TEA PARTY SUPPORT HITS A NEAR-RECORD LOW

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    The Tea Party has to look up to see down

     
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    Weren't they supposed to stand for fiscal conservativism?

     

    Because there's nothing fiscally conservative about shutting down the government over a hissy fit.

     

     
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    "pushing PBS stations to air "Citizen Koch," the thus-far-censored documentary exposing the Koch Brothers as the Tea Party's 1% financiers."

    Wonder why State-run and financed media PBS doesnt do its duty, running more leftist propaganda on the Government's behalf ? 

    The only "censored" documentaries are those like the conservative "Citizens United" group tried to produce, which were censored by Government bureaucrats. Thank goodness the US Supreme Court recognized the First Amendment.

     
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    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

    ObamaCare was never popular, and is now less popular than ever.


    It's popular enough that the people favor revision over repeal by a wide margin.

     

    And it was always more popular than the naked tactic of shutting down the government over it.

     

     
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    In response to andiejen's comment:

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    "pushing PBS stations to air "Citizen Koch," the thus-far-censored documentary exposing the Koch Brothers as the Tea Party's 1% financiers."

    Wonder why State-run and financed media PBS doesnt do its duty, running more leftist propaganda on the Government's behalf ? 

    The only "censored" documentaries are those like the conservative "Citizens United" group tried to produce, which were censored by Government bureaucrats. Thank goodness the US Supreme Court recognized the First Amendment.

     



     

    CLC,

    I beg to differ. PBS did in fact decline to show this documentary due to pressure from the Koch brothers. See below.

     

    The Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) has bowed to pressure from the powerful Koch brothers and declined to show a documentary critical of the Kochs and the role of money in American politics. The documentary, titledCitizen Koch and directed by Academy Award-nominated filmmakers Carl Deal and Tia Lessin, focuses on the Wisconsin uprising and the role played by big money interests such as the Koch's in Governor Scott Walker's 2010 election and his efforts to limit collective bargaining. As Jane Mayer of the New Yorkerwrites, the film was pulled by PBS for fear of offending the billionaire Koch brothers, who have given $23 million to public broadcasting.

     



    Ironic that the Koches gave $23 million to public television, which is of course perilously liberal and routinely demonizes them. The Koch brothers also contribute money in support of gay marriage...

    Maybe they ought to stop giving to ungrateful liberals....of course, George Soros funds all kinds of media, like the excreable liars at Media Matters...they all spin for his leftist causes...dont expect a PBS documentary on him any time soon.

     
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    Yes, I think the Tea Party now is rated just above getting poked in the eyes with a "sharp wooden stick" and just below having your head squeezed in a vise. But many intelligent Americans still prefer the Tea Party to watching 'Dancing With The Stars.'

    Of course, Random House, publishers of the Dr. Seuss children's books were extremely grateful to Ted Cruz for bringing attention to these books that people in politics really don't appreciate as much as they once did.

    There is lots to be learned in Washington from these marvelous books, such as :

    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better, it's not."

    "Today was good, today was fun. Tomorrow is another one."

    "From there to here and here to there , funny things are everywhere."

    "The more that you read, the more things you will know, the more that you learn the more places you'll go."

     

     

     
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    Some of these Tea Partiers have an exaggerated sense of their popularity.  When Ted Cruz was yammering on last week about how "the majority of Americans want to repeal Obamacare", the reality is nowhere near that. 

    I think he just logs onto Twitter and gets more self-obsessed as he reads thru the support on his own echo chamber.    He feels as if the entire nation is cheering his every word, when in reality its just a tiny sliver of mouth-breathing Tea Partiers pounding away on their computers.

     
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    There's nothing ironic about the Koch bros leaning hard on PBS not to show something they disapprove of.

    Isn't that what they pay for?  To influence the media??

     
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    Despite the cancelled PBS documentary, I think most are aware of what creeps the Kochs are.  These guys willingly squander billions of their inherited money on losing political causes, yet they would howl like toddlers if you raised their tax bill by a centimeter. Penny-wise, pound foolish.....and lousy citizens.

     

     


     

     
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    Meanwhile plans for a Hillary Clinton documentary that BDC conservatives claimed was an underhanded Clintonian strategy to boost "Hillary 2016" is pulled.....

     

    ....because Clinton didn't want it made.

     
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    There's nothing ironic about the Koch bros leaning hard on PBS not to show something they disapprove of.

    Isn't that what they pay for?  To influence the media??



    I agree the Koch Brothers $23 million contribution may in theory make the network think twice about crossing its contributor...

    The US Government subsidizes PBS and NPR to the tune of $445 million a year. Do you agree, then,  the Government funding is also to "pay for" state-friendly biased media, to support the progressive Statist philosophy? Do you think PBS will favorably cover conservatives favoring limited Government, and who do not want to  fund PBS and NPR?

    The Government gets what it pays for....PBS and NPR are liberal pro- Big Government propaganda outlets.

     

     
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    Meanwhile plans for a Hillary Clinton documentary that BDC conservatives claimed was an underhanded Clintonian strategy to boost "Hillary 2016" is pulled.....

     

    ....because Clinton didn't want it made.

     



    Kind of proves the point.....conservatives didnt want it made, didnt matter a whit.

     

    But when the Clintons recently decided they didnt want it made, after all: all Clinton associates were ordered not to talk ..the documentary was shelved.

     
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    Kind of proves the point.....conservatives didnt want it made, didnt matter a whit.


    Why should it matter if conservatives didn't want it made? Tough t!tties for them if it was. They can always make a counter-show about Sarah Palin shooting polar bears and being rugged or something.

     
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    Br'er Crankup did you realize that Stalin indirectly funded the Tea Party ...... The Koch Brothers father made money hand over fist way back in 1920's building refineries and laying down the infrastructure of today's Russian oil industry .

     
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    Interesting. Apparently the concerted harrassment by the IRS and other governmental agencies has had it's desired effect.

    Still, assuming all that is true, i don't really understand the results of this poll:


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2013/09/30/americans-are-more-conservative-than-they-have-been-in-decades/

    Americans are more conservative than they have been in decades

    James Stimson knows as much about public opinion as anyone in America. He has been tracking the nation’s policy preferences for more than 20 years using a “policy mood” index derived from responses to a wide variety of opinion surveys involving hundreds of specific policy questions on topics ranging from taxes and spending to environmental regulation to gun control.

    The latest update of Stimson’s policy mood series suggests that the American public in 2012 was more conservative than at any point since 1952. (Actually, since mood in each year is estimated with some error, it seems safer to say that the current level of conservatism roughly equals the previous highs recorded in 1980 and 1952.) While the slight increase in conservatism from 2011 to 2012 is too small to be significant, it continues a marked trend that began as soon as Barack Obama moved into the White House.

     

    It seems like these two polls are contradictory, no?

     

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    The Koch Brothers father made money hand over fist way back in 1920's building refineries and laying down the infrastructure of today's Russian oil industry .

    What? Suddenly progressives are down on Stalin? Holy Walter Duranty's ghost!

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    There's nothing ironic about the Koch bros leaning hard on PBS not to show something they disapprove of.

    Isn't that what they pay for?  To influence the media??

     



     

    I agree the Koch Brothers $23 million contribution may in theory make the network think twice about crossing its contributor...

    The US Government subsidizes PBS and NPR to the tune of $445 million a year. Do you agree, then,  the Government funding is also to "pay for" state-friendly biased media, to support the progressive Statist philosophy? Do you think PBS will favorably cover conservatives favoring limited Government, and who do not want to  fund PBS and NPR?

    The Government gets what it pays for....PBS and NPR are liberal pro- Big Government propaganda outlets.

     

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    That's your opinion.  The previous was mine.

    For all I know, the Kochs really like Charlie Rose and Downton Abbey.  It's certainly possible, but without their comment, it looks like they got this particular doc pulled.

    If you can point to the U.S. Government telling PBS stations to pull certain programming that they thought might be too critical of Govt, then you might have a case.

    Otherwise, you're just spinning your wheels again.

     

    The more likely, less interesting story is that there is a dire need for intelligent, thought-provoking, and educational television unsullied by vapid commercials...

    ...though no less dependent upon commercial interests.  PBS gets only a small fraction of its funding from government...

    ...so, by your logic, that is the percentage which may qualify as "pro-govt" (what your examples are is anyone's guess).

     

    By all means though, keep shooting the messenger and see if the credibility of your arguments improve....

     

     

     
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    [QUTOE]The Koch Brothers father made money hand over fist way back in 1920's building refineries and laying down the infrastructure of today's Russian oil industry .

    What? Suddenly progressives are down on Stalin? Holy Walter Duranty's ghost!

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