Republican War On Sodomy Is Getting 'Slippery'

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    Republican War On Sodomy Is Getting 'Slippery'

    Republican candidate for gov, Lt. Gov Cuccinelli wants to re-instate laws against oral and anal sex...putting him firmly in Virginians private bedrooms.  But he's not the only one.  13 states still have anti-sodomy laws on the books.  Why??  The central conceit just proves that these lawmakers have something firmly lodged in their glory holes.

     

    Lawmakers in Texas have quietly killed every legislative effort to erase its anti-sodomy statute (the one that was actually stricken down by the Supreme Court), which makes sense when you consider Gov. Rick Perry is on the record defending it, and the state GOP recently made a sodomy ban part of its official platform. Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback left his state’s sodomy statute out of a 2012 push to purge outdated laws. The last serious repeal push in Louisiana came in 2003, shortly before the Supreme Court decision, with opponents warning that legalized sodomy would lead to disease and child abuse—two things that, thanks to the sodomy ban, Louisiana had been mercifully free of for the last 207 years.

    Keeping anti-sodomy statutes on the books serves no real function, since the crimes are impossible to prosecute. Mostly, the laws’ supporters just don’t want their states to legally acknowledge that there’s something okay about homosexuality. So-called crimes against nature, like other 19th-century relics such as mutton chops, DIY canning, and income inequality, are kind of “in” right now. In July, Virginia attorney general Ken Cuccinelli, who is running for governor as a Republican, launched a new website to defend his state’s anti-sodomy law.

     

     
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    "Keeping anti-sodomy statutes on the books serves no real function, since the crimes are impossible to prosecute."

    Jeebus, what a blatant lie. The law serves the function of prosecuting child predators.

    There are many archaic laws that remain on the books. This isnt one of them. The Virginia Legislature needs to amend the laws, but until it does, this statute is essential and has been used by many Democratic local prosecutors as well to nail child predators. Without this law, child predators could only be charged with misdemeanors.

    • The Va. Attorney General’s Office is appealing the March 2013 two-to-one decision of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in MacDonald v. Moose.
    • This has very real implications for public safety. If the Supreme Court doesn’t overturn the Fourth Circuit’s decision, 90 sexual predators in Virginia – most of them child sex predators – may be eligible to have their names removed from Virginia’s sex offender registry.
    • William Scott MacDonald was 47 when he was convicted of soliciting oral sex from a minor girl. This was a repeat offense.
    • The Fourth Circuit’s 2-1 decision effectively struck down the law that was used to prosecute him – Virginia’s anti-sodomy law. The dissenting judge is an appointee of President Obama, and he agreed that the law should not be struck down.
    • This case is about using current law to protect a minor girl from a 47 year-old repeat sexual predator. The law is only applied to sodomy committed against minors, against non-consenting adults, or in public. In fact, contrary to misinformation peddled by Terry McAuliffe and his liberal allies against the defenders of this law, the law is not – and cannot be – used against consenting adults acting in private.

     

     
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    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    "Keeping anti-sodomy statutes on the books serves no real function, since the crimes are impossible to prosecute."

    Jeebus, what a blatant lie. The law serves the function of prosecuting child predators.


    That didn't stop police in Louisiana from illegally (i.e. entrapping) arresting people for having sex in a priavte residence based on a similar statute for "crimes against nature".

     

    In VA, the girls in the case were 16 and 17 at the time.  Age of consent in Virginia is 15.  The perp was convicted of a misdemeanor as warranted under state law and is not appealing that conviction.  

    Cuccinelli appears to be playing politics with this case to show his anti-gay bona fides and pander to his christianist anti-gay base.

    Maybe instead he should try instead to get the age of consent in VA raised so as to legally treat sex with minors as, y'know, felonies, instead of misdemeanors.

     

     

     
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    A war Matty? Strait to the nth degree, just like the "war on woman".

    Look out everyone, we are at war!!

     
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    “In the last three years, law enforcement in Virginia’s largest city has used this code section and code sections linked to it 60 times against child sexual predators. This particularly egregious sexual crime against our children will go unpunished unless the Fourth Circuit decision is overturned. All those who care about deterring and punishing predators who pursue our children must support this appeal to the Supreme Court.”

    - Virginia Beach
    Commonwealth’s Attorney
    Harvey Bryant

     
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    In response to newman09's comment:


    A war Matty? Strait to the nth degree, just like the "war on woman".

    Look out everyone, we are at war!!



    Well, considering their longstanding scorched earth campaign against anyone or anything homosexual, it seemed appropriate.

    Point duly noted, however.  Mea culpa on the "war" rhetoric.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    So glad we're focusing on the really big issues facing the republic. Sigh.

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    Republican candidate for gov, Lt. Gov Cuccinelli wants to re-instate laws against oral and anal sex...putting him firmly in Virginians private bedrooms.  But he's not the only one.  13 states still have anti-sodomy laws on the books.  Why??  The central conceit just proves that these lawmakers have something firmly lodged in their glory holes.

     

    Lawmakers in Texas have quietly killed every legislative effort to erase its anti-sodomy statute (the one that was actually stricken down by the Supreme Court), which makes sense when you consider Gov. Rick Perry is on the record defending it, and the state GOP recently made a sodomy ban part of its official platform. Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback left his state’s sodomy statute out of a 2012 push to purge outdated laws. The last serious repeal push in Louisiana came in 2003, shortly before the Supreme Court decision, with opponents warning that legalized sodomy would lead to disease and child abuse—two things that, thanks to the sodomy ban, Louisiana had been mercifully free of for the last 207 years.

    Keeping anti-sodomy statutes on the books serves no real function, since the crimes are impossible to prosecute. Mostly, the laws’ supporters just don’t want their states to legally acknowledge that there’s something okay about homosexuality. So-called crimes against nature, like other 19th-century relics such as mutton chops, DIY canning, and income inequality, are kind of “in” right now. In July, Virginia attorney general Ken Cuccinelli, who is running for governor as a Republican, launched a new website to defend his state’s anti-sodomy law.

     



    How about these existing laws...from one of the most liberal and Democratic run states in the union...care to guess which one???

    Sodomy

    MGL c.272, s. 35. Unnatural and lascivious acts.

    Whoever commits any unnatural and lascivious act with another person shall be punished by a fine of not less than one hundred nor more than one thousand dollars or by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than five years or in jail or the house of correction for not more than two and one half years.

    Whoever commits fornication shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than three months or by a fine of not more than thirty dollars.

    Fornication

    MGL c.272, s. 18. Fornication.

    Whoever commits fornication shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than three months or by a fine of not more than thirty dollars.

     

     

     
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    Re: Republican War On Sodomy Is Getting 'Slippery'

    "Republican candidate for gov, Lt. Gov Cuccinelli wants to re-instate laws against oral and anal sex".

    L I E .

     

     
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