Should voting be mandatory ?

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    If we had Mrs. Palin on energy, the way she was in Alaska, with an 82% approval rating, we would be winning this fight.  But you know this.

     

     

    Pure speculation on your part.

    Ya gotta dream, though....

     

     

     




     

     

    Maybe

    But what do we have instead?

    Gas      3.60

    Pipeline    No   (possible 100,000 jobs....not)

    True unemployment     14%

     

    I like my "pure speculation".

     



    No maybes.  You made it up.

     

    I'm sure you like the smell of your own breaking wind, too, but that doesn't make it any less gag-inducing to those around you.

     

     

     

     

     




     

    I "made up"  3.60/gallon, No pipeline, 100,000 jobs that could have been, and true unemployment at 14%?

    Hmmm, you don`t get out much do you?

    Nice faaht talk also.  Do you pick your nose and eat it you p oopy head?

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    You're the one spewing gas here.  

    You can't prove those factors would be different if an election 5 years ago went a different way. (The "100k jobs" figure is even more ridiculous.)

    Actually, they might even be much, much worse.  I say we would have 5.60 gas and 21% UE....

    See how that works...or doesn't...?

    So instead, maybe you should try forming an argument you can prove and stick to the topic.

     

    It's fair enough to say you think the wrong team was elected, but when you throw out baseless guesstimates, you just look foolish.

    That's like saying 9/11 would not have happened if Gore was elected.  It was dumb then, and this is dumb now.

     

     

     
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    If we had Mrs. Palin on energy, the way she was in Alaska, with an 82% approval rating, we would be winning this fight.  But you know this.

     

     

    Pure speculation on your part.

    Ya gotta dream, though....

     

     

     




     

     

    Maybe

    But what do we have instead?

    Gas      3.60

    Pipeline    No   (possible 100,000 jobs....not)

    True unemployment     14%

     

    I like my "pure speculation".

     



    No maybes.  You made it up.

     

    I'm sure you like the smell of your own breaking wind, too, but that doesn't make it any less gag-inducing to those around you.

     

     

     

     

     

     




     

     

    I "made up"  3.60/gallon, No pipeline, 100,000 jobs that could have been, and true unemployment at 14%?

    Hmmm, you don`t get out much do you?

    Nice faaht talk also.  Do you pick your nose and eat it you p oopy head?



    You're the one spewing gas here.  

     

    You can't prove those factors would be different if an election 5 years ago went a different way. (The "100k jobs" figure is even more ridiculous.)

    Actually, they might even be much, much worse.  I say we would have 5.60 gas and 21% UE....

    See how that works...or doesn't...?

    So instead, maybe you should try forming an argument you can prove and stick to the topic.

     

    It's fair enough to say you think the wrong team was elected, but when you throw out baseless guesstimates, you just look foolish.

    That's like saying 9/11 would not have happened if Gore was elected.  It was dumb then, and this is dumb now.

     

     

     




     

    So, to be clear, you honestly think that a McCain/Palin team would NOT have blessed the pipeline and the jobs it would/could have created?  And, if so, you believe that gas would NOT have come down?  And, I`m assuming you think that despite the current incompetent`s obsession with EVERYTHING but job creation, that the unemployment rate would not be down?

    Man, you really don`t get out much do you?

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    Man, you're really digging a rhetorical hole for yourself here.

    You can't make a simple connection of election to pipeline to jobs...and neither can I...to the negative or positive.  The only honest answer is that we don't know HOW exactly it would have shaken out.  So, we guess, like you did.

    What I'm saying is that you are totally talking out of turn here and have NOTHING to back it up.  

    It's almost as if you forget what the world was like in 2009 and the many obstacles to the fantasy you're currently imagining.

    And this is beside the point that any potential economic benefits of the pipeline are still heavily disputed even in the current scenario you posit.  There is NO proof whatsoever that the pipeline will either decrease gas prices or create enough jobs to move the UE needle.  Another war in the Middle East or dip in the markets would wipe it out almost overnight.  

     

    Repeat: I get that you think McCain would have done a better job, but beyond your general beliefs, any details you attempt to argue are still just science fiction.  Believe what you want to believe, but stop pretending they're facts.

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Re: Should voting be mandatory ?

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    Yes, I am using hypotheticals, I agree.  But the fact remains that a different election result would have brought a team in that would focus on JOBS.  Geeez.....be honest.

    OK.

    But again, you can only assume that a different election result would have changed the employment trajectory.

    We are left speculating whether McCain/Palin would have, say, bailed out the automakers (saving a million jobs) or signed a stimulus bill (1/3 tax cuts)...

    ...especially in light of a dem-controlled congress which might have been as obstructive as the gop as proven to be.

    It really remains to be seen what exactly the government can do to create jobs other than just hiring people on its own.

    Given the myriad charges of "RINO" at McCain before and since, it's still anyone's guess at how his admin would have proceeded.

     

     
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