Re: Tea Party as 'Neo-Confederates'...?
posted at 8/3/2011 1:42 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Tea Party as 'Neo-Confederates'...?
In Response to Re: Tea Party as 'Neo-Confederates'...? : Matty, you asked for a direct reponse, I gave it, and now you dance around with a big heaping bowl of nothing. "1) you respond to a perceived regional stereotype with...another regional stereotype. Nice job." No I didnt, quite the opposite. The point is, the population of the South is full of transplants, and the influence of mass communications and interstate highways minimizes these regional stereotypes. That the South was once the home of the Confederacy means little regarding the Tea Party ; like saying Massachusetts politics is liberal due to the influence of "Shay's Rebellion", or the War of 1812. 'if Brown and Christie are products of the movement, then they are also party to its machinations" Um, that doesnt rebut my point that it is a national movement. You lose.
Posted by BobinVa
The West is full of transplants, too, but they are underrepresented in the tea party vs. the South. The movement is spread out (as the author says), but that's not the same as being national. He's saying its roots are historically southern and gives his evidence for this. The 'regional' argument/precedent is historical, i.e., farther back than just our era of mass communications and highways. (Plus, Brown and Christie were elected despite the lack of tea party representation in their states, not because of it.)
Ah...here's the thing:
If a conservative historian tried to make the case that Massachusetts IS more liberal because of Shay's or the War of 1812 (or maybe Harvard?), and I disagreed, then shouldn't I be required, as a matter of debate protocol, to provide evidence for WHY the author's conclusion is wrong, other than just saying I'm offended or The author is biased or I don't like it...??
bobin, you can't pretend that you're immune to making obtuse, even silly allegations against either liberals, or elites, or northeasterners or any other part of the political system you don't like. I'm not immune either, but then I never claimed to be.
According to you, only right-wing favoring articles are valid and beyond reproach, while left-wing favoring articles should be dismissed automatically and not discussed at all regardless of their premise.