Reagan Remembered: The Failed Legacy of Our First Corporate Politician

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    Reagan Remembered: The Failed Legacy of Our First Corporate Politician

    http://ourfuture.org/20140207/reagan-remembered-the-failed-legacy-of-our-first-corporate-politician

     
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    Why would one ever listen to this marxist organization that posted this, or this author, a marxist?

     
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    Why would one ever listen to this marxist organization that posted this, or this author, a marxist?

     



    You seem to use terms quite often that you don't understand.

     
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    History will not be kind to him

     
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    From the article:

    Reagan, who would mock “special interests” in his first inaugural speech, then became a spokesperson for one of the most powerful of them – doctors. He deployed scare tactics, hard-right imagery and merciless Red-baiting in a failed attempt to defeat Medicare. That program, along with Social Security, is one of the most successful and popular government programs in American history.

    Clearly the author is an idiot. Medicare - the great insurance plan fro 65+ Americans. They take your money for 45 years and give you NOTHING, NOT ONE CLAIM CAN YOU MAKE. Then when you turn 65, YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT to get benefits and most people have to BUY A SUPPLEMENTAL PLAN.

    Yeah that is FABULOUS! Such a DEAL!

    Then Social Security - Bernie Madoff could not perfect such a Ponzi Scheme. No need to read any more of that clueless drivel from an idiot about Reagan.

    Full Definition of MARXISM :  the political, economic, and social principles and policies advocated by Marx; especially :  a theory and practice of socialism including the labor theory of value, dialectical materialism, the class struggle, and dictatorship of the proletariat until the establishment of a classless society   Pretty much on target for the moron that wrote this article
     
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    From the article:

    Reagan, who would mock “special interests” in his first inaugural speech, then became a spokesperson for one of the most powerful of them – doctors. He deployed scare tactics, hard-right imagery and merciless Red-baiting in a failed attempt to defeat Medicare. That program, along with Social Security, is one of the most successful and popular government programs in American history.

    Clearly the author is an idiot. Medicare - the great insurance plan fro 65+ Americans. They take your money for 45 years and give you NOTHING, NOT ONE CLAIM CAN YOU MAKE. Then when you turn 65, YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT to get benefits and most people have to BUY A SUPPLEMENTAL PLAN.

    Yeah that is FABULOUS! Such a DEAL!

    Then Social Security - Bernie Madoff could not perfect such a Ponzi Scheme. No need to read any more of that clueless drivel from an idiot about Reagan.

    Full Definition of MARXISM :  the political, economic, and social principles and policies advocated by Marx; especially :  a theory and practice of socialism including the labor theory of value, dialectical materialism, the class struggle, and dictatorship of the proletariat until the establishment of a classless society   Pretty much on target for the moron that wrote this article




    It's a better plan than anything the GOP has come up with for senior citizens. Reagan was senile and should have been impeached.

     
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    British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, his staunch ally, wrote that Reagan had "achieved the most difficult of all political tasks: changing attitudes and perceptions about what is possible. From the strong fortress of his convictions, he set out to enlarge freedom the world over at a time when freedom was in retreat—and he succeeded."

    Simply and undeniably, Reagan won the Cold War...

    Now that the Cold War has been won, liberals, amazingly, are proud to claim credit for the victory -- conveniently forgetting their apologies for the Communists and their spluttering attacks on Cold Warriors like Ronald Reagan...

     
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    Human Events:

    Fourteen and a half million Americans are today out of work because the federal government followed the policies of Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid rather than Ronald Reagan. But if this recovery had been as robust as the one Reagan oversaw beginning in November, 1982—if it had grown an average of 4 percent a year rather than only 2 percent a year there would be millions more Americans at work today.

    Reagan cut income tax rates across the board for all Americans. He expanded 401(k) accounts and IRAs so Americans could save for their retirement. He indexed the federal income tax code so the government would no longer “profit” from inflation that it created. He reduced federal spending from what Jimmy Carter had planned.  The federal government stopped printing so much money, and inflation — which had run at 13.6 percent in 1980 and 10.4 percent in 1981 — fell to 4.3 percent by 1984.  He worked to de-regulate airlines, railroads, and bus travel, saving American consumers billions.

    Less regulation, reducing the growth of government spending, lower tax rates and a stable currency led to a recovery that created 3 million jobs in the first year. In his first year of “recovery” Obama’s policies created a net loss of 201,000 jobs. In the second year of recovery Reagan’s policies created another 4.1 million jobs, Obama only 1.4 million.  In years three Reagan created 9.7 million jobs and Obama 3 million.

    It has now been three years and seven months since the recovery began in July 2009 and Obama’s policies have created 3.86 million jobs. In the same time – from November 1982 to November, 1985—with the American population having fully 77 million fewer people than at present, the Reagan economic policies created 9.6 million jobs. The economy grew 8.9 percent in that time under Obama and 18.5 percent with Reagan.

    Obama faced a recession when he was elected. What did he do? He immediately had the federal government spend $1 trillion in stimulus spending. He raised 20 taxes in Obamacare.  He piled new regulations on energy, and stopped new jobs by shutting down possible drilling in Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico. He added a new entitlement spending program—Obamacare—without reforming any existing programs.

    Under Reagan, lower taxes, reducing the growth of government spending, a stable currency and less regulation created 9.6 million jobs and increased the economy by 18.5 percent.

    Obama’s policies of more taxes, more spending, more regulation and loose monetary policies have led to 5.7 million fewer jobs than Reagan created and an economy with growth nearly 50 percent smaller than it could have been.

     
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    Feb. 6, 2013 would have been Reagan’s 102nd birthday. His leadership turned our country around in a dark time. He didn’t whine or blame the president before him. He followed sound economic policies that worked for John F. Kennedy and Calvin Coolidge before him. He learned from the past and avoided the policies of Hoover and FDR that took a recession and turned it into the Great Depression.

    On Reagan’s birthday, let us hope that President Barack Obama takes a few moments off from blaming his failed economy on others and instead looks to recent history to see what success looks like.

     

     
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    British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, his staunch ally, wrote that Reagan had "achieved the most difficult of all political tasks: changing attitudes and perceptions about what is possible. From the strong fortress of his convictions, he set out to enlarge freedom the world over at a time when freedom was in retreat—and he succeeded."

    Simply and undeniably, Reagan won the Cold War...

    Now that the Cold War has been won, liberals, amazingly, are proud to claim credit for the victory -- conveniently forgetting their apologies for the Communists and their spluttering attacks on Cold Warriors like Ronald Reagan...



    Afghanistan won the cold war. The Russians wasted a rediculous amount of resources trying to occupy that clustersf(_)ck of a nation. 

     
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    The Cold War was coming to an end during the 80's .... the only thing that Reagan help tear down was our Middle Class plus high tailing it out of Beirut when the 1st Bn of the 8th Marines were murdered in 1983 ....

     

    Semper Fi

     
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    The liberal fallacy - that the Soviet Union was going to collapse on its own anyway.

    Yeah, the fact that Reagan did not accept the status quo of MAD had nothing to do with it. The Soviets would have done whatever they did anyway. Those missiles deployed in Europe over the objections of limp-wristed traitors like John Kerry had nothing to do with it. Trying to keep up with Star Wars had nothing to do with it.

    It was the liberal icon Mikail Gorbachev that did it all.

     
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    Simply and undeniably, Reagan won the Cold War...




     

    Nobody was doing anything in the Cold War from 1945- 1/20/81?


    Nothing inherent in totalitarianism in a centralized economy, and nothing about Russia's own actions, hurt Russia in any way?

     

     

     

    What a joke.

     
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    Though they now claim that they were “cold warriors” all along, what exactly were reporters telling us about the Soviet Union during the 1970s and 1980s?

    In 1986, CNN’s Moscow correspondent Stuart Loory said: “If suddenly a true two-party or multi-party state were to be formed in the Soviet Union, the Communist Party would still win in a free election. Except for certain pockets of resistance to the Communist regime, the people have been truly converted.” CBS’s Bruce Morton explained: “People were happy. All of these services are part of an explicit bargain the Soviet workers have made with their government. They are less free than workers in the West but more secure.” ABC reporter Walter Rodgers explained: “Many Soviets don’t want Western style human rights which they tend to equate with anarchy.” And Dan Rather agreed saying: “Despite what many Americans think, most Soviets do not yearn for capitalism or Western style democracy.”

    Moreover, when the Soviets pushed their advantage during the decade of the 1970s and took 13 new nations into the Communist orbit, Carter’s Ambassador to the UN, Andrew Young, explained: “Soviets naturally emphasized economic rights because their growing season was so short.” “As for Cuban troops in Africa,” he said, “I don’t believe Cuba is in Africa because it was ordered there by the Russians. I believe that Cuba is in Africa because it really has shared in a sense of colonial oppression and domination. Besides,” he said, “these troops brought a certain stability and order to Angola.”

     

     
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    One of the most celebrated heroes of American history, Charles Lindbergh, saw his reputation shredded due to his failure to perceive the monumental evil of Nazism. Yet American liberals who committed the identical sin vis-a-vis the Communists — and demonstrate in ways small and large on an almost daily basis that they still do not get it — have paid no price in credibility for their appalling judgement.”

    Great Liberal Cold Warriors would make for a very short book.” --Mona Charon

     
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    Liberals were for unconditional surrender in the Cold War.

    Phil Donahue was a leading liberal in the 1980s: 

    "Let's fight communism that way. Let's make America work. You and the Reagan ideologues have spent us into oblivion -- our children are going to have to pay this bill -- and you step forward, like some religious figure saying, 'more bombs, more bullets, let's get the beachhead!' Now the beachhead, as, like, Managua's a beachhead like World War II. You're living like in an old '40's movie..."

     
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    Human Events:

    Fourteen and a half million Americans are today out of work because the federal government followed the policies of Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid rather than Ronald Reagan. But if this recovery had been as robust as the one Reagan oversaw beginning in November, 1982—if it had grown an average of 4 percent a year rather than only 2 percent a year there would be millions more Americans at work today.

    Reagan cut income tax rates across the board for all Americans. He expanded 401(k) accounts and IRAs so Americans could save for their retirement. He indexed the federal income tax code so the government would no longer “profit” from inflation that it created. He reduced federal spending from what Jimmy Carter had planned.  The federal government stopped printing so much money, and inflation — which had run at 13.6 percent in 1980 and 10.4 percent in 1981 — fell to 4.3 percent by 1984.  He worked to de-regulate airlines, railroads, and bus travel, saving American consumers billions.

    Less regulation, reducing the growth of government spending, lower tax rates and a stable currency led to a recovery that created 3 million jobs in the first year. In his first year of “recovery” Obama’s policies created a net loss of 201,000 jobs. In the second year of recovery Reagan’s policies created another 4.1 million jobs, Obama only 1.4 million.  In years three Reagan created 9.7 million jobs and Obama 3 million.

    It has now been three years and seven months since the recovery began in July 2009 and Obama’s policies have created 3.86 million jobs. In the same time – from November 1982 to November, 1985—with the American population having fully 77 million fewer people than at present, the Reagan economic policies created 9.6 million jobs. The economy grew 8.9 percent in that time under Obama and 18.5 percent with Reagan.

    Obama faced a recession when he was elected. What did he do? He immediately had the federal government spend $1 trillion in stimulus spending. He raised 20 taxes in Obamacare.  He piled new regulations on energy, and stopped new jobs by shutting down possible drilling in Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico. He added a new entitlement spending program—Obamacare—without reforming any existing programs.

    Under Reagan, lower taxes, reducing the growth of government spending, a stable currency and less regulation created 9.6 million jobs and increased the economy by 18.5 percent.

    Obama’s policies of more taxes, more spending, more regulation and loose monetary policies have led to 5.7 million fewer jobs than Reagan created and an economy with growth nearly 50 percent smaller than it could have been.



    This post is one lie after another.

    Reagan did not take office in November, 1982, and he did not cut taxes in November, 1982.  He cut taxes in August, 1981, when unemployment was 7.4%.  But unemployment immediately sky-rocketed.  He RAISED taxes in November, 1982, when the recovery began. We wouldn't see 7.4% again until 1984!

    So Reagan takes office and 8 months later we have a recession.  A year and a half later, the unemployment is the worst since the great depression, so that's when you start the clock for the Reagan recovery.  Obama takes office in a month when we are losing 800K jobs, so his clock starts right away?

    It was Carter who de-regulated the airlines and railroads in 78 and 80 respectively.

    It was Carter who kept the federal funds rate high to fight inflation, and it was the drop in the federal funds rate that spurred the 'Reagan Recovery'.  What was the federal funds rate when Obama took office?  0%.

    Government spending increased dramatically under Reagan.

    The Obama stimulus was largely tax cuts, and there would be no Obamacare 'taxes' for four more years.

    Really - it's one lie after another.  It's embarrassing.

     
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    Liberals were for unconditional surrender in the Cold War.

    Phil Donahue was a leading liberal in the 1980s: 

    "Let's fight communism that way. Let's make America work. You and the Reagan ideologues have spent us into oblivion -- our children are going to have to pay this bill -- and you step forward, like some religious figure saying, 'more bombs, more bullets, let's get the beachhead!' Now the beachhead, as, like, Managua's a beachhead like World War II. You're living like in an old '40's movie..."



    Surrender to what?  Walk me through a scenario where if we don't stock-pile nuclear weapons in the 1980s America succumbs to the red menace?

     

     
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    History will not be kind to him



    And he earned it by being a lousy president.

     
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    Simply and undeniably, Reagan won the Cold War...

     




     

     

    Nobody was doing anything in the Cold War from 1945- 1/20/81?


    Nothing inherent in totalitarianism in a centralized economy, and nothing about Russia's own actions, hurt Russia in any way?

     

     

     

    What a joke.



    From 1945 to 1981 we accepted living with Mutual Assured Destruction. So no, no one really did anything about the Cold War other than to maintain the stalemate and the status quo. In fact politicians of your stripe got upset with Reagan's attempts to win the Cold War by instituting a missile defense system and putting missiles in Europe.

    The Soviet Union had been centralized and totalitarian since 1917. If that was the cause why did it just happen to break up after Reagan refused to accept living under MAD and made a concerted effort to win the cold war instead of living under a constant threat of mutual anihilation?

    Your hatred clouds your judgement.

     

     
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    History will not be kind to him



    And he earned it by being a lousy president.



    His biggest mistake was ignoring the deficit while increasing the military budget to defeat the Soviet Union.

    YOu idiots would rather have the Soviet Union still around to keep US in check because of your self-loathing attitudes.

    The lesson in lousy Presidents is being taught by the current occupant. The only thing he has done right so far was to approve the shooting of that Somalian pirate.

     
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    History will not be kind to him



    And he earned it by being a lousy president.



    His biggest mistake was ignoring the deficit while increasing the military budget to defeat the Soviet Union.

    YOu idiots would rather have the Soviet Union still around to keep US in check because of your self-loathing attitudes.

    The lesson in lousy Presidents is being taught by the current occupant. The only thing he has done right so far was to approve the shooting of that Somalian pirate.



    The Soviet Union collapsed due to internal conditions, chief among them the dis-satisfaction of the people.  Billy Joel did more to end the cold war than Ronald Reagan did.

    There were plenty of mistakes.  Iran-Contra, backing Saddam Hussein, Beirut, doubling the national debt, being the first president in 50 years to leave office with a deficit greater than entering, the S&L crisis.  

     
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    History will not be kind to him



    And he earned it by being a lousy president.



    His biggest mistake was ignoring the deficit while increasing the military budget to defeat the Soviet Union.

    YOu idiots would rather have the Soviet Union still around to keep US in check because of your self-loathing attitudes.

    The lesson in lousy Presidents is being taught by the current occupant. The only thing he has done right so far was to approve the shooting of that Somalian pirate.




    Historians will tell us if Obama's Presidency was a failure or not not the likes of you .... 

    As for Reagan the only thing that you can give Reagan any credit for was telling the big lie ....

     

     
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