Wendy Davis and other abortion zealots want to risk women's health by not allowing minimum medical regulations to ensure safety?

     

     
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    Re: R:

    In response to NowWhatDoYouWant's comment:

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    oh, did you get your feelings hurt little boy...LMCAO!!

     

     



    Ah, maturity.

    You could have admitted that you were in the wrong, but I guess that would take a bigger person.



    Says the guy who's posted pics of excrement.....quite the example of maturity!

     
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    Re: R:

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    To anyone who's been paying attention:

    What else is new...?

     

    Kasich is trying to do right by his entire constituency.  

     

    Some other govs should do the same by expanding care options for their populations...

    ...and perhaps not forcefully take away health care services for people (i.e., women in texas) who really want and need them.



    Yes, more Obamacare is what we all need. 



    Apparently, it is...given that conservatism has utterly failed to deal with the problem in any constructive way.

    Again, re: texas...why do conservatives want people to have less health care...??

     

    Good health care means minimum regulations need be followed to ensure safety, and a minimum of informed consent be given to the patient.

    Abortions are a serious medical procedure...ask the victims of the unregulated Dr. Gosnell....

    So why do Wendy Davis and other abortion zealots want to risk women's health by not allowing minimum medical regulations to ensure safety?

     



    Nice dodge and strawman, but these are not 'minimum regulations' in the slightest.  Both the intent and goal of the new regulations - declared unconstitutional in court, btw - only serve to deny women all over the state access to abortion services.

    What good are standards of care if nobody's there to administer the care in the first place? 

    And in a state where as many as 6.3 million people - over 25% of the population - are uninsured, it seems that texans need all the health care they can get...not less.

     

     
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    Kasich has a mentally ill brother, so the medicaid expansion is driven by his personal experience.  Its well documented that conservatives show empathy for the less fortunate when it hits home for them. 

    Its perfectly fine (and approved by Jesus) to not showing empathy for strangers.

     
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    Kasich has a mentally ill brother, so the medicaid expansion is driven by his personal experience.  Its well documented that conservatives show empathy for the less fortunate when it hits home for them. 

    Its perfectly fine (and approved by Jesus) to not showing empathy for strangers.




    It is well documented that liberals show empathy by spending other people's money, and not their own.

     
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