Re: Slowest three-year health care spending growth in 52 years
posted at 1/10/2013 5:34 PM EST
In response to MattyScornD's comment:
In response to skeeter20's comment:
These taxes don't effect premiums? Then where is the money going?
Here are a $1 trillion of them:
Medical device tax
Flex account tax
Surtax on investment income
Medicare payroll tax hike
So, where is this TRILLION going? Do you expect me to beleive this isn't going to pay for healthcare? If not, then WHY THE HECK ARE WE PAYING IT????
You liberals are in deep denial. Obamacare is making healthcare MORE expensive for all, well, except those that don't pay. Hard to top paying $0.
First, the medical device excise tax is on receipts in excess of $5M and mainly affects devices used in acute care settings. There are several exemptions.
While I understand that some larger medical device companies will take a hit, the influx of new enrollees into the overall insurance risk pool will mean millions of new healthcare consumers.
There is no "flex account tax"; the maximum allowance was simply standardized and capped at $2,500. A married couple can still contribute $2,500 each for a total of $5,000, if they choose. Before this, employers could set the cap however they wanted. Also now, the cap will be pegged to inflation. (Do you contribute the max to your FSA? Really?!? How sick are you?)
The income investment surtax has nothing to do with healthcare premiums, and the payroll tax cut was always intended to be temporary.
I understand you don't like taxes, but you still haven't successfully argued how any of this translates into higher premiums. Again, the rise in health care costs has slowed relative to the previous decade, in part due to increased efficiencies mandated by the ACA.
Not enough time to argue all your points, which sail right past my question:
All the taxes collected i.e. the Obamacare taxes: Where does the money go?
The money goes somewhere. Tell me where, if it isn't going into subsidizing premiums.
Last chance to answer this simple question you and people on the left don't want to answer.
Look, I know I'm playing chess and you can only play checkers, but let me try this on you:
You pay your premium. you sell your house, you take a capital gain on a stock sale, you buy a medical device, YOU HAVE PAID MORE FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.
Just because you don't see it doesn't mean the additional cost is not there.
Oh, BTW. Wait until your company cans health coverage, and realize you are paying with post tax dollars in these benevolent exchanges, unless you earn under $88K a year as a family.