So, who fell for the, Republicans Cut Embassy Funding joke?

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    The point is Democrats are making it a point, and look stupid.  The guy pointing the finger is one of the 149 that voted for it.

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    I don't know. I respect you Greg, but I think you are unfairly assessing this.

    Original democratic proposal- increase funding to 1.8 billion

    republican counter proposal - decrease funding to $1.4

    Compromise - $1.5

    It would completely make sense to me that more dems would vote for this than repubs.  Dems were clearly not going to get the 1.8 they originally requested so they voted for the compromise. The only thing one can conclude from your argument is that more republicans were opposed to increasing the funding to 1.5 and wanted to keep it at 1.4.

    Voting for this bill was not voting for a decrease. The funding wasn't cut from what it was before both proposals. the 1.5 kept it at about the same level...so it is extremely disengenous for any republican to claim the dems cut funding.

     
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    The point is Democrats are making it a point, and look stupid.  The guy pointing the finger is one of the 149 that voted for it.

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    I don't know. I respect you Greg, but I think you are unfairly assessing this.

    Original democratic proposal- increase funding to 1.8 billion

    republican counter proposal - decrease funding to $1.4

    Compromise - $1.5

    It would completely make sense to me that more dems would vote for this than repubs.  Dems were clearly not going to get the 1.8 they originally requested so they voted for the compromise. The only thing one can conclude from your argument is that more republicans were opposed to increasing the funding to 1.5 and wanted to keep it at 1.4.

    Voting for this bill was not voting for a decrease. The funding wasn't cut from what it was before both proposals. the 1.5 kept it at about the same level...so it is extremely disengenous for any republican to claim the dems cut funding.

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    The whole funding argument is just a stupid liberal diversion.  the emabassador in Paris has a complete security force, but Libya doesn't?

    This is about the Obama administration sc3wing up, and trying t oblame republicans for it.

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    "In testimony Wednesday before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, Charlene Lamb, a deputy assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security, was asked, “Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?”

    Lamb responded, “No, sir.”

     
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    The point is Democrats are making it a point, and look stupid.  The guy pointing the finger is one of the 149 that voted for it.

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    You can't possibly believe this?  The republicans proposed the 330 million in spending cuts.  No Republicans, no cuts.  

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    You can't seriously be blaming the republicans for being fiscally responsible?


    No cuts, no future for this country.

     

    Besides, assets were in the area, they were not used, purposely, obvisouly. The thing we need to find out is why.  WHY did the Obama administration let these four americans die?

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    I disagree with you, but I can follow your logic.  The cuts were the fiscally responsible path, and should not be blamed for the tragedy.  But if you do blame the cuts for the tragedy (like the OP), how in the heck to you pin it on the Dems?

     

     

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    The lax security in Benghazi had nothing to do with funding.

    You are making a fool out of yourself.

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    That's not at issue.  You're making a you out of yourself.

     

     
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    how much more security was needed to fend off the attack?  With additional security, would the number of dead Americans been higher or lower?  

    Short of closing the Consulate, nothing could have prevented the attack.  And short a platoon of marines on duty and expecting an attack, nothing prevents the militants from getting on to the grounds and setting the consulate on fire.  And the only to prevent the Ambassador from being killed was to not have him there.  He was probably killed by the events that set the alarm off.

    i find it odd that the attack occurred after the US Ambassador's meeting with the Turkish Consul General was over.  I also find it odd that the militants knew where they safe house was located.  I suspect the militants had a little inside help.

     
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    how much more security was needed to fend off the attack?  With additional security, would the number of dead Americans been higher or lower?  

    the Death of the Ambassador lies squarely on the shoulders of the Ambassador. put bluntly, he shouldn't have been there.  He should have stayed at the embassy.  

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    The attack was primarily with grenades and fires. Now it's coming to the light of day that the pictures some of the dishonest right on this site were posting weeks ago were actually pictures of Libyan citizens carrying the ambassador out of the consulate to get him medical attention. We now know he died from smoke inhalation.  The dishonest right on this site lack an understanding about how consulates work as opposed to embassies. The dishonest right on this site also lack the knowledge and understanding of foreign relations to understand that Libya did not want armed defense contractors in their neighborhoods. So..DWL..I think the first part of your question is valid. ( even if I completely disagree with the second part of your post) No realistic amount of security would have changed what happened. It was tragic..and senseless..but the only people to be blamed here are the people who attacked the consulate..and we should not lose sight of that.

    Was there a failure of intelligence? Perhaps...but one could also argue that every successful terrorist attack is a failure of intelligence. What does it say about the state of the dishonest right that instead of blaming the terrorists..they blame our own president?

    Imagine if our country had engaged in that kind of blame after the 9/11 attacks? By the logic of those on the right...the Bush administration should be blamed for 9/11.

    We need to remember that no process is perfect. All the intelligence in the world isn't going to stop terrorist attacks..it's just going to reduce them. When tragedies like this happen it should bring us closer togeterh as a country...but that doesn't seem  to fit in with this new dishonest right's agenda.

     
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    Can't wait for 12-angrymen's reaction when in November the "wingnut controlled" HoR is joined by a "wingnut controlled" US Senate and a "wingnut controlled" White House....

    Prolly will make Joe Biden's meltdown look mild by comparison...

     
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    The point is Democrats are making it a point, and look stupid.  The guy pointing the finger is one of the 149 that voted for it.

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    You can't possibly believe this?  The republicans proposed the 330 million in spending cuts.  No Republicans, no cuts.  

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    You can't seriously be blaming the republicans for being fiscally responsible?


    No cuts, no future for this country.

     

    Besides, assets were in the area, they were not used, purposely, obvisouly. The thing we need to find out is why.  WHY did the Obama administration let these four americans die?

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    I disagree with you, but I can follow your logic.  The cuts were the fiscally responsible path, and should not be blamed for the tragedy.  But if you do blame the cuts for the tragedy (like the OP), how in the heck to you pin it on the Dems?

     

     

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    The lax security in Benghazi had nothing to do with funding.

    You are making a fool out of yourself.

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    That's not at issue.  You're making a you out of yourself.

     

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    I see the republican funding issue is getting tons of support even from the drive by media.

    Why there was a spontaneous attack by the locals they  knew the consulate security funding was blocked by the republican house of representatives overriding the democrat senate and president.

    The locals in Benghazi also knew the republican house of represenatives could not stop the funding for sesame street though.

     
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    The point is Democrats are making it a point, and look stupid.  The guy pointing the finger is one of the 149 that voted for it.

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    You can't possibly believe this?  The republicans proposed the 330 million in spending cuts.  No Republicans, no cuts.  

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    You can't seriously be blaming the republicans for being fiscally responsible?


    No cuts, no future for this country.

     

    Besides, assets were in the area, they were not used, purposely, obvisouly. The thing we need to find out is why.  WHY did the Obama administration let these four americans die?

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    I disagree with you, but I can follow your logic.  The cuts were the fiscally responsible path, and should not be blamed for the tragedy.  But if you do blame the cuts for the tragedy (like the OP), how in the heck to you pin it on the Dems?

     

     

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    The lax security in Benghazi had nothing to do with funding.

    You are making a fool out of yourself.

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    That's not at issue.  You're making a you out of yourself.

     

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    The person in charge at the state department stated, in sworn testimony, that funding was not an issue.

    How can funding be an issue when THE PERSON IN CHARGE SAYS IT ISN'T?????

     
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    The point is Democrats are making it a point, and look stupid.  The guy pointing the finger is one of the 149 that voted for it.

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    You can't possibly believe this?  The republicans proposed the 330 million in spending cuts.  No Republicans, no cuts.  

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    You can't seriously be blaming the republicans for being fiscally responsible?


    No cuts, no future for this country.

     

    Besides, assets were in the area, they were not used, purposely, obvisouly. The thing we need to find out is why.  WHY did the Obama administration let these four americans die?

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    I disagree with you, but I can follow your logic.  The cuts were the fiscally responsible path, and should not be blamed for the tragedy.  But if you do blame the cuts for the tragedy (like the OP), how in the heck to you pin it on the Dems?

     

     

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    The lax security in Benghazi had nothing to do with funding.

    You are making a fool out of yourself.

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    That's not at issue.  You're making a you out of yourself.

     

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    The person in charge at the state department stated, in sworn testimony, that funding was not an issue.

    How can funding be an issue when THE PERSON IN CHARGE SAYS IT ISN'T?????

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    Easy.

    Joe Biden shouted over them.

     
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    Biden laughed? Like Romney? That's all?

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    The person in charge at the state department stated, in sworn testimony, that funding was not an issue.

    How can funding be an issue when THE PERSON IN CHARGE SAYS IT ISN'T?????

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    I agree - funding has nothing to do with the attack.  And neither does a request for security for the Tripoli embassy have anything to do with an attack in Benghazi.  This has just been republicans politicizing a tragedy since day one.

    But this is beside the point of the OP, who claims that if Obama made a request for 1.8 billion, and the republicans countered with 1.5, and the bill pased with two more Democrat votes than Republican votes, that the Dems actually cut the 300 million out of the request.  It boggles the mind.

     

     
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    House Democrats opened Wednesday’s House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing by attacking Republicans for cuts to embassy security funding— cuts that only happened thanks to overwhelming support from House Democrats, including House Oversight Committee Ranking Democratic member Rep. Elijah Cummings.

    In fact, more House Democrats – 149 of them — voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

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    Who fell for it?

    the poster known as slomag.

     
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    House Democrats opened Wednesday’s House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing by attacking Republicans for cuts to embassy security funding— cuts that only happened thanks to overwhelming support from House Democrats, including House Oversight Committee Ranking Democratic member Rep. Elijah Cummings.

    In fact, more House Democrats – 149 of them — voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

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    So now, after jumping into the conversation four times with "points" unrelated to the conversation, you've decided that you do, in fact, believe that the Dems are responsible for the embassy security cuts, despite the fact that they were proposed by the Republicans.  

    It's amazing you people can feed yourselves.

     

     
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    House Democrats opened Wednesday’s House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing by attacking Republicans for cuts to embassy security funding— cuts that only happened thanks to overwhelming support from House Democrats, including House Oversight Committee Ranking Democratic member Rep. Elijah Cummings.

    In fact, more House Democrats – 149 of them — voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

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    So now, after jumping into the conversation four times with "points" unrelated to the conversation, you've decided that you do, in fact, believe that the Dems are responsible for the embassy security cuts, despite the fact that they were proposed by the Republicans.  

    It's amazing you people can feed yourselves.

     

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    House Democrats opened Wednesday’s House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing by attacking Republicans for cuts to embassy security funding— cuts that only happened thanks to overwhelming support from House Democrats, including House Oversight Committee Ranking Democratic member Rep. Elijah Cummings.

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    So now, after jumping into the conversation four times with "points" unrelated to the conversation, you've decided that you do, in fact, believe that the Dems are responsible for the embassy security cuts, despite the fact that they were proposed by the Republicans.  

    It's amazing you people can feed yourselves.

     

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    I always found it ironic that conservatives use this analogy of "drinking the kool-aid".  They do so in lock-step, because they heard Sean Hannity and their conservative buddies use the phrase use the phrase over and over.  Most don't even know the origin.

     

     

     
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    House Democrats opened Wednesday’s House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing by attacking Republicans for cuts to embassy security funding— cuts that only happened thanks to overwhelming support from House Democrats, including House Oversight Committee Ranking Democratic member Rep. Elijah Cummings.

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    So now, after jumping into the conversation four times with "points" unrelated to the conversation, you've decided that you do, in fact, believe that the Dems are responsible for the embassy security cuts, despite the fact that they were proposed by the Republicans.  

    It's amazing you people can feed yourselves.

     

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    I always found it ironic that conservatives use this analogy of "drinking the kool-aid".  They do so in lock-step, because they heard Sean Hannity and their conservative buddies use the phrase use the phrase over and over.  Most don't even know the origin.

     

     

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    Really?

    I recall the origin of the expression was in reference to Jimmy Jones and the People's Temple cult mass suicide after drinking a koolaid type drink.

    I used it because I view you and your ilk more of a cult.

     
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    House Democrats opened Wednesday’s House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing by attacking Republicans for cuts to embassy security funding— cuts that only happened thanks to overwhelming support from House Democrats, including House Oversight Committee Ranking Democratic member Rep. Elijah Cummings.

    In fact, more House Democrats – 149 of them — voted for the cuts than did House Republicans, of which 147 voted for them.

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    So now, after jumping into the conversation four times with "points" unrelated to the conversation, you've decided that you do, in fact, believe that the Dems are responsible for the embassy security cuts, despite the fact that they were proposed by the Republicans.  

    It's amazing you people can feed yourselves.

     

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    I always found it ironic that conservatives use this analogy of "drinking the kool-aid".  They do so in lock-step, because they heard Sean Hannity and their conservative buddies use the phrase use the phrase over and over.  Most don't even know the origin.

     

     

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    Really?

    I recall the origin of the expression was in reference to Jimmy Jones and the People's Temple cult mass suicide after drinking a koolaid type drink.

    I used it because I view you and your ilk more of a cult.

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    Really?  You came up with the expression all by yourself?  You must have been proud to then hear Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham and Rush Limbaugh adopt your analogy, and pass it along to their independent-thinking audience.

    Irony.

     

     
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    House Democrats opened Wednesday’s House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing by attacking Republicans for cuts to embassy security funding— cuts that only happened thanks to overwhelming support from House Democrats, including House Oversight Committee Ranking Democratic member Rep. Elijah Cummings.

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    Who fell for it?

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    So now, after jumping into the conversation four times with "points" unrelated to the conversation, you've decided that you do, in fact, believe that the Dems are responsible for the embassy security cuts, despite the fact that they were proposed by the Republicans.  

    It's amazing you people can feed yourselves.

     

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    I always found it ironic that conservatives use this analogy of "drinking the kool-aid".  They do so in lock-step, because they heard Sean Hannity and their conservative buddies use the phrase use the phrase over and over.  Most don't even know the origin.

     

     

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    Really?

    I recall the origin of the expression was in reference to Jimmy Jones and the People's Temple cult mass suicide after drinking a koolaid type drink.

    I used it because I view you and your ilk more of a cult.

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    Really?  You came up with the expression all by yourself?  You must have been proud to then hear Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham and Rush Limbaugh adopt your analogy, and pass it along to their independent-thinking audience.

    Irony.

     

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    You must be a wet behind your ears kid. 

    Koolaid driinkers as an expression has been used widely in politics for decades.  

     
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