Rubio Pushing A Constitutional Amendment To Eliminate A GOP Inspired Policy

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    Rubio Pushing A Constitutional Amendment To Eliminate A GOP Inspired Policy

    Rubio proposes constitutional amendment to invalidate ObamaCare mandate

     

    Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., announced Tuesday that he is proposing an amendment to the U.S. constitution that would effectively invalidate the requirement under ObamaCare that nearly everybody buy health insurance.

    The proposed amendment, named the “Right to Refuse” amendment, would make it unconstitutional for Congress to enact a law that imposes a tax on citizens who fail to purchase goods or services Congress has deemed mandatory. The idea is that it would apply to the so-called individual mandate, which was interpreted in 2012 as a tax.  



    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/04/rubio-proposes-constitutional-amendment-to-invalidate-obamacare-individual/#ixzz2VGidRp4p
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    And here I thought that forcing citizens to buy something was already un-Constitutional. Oh right, it's a tax.

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    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

     

     
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    "GOP inspired" my...foot.

    ObamaCare is Obama's. It has already shown to be a massive failure.

    Breaking news: No Republicans voted for ObamaCare. Democrats own it.

     Who cares what the Heritage Foundation said in the 1990s, for God's sake. Man up and own this socialist disaster.

    Obama defenders sure know how to blame others.

     
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    Was just reading Rubio's press release on this.  In the short 4 paragraph release, he managed to mention the IRS scandal 4 times.

    This clearly has no chance of passing.  I suspect he's just throwing a bone to the GOP base, who has been bashing him on his immigration stance.

     

     
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    Re: Rubio Pushing A Constitutional Amendment To Eliminate A GOP Inspired Policy

    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

     

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

      my...foot.



    Should be removed from your mouth.

     

     

     

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    "GOP inspired"



    Not paying much attention to the Republican response when Clinton pushed Hillary's plan in the 90s?

     

    Just because the GOP changed it's tune 180 degrees when Obama offered their prior ideas in 2008 doesn't mean they weren't "GOP inspired."

     

     

     But this is hardly relevant - why is Rubio wasting congress's time in the midst of a bad economy on such a hopeless measure?

     




    ZERO Republicans voted for ObamaCare, and you say Senator Rubio and Republicans are "wasting time " trying their best to repeal it...and at the same time, you claim ObamaCare is GOP inspired ....

     

    Okey dokey.

    So if Obamacare is a success you would of course state without hesitancy that this was GOP inspired, and thank Republicans sincerely.

     
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    "GOP inspired" my...foot.

    ObamaCare is Obama's. It has already shown to be a massive failure.

    Breaking news: No Republicans voted for ObamaCare. Democrats own it.

     Who cares what the Heritage Foundation said in the 1990s, for God's sake. Man up and own this socialist disaster.

    Obama defenders sure know how to blame others.

     




     

     

    In case anyone’s forgotten, this was a Republican idea in the first place. Nixon embraced the mandate in the 1970s, and George H.W. Bush supported the idea in the 1980s. When Bob Dole endorsed the mandate in 1994, it was in keeping with the party’s prevailing attitudes at the time. Mitt Romney embraced the mandate as governor and it was largely ignored during the 2008 campaign, since it was such a common GOP position.

    In recent years, the mandate has been embraced by the likes of John McCain, Orrin Hatch, Bob Bennett, Tommy Thompson, Lamar Alexander, Lindsey Graham, John Thune, Scott Brown, and Judd Gregg, among many others. Indeed, several of them not only endorsed the policy, they literally co-sponsored legislation that included a mandate.

    In the summer of 2009, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), one of the leading Republican lawmakers in the talks over health care reform, told Fox News, “I believe that there is a bipartisan consensus to have an individual mandate.” Did Fox News freak out? Did GOP leaders immediately distance themselves from the comments? Was Grassley forced to immediately backpedal? No, none of those things happened. Grassley said there was a bipartisan consensus to have an individual mandate because there was a bipartisan consensus to have an individual mandate.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2012_01/four_out_of_six034661.php

     
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    "GOP inspired" my...foot.

    ObamaCare is Obama's. It has already shown to be a massive failure.

    Breaking news: No Republicans voted for ObamaCare. Democrats own it.

     Who cares what the Heritage Foundation said in the 1990s, for God's sake. Man up and own this socialist disaster.

    Obama defenders sure know how to blame others.

     




     

     

    In case anyone’s forgotten, this was a Republican idea in the first place. Nixon embraced the mandate in the 1970s, and George H.W. Bush supported the idea in the 1980s. When Bob Dole endorsed the mandate in 1994, it was in keeping with the party’s prevailing attitudes at the time. Mitt Romney embraced the mandate as governor and it was largely ignored during the 2008 campaign, since it was such a common GOP position.

    In recent years, the mandate has been embraced by the likes of John McCain, Orrin Hatch, Bob Bennett, Tommy Thompson, Lamar Alexander, Lindsey Graham, John Thune, Scott Brown, and Judd Gregg, among many others. Indeed, several of them not only endorsed the policy, they literally co-sponsored legislation that included a mandate.

    In the summer of 2009, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), one of the leading Republican lawmakers in the talks over health care reform, told Fox News, “I believe that there is a bipartisan consensus to have an individual mandate.” Did Fox News freak out? Did GOP leaders immediately distance themselves from the comments? Was Grassley forced to immediately backpedal? No, none of those things happened. Grassley said there was a bipartisan consensus to have an individual mandate because there was a bipartisan consensus to have an individual mandate.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2012_01/four_out_of_six034661.php



    Oh well, if some embrace it then they ALL must embrace it. How dare Rubio have a differing opinion. Doesn't he know he should walk lock step???

     
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    "GOP inspired" my...foot.

    ObamaCare is Obama's. It has already shown to be a massive failure.

    Breaking news: No Republicans voted for ObamaCare. Democrats own it.

     Who cares what the Heritage Foundation said in the 1990s, for God's sake. Man up and own this socialist disaster.

    Obama defenders sure know how to blame others.

     




     

     

    In case anyone’s forgotten, this was a Republican idea in the first place. Nixon embraced the mandate in the 1970s, and George H.W. Bush supported the idea in the 1980s. When Bob Dole endorsed the mandate in 1994, it was in keeping with the party’s prevailing attitudes at the time. Mitt Romney embraced the mandate as governor and it was largely ignored during the 2008 campaign, since it was such a common GOP position.

    In recent years, the mandate has been embraced by the likes of John McCain, Orrin Hatch, Bob Bennett, Tommy Thompson, Lamar Alexander, Lindsey Graham, John Thune, Scott Brown, and Judd Gregg, among many others. Indeed, several of them not only endorsed the policy, they literally co-sponsored legislation that included a mandate.

    In the summer of 2009, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), one of the leading Republican lawmakers in the talks over health care reform, told Fox News, “I believe that there is a bipartisan consensus to have an individual mandate.” Did Fox News freak out? Did GOP leaders immediately distance themselves from the comments? Was Grassley forced to immediately backpedal? No, none of those things happened. Grassley said there was a bipartisan consensus to have an individual mandate because there was a bipartisan consensus to have an individual mandate.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2012_01/four_out_of_six034661.php



    Sounds like you are trying to distance yourself from Obamacare by claiming it was a republican inspired idea.

    Why?

     
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    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    [QUOTE]ZERO Republicans voted for ObamaCare, and you say Senator Rubio and Republicans are "wasting time " trying their best to repeal it



     

    Ok, so you don't know how a Constitutional Amendment is passed. That's fine. Ignorance is only a problem if you wallow in it. Get reading.

     

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    [QUOTE]you claim ObamaCare is GOP inspired[/QUOTE]

     

    Why do you think you can fool anyone by lying about history?

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    You know, I hear many democrats and newfolk "reminding" all of us that this was a republican idea, done by Romney in Massachusetts, and so on.

    One needs to wonder why there is such a focus on the origins instead of championing a bill developed soley by democrats and liberal think tanks and passed without any non-democrat votes.

    Are they scared?  Do they smell failure?

     
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    Let's try again. ObamaCare was a Democratic bill, rammed though. Even Mr. Romney, who passed  RomneyCare in Mass., was a zealous opponent of the ObamaCare legislation as passed.  

    No Republican voted for ObamaCare. If it is a tremendous success, Republicans are wrong and get no credit.

    If ObamaCare is a massive failure, Republicans are not to blame.

    I dont give a rat's behind what Sen Dole said in the 1970s.

    Can't have it both ways as to the impact of ObamaCare. You scoff at those who complain a basic takeover of 1/7 of the economy is socialistic. Yet at the same time liberals laud how the all-encompassing ObamaCare tinkering is going to remedy ALL the major problems with private health care.  Nothing is beyond its scope.

    OWN IT!

     
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    Let's try again. ObamaCare was a Democratic bill, rammed though. Even Mr. Romney, who passed  RomneyCare in Mass., was a zealous opponent of the ObamaCare legislation as passed.  

    No Republican voted for ObamaCare. If it is a tremendous success, Republicans are wrong and get no credit.

    If ObamaCare is a massive failure, Republicans are not to blame.

    I dont give a rat's behind what Sen Dole said in the 1970s.

    OWN IT!



    I'll gladly own Obamacare over the status quo.  Since Republicans made absolutely zero movement or illusion of movement on health care since the mid-90's when they gained control of Congress, you must own the status quo.  And that means that health care costs under Obamacare can double before you're justified opening your fool mouth in protest.

    Removing the mandate would not invalidate the law, BTW - it would just make everybody's premiums skyrocket, because the insurance carriers would not have a healthy base to offset costs.  The more premiums skyrocket, the more 'takers' elect out of coverage.  And who, oh high-information voter, would you blame then when you cannot afford coverage?  

     

     
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    Let's try again. ObamaCare was a Democratic bill, rammed though. Even Mr. Romney, who passed  RomneyCare in Mass., was a zealous opponent of the ObamaCare legislation as passed.  

    No Republican voted for ObamaCare. If it is a tremendous success, Republicans are wrong and get no credit.

    If ObamaCare is a massive failure, Republicans are not to blame.

    I dont give a rat's behind what Sen Dole said in the 1970s.

    OWN IT!

     



    I'll gladly own Obamacare over the status quo.  Since Republicans made absolutely zero movement or illusion of movement on health care since the mid-90's when they gained control of Congress, you must own the status quo.  And that means that health care costs under Obamacare can double before you're justified opening your fool mouth in protest.

     

    Removing the mandate would not invalidate the law, BTW - it would just make everybody's premiums skyrocket, because the insurance carriers would not have a healthy base to offset costs.  The more premiums skyrocket, the more 'takers' elect out of coverage.  And who, oh high-information voter, would you blame then when you cannot afford coverage?  

     



    To Republicans, every unfortunate soul who is dropped by their health insurer, can't afford insurance, or simply has a run of horrible luck...is irresponsible, a freeloader, trying to game the system, deserving of whatever fate befalls them.

    And the predominantly Christian GOP? They have no compunction about repealing the law either, and telling their less fortunate neighbors to take a hike, lest it muck up their chances for a new round of tax cuts.

    But of course they're promising to replace the law. With the same healthcare reforms they've been trying to enact over the last several decades:

    None.

     
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     "Since Republicans made absolutely zero movement or illusion of movement on health care since the mid-90's when they gained control of Congress, you must own the status quo.  And that means that health care costs under Obamacare can double before you're justified opening your fool mouth in protest."

    Shirking responsibility for the massive failure of ObamaCare is a tough job, feel for you.

    Republicans have controlled Congress since the mid-90s? Who knew? LOL!

    Health care costs can double under the laughingly-named "Affordable Care Act"  They certainly can!!

    "zero movement  on health care" is the usual rhetoric of those who hold the progressive delusion that Government 'action' , and new Government 'programs' are always a great thing!

     
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    And the predominantly Christian GOP?

    And the predominantly Christian Dem Party?




    Snarky secular Dems normally insult Christiians as Bible thumpers, and screech about separation of church and state and how God isnt a Republican; but they do claim Jesus supports massive increaes in the federal budget, and certain trillion dollar bureaucratic government programs...

     
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    And the predominantly Christian GOP?

    And the predominantly Christian Dem Party?

     




    Snarky secular Dems normally insult Christiians as Bible thumpers, and screech about separation of church and state and how God isnt a Republican; but they do claim Jesus supports massive increaes in the federal budget, and certain trillion dollar bureaucratic government programs...

     

    [/QUOTE]


     

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