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    We've beat this horse to death, PP.  It was about narcing them out, not race.  They are still scumbags and drug dealing in school, but they are all minors and we won't see this one again.

     
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    We've beat this horse to death, PP.  It was about narcing them out, not race.  They are still scumbags and drug dealing in school, but they are all minors and we won't see this one again.



    I hear you but I can't help but think if it was the other way around that there would be many on the Left that would still feel there was an element of racism involved. I think they would be cynical as to it being just about snitching. Just my two cents.

     
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    Why does it always seem to be Florida...?

     

    It's got to be the humidity. Drives people loco....

     

     

     

     
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    We've beat this horse to death, PP.  It was about narcing them out, not race.  They are still scumbags and drug dealing in school, but they are all minors and we won't see this one again.

     



    I hear you but I can't help but think if it was the other way around that there would be many on the Left that would still feel there was an element of racism involved. I think they would be cynical as to it being just about snitching. Just my two cents.

     

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    Quite likely, but they are all minors.  No one can give their names or even if there are charges.  It's over is my guess

     
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    We've beat this horse to death, PP.  It was about narcing them out, not race.  They are still scumbags and drug dealing in school, but they are all minors and we won't see this one again.

     



    I hear you but I can't help but think if it was the other way around that there would be many on the Left that would still feel there was an element of racism involved. I think they would be cynical as to it being just about snitching. Just my two cents.

     

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    That would imply the same thing wouldn't happen if the 'narc' was black.  In that mindset, a snitch is still a snitch.

    Was the bus driver - who regretfully didn't intervene - black or white?

     

     
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    We've beat this horse to death, PP.  It was about narcing them out, not race.  They are still scumbags and drug dealing in school, but they are all minors and we won't see this one again.

     

     



    I hear you but I can't help but think if it was the other way around that there would be many on the Left that would still feel there was an element of racism involved. I think they would be cynical as to it being just about snitching. Just my two cents.

     

     

     

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    Quite likely, but they are all minors.  No one can give their names or even if there are charges.  It's over is my guess

     

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    Minors or not, their names are in the OP.

    Just as "likely" as conservatives trying make racial hay out of this story...?  Really?!

     

     

     

     

     
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    We've beat this horse to death, PP.  It was about narcing them out, not race.  They are still scumbags and drug dealing in school, but they are all minors and we won't see this one again.

     

     



    I hear you but I can't help but think if it was the other way around that there would be many on the Left that would still feel there was an element of racism involved. I think they would be cynical as to it being just about snitching. Just my two cents.

     

     

     

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    That would imply the same thing wouldn't happen if the 'narc' was black.  In that mindset, a snitch is still a snitch.

    Are you saying if the narc was black and the animals who ganged up on him were white? Then I would say many would be saying racism was involved

     

    Was the bus driver - who regretfully didn't intervene - black or white?

     

    I have no idea of his race

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    We've beat this horse to death, PP.  It was about narcing them out, not race.  They are still scumbags and drug dealing in school, but they are all minors and we won't see this one again.

     

     



    I hear you but I can't help but think if it was the other way around that there would be many on the Left that would still feel there was an element of racism involved. I think they would be cynical as to it being just about snitching. Just my two cents.

     

     

     

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    That would imply the same thing wouldn't happen if the 'narc' was black.  In that mindset, a snitch is still a snitch.

     

    Was the bus driver - who regretfully didn't intervene - black or white?

     

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    Irrelevent and immaterial. Just obfuscation.

     
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    We've beat this horse to death, PP.  It was about narcing them out, not race.  They are still scumbags and drug dealing in school, but they are all minors and we won't see this one again.

     

     

     



    I hear you but I can't help but think if it was the other way around that there would be many on the Left that would still feel there was an element of racism involved. I think they would be cynical as to it being just about snitching. Just my two cents.

     

     

     

     

     

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    That would imply the same thing wouldn't happen if the 'narc' was black.  In that mindset, a snitch is still a snitch.

     

    Are you saying if the narc was black and the animals who ganged up on him were white? Then I would say many would be saying racism was involved

    No.  I'm saying if the perps were the same - black - and the narc was black, the beating would still be imminent as a consequence of snitching.

    And the event would likely be ignored, mediawise.

     

    Was the bus driver - who regretfully didn't intervene - black or white?

    I have no idea of his race

    Since we're playing with hypotheticals, if the driver WAS black and didn't intervene on behalf of a white kid, would the racial implications be more pronounced?

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    Ultimately, I think it's a stretch to extrapolate schoolyard brawls onto the rest of society - white or black.  The only difference here is that it was caught on camera.

    This is more about bullying and intimidation than either race or drugs, IMO.  And I would say the same if the racial profiles were reversed.

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    We've beat this horse to death, PP.  It was about narcing them out, not race.  They are still scumbags and drug dealing in school, but they are all minors and we won't see this one again.

     

     

     

     



    I hear you but I can't help but think if it was the other way around that there would be many on the Left that would still feel there was an element of racism involved. I think they would be cynical as to it being just about snitching. Just my two cents.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    That would imply the same thing wouldn't happen if the 'narc' was black.  In that mindset, a snitch is still a snitch.

     

     

    Are you saying if the narc was black and the animals who ganged up on him were white? Then I would say many would be saying racism was involved

    No.  I'm saying if the perps were the same - black - and the narc was black, the beating would still be imminent as a consequence of snitching.

    And the event would likely be ignored, mediawise.

     

    Was the bus driver - who regretfully didn't intervene - black or white?

    I have no idea of his race

    Since we're playing with hypotheticals, if the driver WAS black and didn't intervene on behalf of a white kid, would the racial implications be more pronounced?

     

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    Ultimately, I think it's a stretch to extrapolate schoolyard brawls onto the rest of society - white or black.  The only difference here is that it was caught on camera.

    You don't think racism exists in schoolyards? Ok....

    This is more about bullying and intimidation than either race or drugs, IMO.  And I would say the same if the racial profiles were reversed.

     

    You might...but many others wouldn't

     

      

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    We've beat this horse to death, PP.  It was about narcing them out, not race.  They are still scumbags and drug dealing in school, but they are all minors and we won't see this one again.

     

     

     

     



    I hear you but I can't help but think if it was the other way around that there would be many on the Left that would still feel there was an element of racism involved. I think they would be cynical as to it being just about snitching. Just my two cents.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    That would imply the same thing wouldn't happen if the 'narc' was black.  In that mindset, a snitch is still a snitch.

     

     

    Are you saying if the narc was black and the animals who ganged up on him were white? Then I would say many would be saying racism was involved

    No.  I'm saying if the perps were the same - black - and the narc was black, the beating would still be imminent as a consequence of snitching.

    And the event would likely be ignored, mediawise.

     

    Was the bus driver - who regretfully didn't intervene - black or white?

    I have no idea of his race

    Since we're playing with hypotheticals, if the driver WAS black and didn't intervene on behalf of a white kid, would the racial implications be more pronounced?

     

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    Ultimately, I think it's a stretch to extrapolate schoolyard brawls onto the rest of society - white or black.  The only difference here is that it was caught on camera.

    This is more about bullying and intimidation than either race or drugs, IMO.  And I would say the same if the racial profiles were reversed.

     

     

     

     

     

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    Agreed there Matty.  In fact, if you at the coverage, its about the driver, and potential charges.

     
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    We've beat this horse to death, PP.  It was about narcing them out, not race.  They are still scumbags and drug dealing in school, but they are all minors and we won't see this one again.

     

     



    I hear you but I can't help but think if it was the other way around that there would be many on the Left that would still feel there was an element of racism involved. I think they would be cynical as to it being just about snitching. Just my two cents.

     

     

     

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    That would imply the same thing wouldn't happen if the 'narc' was black.  In that mindset, a snitch is still a snitch.

     

    Was the bus driver - who regretfully didn't intervene - black or white?

     

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    Answer: Black

     
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    We've beat this horse to death, PP.  It was about narcing them out, not race.  They are still scumbags and drug dealing in school, but they are all minors and we won't see this one again.

     

     

     



    I hear you but I can't help but think if it was the other way around that there would be many on the Left that would still feel there was an element of racism involved. I think they would be cynical as to it being just about snitching. Just my two cents.

     

     

     

     

     

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    That would imply the same thing wouldn't happen if the 'narc' was black.  In that mindset, a snitch is still a snitch.

     

     

    Was the bus driver - who regretfully didn't intervene - black or white?

     

     

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    Irrelevent and immaterial. Just obfuscation.

     

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    If you're gonna play the race card, you might as well go the full nines on it, eh...?

     

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    Ultimately, I think it's a stretch to extrapolate schoolyard brawls onto the rest of society - white or black.  The only difference here is that it was caught on camera. This is more about bullying and intimidation than either race or drugs, IMO.  And I would say the same if the racial profiles were reversed.

    Completely agree, but you're also completely missing the point.

    The point is that the only violence that is extrapolated into a societal issue is "white on black" violence and the only reason for that is because of professional race baiters. The point of pointing out "black on black" and "black on white" violence is to show the absolute hypocrisy of these professional race baiters and their supporters in the media and the political class.

     

     

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    [QUOTE]Ultimately, I think it's a stretch to extrapolate schoolyard brawls onto the rest of society - white or black.  The only difference here is that it was caught on camera. This is more about bullying and intimidation than either race or drugs, IMO.  And I would say the same if the racial profiles were reversed.

     

    Completely agree, but you're also completely missing the point.

    The point is that the only violence that is extrapolated into a societal issue is "white on black" violence and the only reason for that is because of professional race baiters. The point of pointing out "black on black" and "black on white" violence is to show the absolute hypocrisy of these professional race baiters and their supporters in the media and the political class.

     

     

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    what is this discussion about ........ a 63 y/o bus driver who had to use the good old Florida Law of " sit on the ground " defense so he wouldn't have been beaten to a pulp too .

    btw double p's be at a botum o dis decutsha ...... so I guts da nos it ain't muc !

     
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    All three charged with 'Felony Assault'.

    Grebbin stole cash from victim.

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    [QUOTE]Ultimately, I think it's a stretch to extrapolate schoolyard brawls onto the rest of society - white or black.  The only difference here is that it was caught on camera. This is more about bullying and intimidation than either race or drugs, IMO.  And I would say the same if the racial profiles were reversed.

     

    Completely agree, but you're also completely missing the point.

    The point is that the only violence that is extrapolated into a societal issue is "white on black" violence and the only reason for that is because of professional race baiters. The point of pointing out "black on black" and "black on white" violence is to show the absolute hypocrisy of these professional race baiters and their supporters in the media and the political class.

     

     

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    So, the "professional race baiters" are the sole reason why race relations happen to be strained in this country...??  Really?!!  (as opposed to the "professional racists", of course)

    That leaves out a huge chunk of history which is prologue to now.

    There is no time in American history (or world history for that matter) lacking for racial animosity - none - despite the fact that minorities in this country hold more power and respect now than at any other time before.

     

    So, tell me why you think this is not just a product of the media's massive distortion of a heretofore existing, underlying problem that fails to connect the real story with the overall narrative.

     

     

     

     

     
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    [QUOTE]Ultimately, I think it's a stretch to extrapolate schoolyard brawls onto the rest of society - white or black.  The only difference here is that it was caught on camera. This is more about bullying and intimidation than either race or drugs, IMO.  And I would say the same if the racial profiles were reversed.

     

     

    Completely agree, but you're also completely missing the point.

    The point is that the only violence that is extrapolated into a societal issue is "white on black" violence and the only reason for that is because of professional race baiters. The point of pointing out "black on black" and "black on white" violence is to show the absolute hypocrisy of these professional race baiters and their supporters in the media and the political class.

     

     

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    So, the "professional race baiters" are the sole reason why race relations happen to be strained in this country...??  Really?!!  (as opposed to the "professional racists", of course)

     

    That leaves out a huge chunk of history which is prologue to now.

    There is no time in American history (or world history for that matter) lacking for racial animosity - none - despite the fact that minorities in this country hold more power and respect now than at any other time before.

     

    So, tell me why you think this is not just a product of the media's massive distortion of a heretofore existing, underlying problem that fails to connect the real story with the overall narrative.

     

     

     

     

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    "So, the "professional race baiters" are the sole reason why race relations happen to be strained in this country...??"

     

    I don't believe that was what he was trying to say. At least I didn't take it that way.

     
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    [QUOTE]Ultimately, I think it's a stretch to extrapolate schoolyard brawls onto the rest of society - white or black.  The only difference here is that it was caught on camera. This is more about bullying and intimidation than either race or drugs, IMO.  And I would say the same if the racial profiles were reversed.

     

     

     

    Completely agree, but you're also completely missing the point.

    The point is that the only violence that is extrapolated into a societal issue is "white on black" violence and the only reason for that is because of professional race baiters. The point of pointing out "black on black" and "black on white" violence is to show the absolute hypocrisy of these professional race baiters and their supporters in the media and the political class.

     

     

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    So, the "professional race baiters" are the sole reason why race relations happen to be strained in this country...??  Really?!!  (as opposed to the "professional racists", of course)

     

     

    That leaves out a huge chunk of history which is prologue to now.

    There is no time in American history (or world history for that matter) lacking for racial animosity - none - despite the fact that minorities in this country hold more power and respect now than at any other time before.

     

    So, tell me why you think this is not just a product of the media's massive distortion of a heretofore existing, underlying problem that fails to connect the real story with the overall narrative.

     

     

     

     

     

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    "So, the "professional race baiters" are the sole reason why race relations happen to be strained in this country...??"

     

     

    I don't believe that was what he was trying to say. At least I didn't take it that way.

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    "...the only violence that is extrapolated into a societal issue is "white on black" violence and the only reason for that is because of professional race baiters. "


    Which way did you take it?

     

    (Leaving aside for a minute the notion that ALL violence is necessarily "extrapolated into a societal issue" regardless of race.  Which is not to mean that schoolyard violence is always equivalent to adult violence.)

     

     

     
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    [QUOTE]Ultimately, I think it's a stretch to extrapolate schoolyard brawls onto the rest of society - white or black.  The only difference here is that it was caught on camera. This is more about bullying and intimidation than either race or drugs, IMO.  And I would say the same if the racial profiles were reversed.

     

     

     

     

    Completely agree, but you're also completely missing the point.

    The point is that the only violence that is extrapolated into a societal issue is "white on black" violence and the only reason for that is because of professional race baiters. The point of pointing out "black on black" and "black on white" violence is to show the absolute hypocrisy of these professional race baiters and their supporters in the media and the political class.

     

     

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    So, the "professional race baiters" are the sole reason why race relations happen to be strained in this country...??  Really?!!  (as opposed to the "professional racists", of course)

     

     

     

    That leaves out a huge chunk of history which is prologue to now.

    There is no time in American history (or world history for that matter) lacking for racial animosity - none - despite the fact that minorities in this country hold more power and respect now than at any other time before.

     

    So, tell me why you think this is not just a product of the media's massive distortion of a heretofore existing, underlying problem that fails to connect the real story with the overall narrative.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    "So, the "professional race baiters" are the sole reason why race relations happen to be strained in this country...??"

     

     

     

    I don't believe that was what he was trying to say. At least I didn't take it that way.

     

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    "...the only violence that is extrapolated into a societal issue is "white on black" violence and the only reason for that is because of professional race baiters. "

     


    Which way did you take it?

     

    (Leaving aside for a minute the notion that ALL violence is necessarily "extrapolated into a societal issue" regardless of race.  Which is not to mean that schoolyard violence is always equivalent to adult violence.)

     

     

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    I don't believe he was trying to say they are the ONLY reason. 

     
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