REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE.

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    In Response to Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE. : Right...he suggested that Romney hasn't paid Fed taxes in 10 years. So you agree now? Good...there's hope for you yet.
    Posted by WhichOnesPink2


    Right...Reid never suggested it was illegal for Mittens not to pay taxes.

     
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    In Response to Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE. : The fact that you equate those two thing is just another exhibit of your disingenuousness on these kinds of issues. They're not even close to the same thing.
    Posted by MattyScornD


    ...and you realize that that is just your opinion.
     
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    suggest; refer somebody or something for consideration: to propose somebody or something as a possible choice, plan, or course of action for somebody else to consider
     
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    Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE.

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    Posted by 12-Angry-Men


    Hahahaha...who is saying he did? Try to pay attention to what is posted and not what you THINK is being posted. Reid stated that Romney hasn't paid taxes in 10 years and offered up ZERO proof of this accusation. That is just wrong!
     
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    Posted by 12-Angry-Men



    From Reid's Huff Puff

    "Harry, he didn't pay any taxes for 10 years," Reid recounted the person as saying.

    Harry Reid recounted (as a matter of fact, not suggested) a statement made by an unnamed Bain Investor that he was told...."Harry, he didn't pay any taxes for 10 years,"
     
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    Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE.

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    Posted by massmoderateJoe


    If you think so, but both logically and materially, they are not equivalent.  The comparison makes no sense.

    From a purely cultural perspective, there are reasons why the accusations about POTUS' birth are much more sinister and malicious than those of Sen. Reid.

    Different ballparks, different games.



     
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    In Response to Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE. : Hahahaha...who is saying he did? Try to pay attention to what is posted and not what you THINK is being posted. Reid stated that Romney hasn't paid taxes in 10 years and offered up ZERO proof of this accusation. That is just wrong!
    Posted by WhichOnesPink2


    Sooo, Reid didn't suggest that Mittens broke any laws so why are the wingnuts in a tizzy?

     
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    suggest; refer somebody or something for consideration: to propose somebody or something as a possible choice, plan, or course of action for somebody else to consider
    Posted by 12-Angry-Men


    Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) didn't back down Wednesday from his accusation, made in an interview with The Huffington Post, that he heard that Mitt Romney didn't pay taxes for a decade.

     

    Hmmm...seem reporters also think it was an accusation and not "speculation". 

     
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    In Response to Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE. : From Reid's Huff Puff "Harry, he didn't pay any taxes for 10 years," Reid recounted the person as saying. Harry Reid recounted (as a matter of fact, not suggested) a statement made by an unnamed Bain Investor that he was told.... "Harry, he didn't pay any taxes for 10 years,"
    Posted by massmoderateJoe


    Again, Reid didn't suggest Mittens broke the law.
    Reid 'recounted' a conversation he had with someone.

    Are you suggesting that conversation never took place?
     
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    In Response to Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE. : Sooo, Reid didn't suggest that Mittens broke any laws so why are the wingnuts in a tizzy?
    Posted by 12-Angry-Men


    My god you're an imbecile. He's accusing him of something with ZERO proof. So you'd be ok with someone accusing you of something without showing proof of what they were accusing you of?
     
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    This is amusing.

    The Dems have taken a page right out of the wingnut playbook and now the wingnuts have their panties in a bunch.

    And Reid's speculation is nowhere near as abhorent as the wingnut's attacks on Kerry's war service or their speculation about Obama and his birthplace or religion or political views.

    True, two wrongs don't make a right but when the birther issue is still being pushed by current wingnuts in Congress or when they accuse administration officials of being spies for terrorists or when they state that there are 81 communist members in the Dem party, then all bets are off.


    This is highly entertaining.
     
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    In Response to Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE. : My god you're an imbecile. He's accusing him of something with ZERO proof. So you'd be ok with someone accusing you of something without showing proof of what they were accusing you of?
    Posted by WhichOnesPink2


    If I had in my possesion the official documentation to prove them wrong, then no, I wouldn't be worried about it.

    I would release the documents and prove them wrong.
    But that's just me.
     
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    In Response to Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE. : If you think so, but both logically and materially, they are not equivalent.  The comparison makes no sense. From a purely cultural perspective, there are reasons why the accusations about POTUS' birth are much more sinister and malicious than those of Sen. Reid. Different ballparks, different games.
    Posted by MattyScornD


    So let's get this straight; its OK for the Senate Pro Tem to repeat unsubstantiated statements that Romney paid no taxes for 10 yrs (without stating it was illegal) all to sully his reputation and build a case that Romney is Gordon Gecko supporting the Dems class warfare platform.  Remember Romney did release his recent tax records, now they want more well you only have to keep your last 7 years.  So this ten year period appears to have ended 10 years ago.

    But it not OK to have someone running for the President of the United States to prove he's a citizen.  I believe it should be an obligation to prove you're a legal citizen meeting the requiremnets of the office.  The President could have made this go away in 2008 but it didn't suit his narrative at the time.  The President did finally prove it 3 years after it was asked for by releasing his long form, because an idiot with strange hair got the medias attention, so this is done.
     
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    Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE.

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    In Response to Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE. : So let's get this straight; its OK for the Senate Pro Tem to repeat unsubstantiated statements that Romney paid no taxes for 10 yrs (without stating it was illegal) all to sully his reputation and build a case that Romney is Gordon Gecko supporting the Dems class warfare platform.  Remember Romney did release his recent tax records, now they want more well you only have to keep your last 7 years.  So this ten year period appears to have ended 10 years ago. But it not OK to have someone running for the President of the United States to prove he's a citizen.  I believe it should be an obligation to prove you're a legal citizen meeting the requiremnets of the office.  The President could have made this go away in 2008 but it didn't suit his narrative at the time.  The President did finally prove it 3 years after it was asked for by releasing his long form, because an idiot with strange hair got the medias attention, so this is done.
    Posted by massmoderateJoe


    Now your just posting figments of your imagination in an attempt to rewrite history to conform to your ideology.

    Belief in the conspiracy theories has persisted despite Obama's pre-election release of his official birth certificate from Hawaii in 2008, additional confirmation by the Hawaii Department of Health based on the original documents.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birther_movement
     
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    Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE.

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    In Response to Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE. : So let's get this straight; its OK for the Senate Pro Tem to repeat unsubstantiated statements that Romney paid no taxes for 10 yrs (without stating it was illegal) all to sully his reputation and build a case that Romney is Gordon Gecko supporting the Dems class warfare platform.  Remember Romney did release his recent tax records, now they want more well you only have to keep your last 7 years.  So this ten year period appears to have ended 10 years ago. But it not OK to have someone running for the President of the United States to prove he's a citizen.  I believe it should be an obligation to prove you're a legal citizen meeting the requiremnets of the office.  The President could have made this go away in 2008 but it didn't suit his narrative at the time.  The President did finally prove it 3 years after it was asked for by releasing his long form, because an idiot with strange hair got the medias attention, so this is done.
    Posted by massmoderateJoe


    He did prove he's a US citizen born in the good ol USA.  He did it on multiple occassions and some still question it.
     
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    Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE.

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    In Response to Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE. : Hahaha...you're full of sh!t. 
    Posted by WhichOnesPink2


    So now you're doing the same thing that you say is 'abhorent' when Reid does it.
     
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    If Romney's done nothing wrong and got nothing to hide then why doesn't he release them?  Wasn't this the argument for invading Iraq?  If Saddam doesn't have WMD's then why won't he let people see for themselves?  If Romney's done nothing wrong, then why won't he do what his dad did and release multiple years of tax returns?
     
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    In Response to Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE. : So let's get this straight; its OK for the Senate Pro Tem to repeat unsubstantiated statements that Romney paid no taxes for 10 yrs (without stating it was illegal) all to sully his reputation and build a case that Romney is Gordon Gecko supporting the Dems class warfare platform.  Remember Romney did release his recent tax records, now they want more well you only have to keep your last 7 years.  So this ten year period appears to have ended 10 years ago. But it not OK to have someone running for the President of the United States to prove he's a citizen.  I believe it should be an obligation to prove you're a legal citizen meeting the requiremnets of the office.  The President could have made this go away in 2008 but it didn't suit his narrative at the time.  The President did finally prove it 3 years after it was asked for by releasing his long form, because an idiot with strange hair got the medias attention, so this is done.
    Posted by massmoderateJoe


    I didn't say anything was "OK".  Reid is an idiot for blindly quoting hearsay as anything but. 

    I just said that the two accusations are distinct enough to make your comparison both puerile and unconvincing.

    That you still think the birth certificate issue was somehow unresolved beyond 2008 (and still is among the gop crackpot caucus) just proves my point.

     
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    "The burden should be on him."

    Not in this country ya f'ing dunce!
     
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    Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE.

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    In Response to Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE. : I didn't say anything was "OK".  Reid is an idiot for blindly quoting hearsay as anything but.  I just said that the two accusations are distinct enough to make your comparison both puerile and unconvincing. That you still think the birth certificate issue was somehow unresolved beyond 2008 (and still is among the gop crackpot caucus) just proves my point.
    Posted by MattyScornD


    OK, we agree on Reid being an idiot, and I think you might likely agree that Trump is also an idiot.

    Just because the the two accusations are distinct enough?, ...distinctly different I assume is what you mean, doesn't mean comparisons can't be drawn, any other assumption is purely a callow display of logic.

    Romney's tax problem will last until he provides his taxes, and then the back up and then who knows what will be wanted, and that's because of the class war of being different that is being waged against him.

    Obama had a problem with his worldly differences that created a need to display his citizen status; first whispered by the Clinton camp.  He made a decision to incrementally respond to this (much like Romney and his taxes); with a short form certificate, then newspaper announcements, then as this simmered he ignored the rumbles and whispers because they hurt him less then the outrage empowered his supporters (much like Romney); until it was highlighted to a distracting level by Trump and only then did he bother to release his long form certificate.

    You see although they are distinct they are similar.
     
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    Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE.

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    In Response to Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE. : OK, we agree on Reid being an idiot, and I think you might likely agree that Trump is also an idiot. Just because the the two accusations are distinct enough?, ...distinctly different I assume is what you mean, doesn't mean comparisons can't be drawn, any other assumption is purely a callow display of logic. Romney's tax problem will last until he provides his taxes, and then the back up and then who knows what will be wanted, and that's because of the class war of being different that is being waged against him. Obama had a problem with his worldly differences that created a need to display his citizen status; first whispered by the Clinton camp.  He made a decision to incrementally respond to this (much like Romney and his taxes); with a short form certificate, then newspaper announcements, then as this simmered he ignored the rumbles and whispers because they hurt him less then the outrage empowered his supporters (much like Romney); until it was highlighted to a distracting level by Trump and only then did he bother to release his long form certificate. You see although they are distinct they are similar.
    Posted by massmoderateJoe


    No, they're not even similar.

    First, there is no qualitative difference between the info on the 'short' or 'long' birth certificates.  The former was more than sufficient and should have closed the matter, period.  Pursuing it after the election was insulting and degrading, and there should have been no need to "respond" to anyone.  He already had the job.

    And there is indeed a larger issue when extreme partisans, fueled by racism, demand to see a minority american's "papers".  It's humiliating and echoes previous cultural failings that those same partisans can't seem to let go of.  (Same goes for voter ID and non-existent voter fraud, btw)  They bypassed his character completely and questioned his very identity.  If you don't see that, then I can't help you understand why you're wrong.

    Romney's self-described expertise is in finance.  His business record and tax policies speak volumes to that expertise, so it's not out of line to ask if he's playing by the rules. (and not just rich peoples' rules)  It doesn't help that he's extremely cagey about taxes, paying, "exactly what was due and not a penny more."  Tone deafness.  And he's still interviewing for the job.
     
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    I read that Romney created a charitable trust and made a huge contribution to it a few years ago - something like $5 million.  He uses the trust to pay his annual Tithe to the church as well as other charitable donations.

    I'm not sure about the $5 million - I read where the trust has $10 million in assets.  I'm not sure if that means the $5 million he originally contributed to it grew in value, that he's made additional contributions, or if the original contribution was more than $5 million.

    The creation of the trust was set up for tax purposes.  Not illegal.  Pretty smart, in fact, as long as you don't plan to run for President and people are going to expect you to release several years of tax returns.

    I think some question was raised about his residency during his run for Governor because he named an address in Utah as his primary Residence, which saved him a bunch in proerty taxes. 

    The dude is obsessed with minimizing his tax bill.
     
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    In Response to Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE. : Hey spanky, this ain't a court of law and he didn't accuse Mittens of breaking said law. He is speculating, nothing more.
    Posted by 12-Angry-Men


    Have you stopped beating your wife yet 12?

     
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    Re: REID CLAIMS THAT ROMNEY PAID ZERO INCOME TAX IN MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE.

    Oh wait, I see.  Reid the gumby who can't quite figure out the concept of burden of proof, isn't saying Romney did anything illegal, just that he used the law legally, as do we all.

    The law YOU wrote and passed, right, ya fcking fool?

    Stack 'em up!
     
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    The dude is obsessed with minimizing his tax bill.
    Posted by DirtyWaterLover


    Do you pay more in taxes than you lawfully owe? 
    If the answer is no, you too are "obsessed" with minimizing your tax bill.

    Whether or not Romney releases his tax returns, the Obama campaign and the media (but I repeat myself) will be barking at his heels, to deflect from what Obama has accomplished: "the worst economic recovery in US history".
     
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