The 97 Percent Figure on Global Warming the Media Won't Tell You About

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    The 97 Percent Figure on Global Warming the Media Won't Tell You About

    There’s a magic number the news media likes to cite whenever the United Nations releases a new report on Global Warming. The public is constantly told that 97 percent of scientific experts agree that human activity is responsible for dangerous levels of global warming. Therefore, the U.S., and other western nations, must dramatically reshape public policy with an eye toward reducing fossil fuels. But it doesn’t take a lot of investigation to take down that 97 percent figure and expose the gamesmanship and duplicity advanced under the cover of “science.”

    Lawrence Solomon, executive director of Energy Probe and author of The Deniers, carefully explains how dishonest researchers cooked the books:

    “The number stems from a 2009 online survey of 10,257 earth scientists, conducted by two researchers at the University of Illinois,” he wrote in a 2010 article. “The survey results must have deeply disappointed the researchers – in the end, they chose to highlight the views of a subgroup of just 77 scientists, 75 of whom thought humans contributed to climate change. The ratio 75/77 produces the 97 percent figure that pundits now tout.”

    This rejoinder to the 97 percent figure concerning the so-called “scientific consensus” is not typically reported as it would complicate the political agenda attached to global warming alarmism. But there is a new 97 percent number concerning the latest U.N. report that goes unmentioned. John Droz, a physicist and mathematician, who heads up the Alliance for Wise Energy Decisions (AWED), has just released an independent study that shows 97 percent of the computer models attached to the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) overestimate the amount of carbon dioxide induced warming. Droz’s study probes into the draft version of the U.N.’s Fifth Assessment, which was released in September.

    “How come we don’t see the media publicizing this 97 percent consensus?” he asks. “In light of these realities, for the IPCC to claim that they now have an even higher confidence in their conclusions, is simply political posturing to justify their existence. The bottom line is that there is an extraordinarily large amount of understanding of this issue that we simply do not have. To spend tens of trillions of dollars to ‘fix’ something we don't understand is insanity.”



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    Re: The 97 Percent Figure on Global Warming the Media Won't Tell You About

    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:
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    In a previous thread, I posted a graph showing the results of reviews of hundreds of studies PER YEAR, and the 98% figure held.

    Leave it to you to lie and distract.

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    Where is the lie?

     
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    [QUOTE]In a previous thread, I posted a graph showing the results of reviews of hundreds of studies PER YEAR, and the 98% figure held.[/QUOTE]

    He posted a graph. So STHU.

     

     
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    Oh look, twinkletoes posted a graph too. The proofs just keep rolling in.

     

     
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    Re: The 97 Percent Figure on Global Warming the Media Won't Tell You About

    [QUOTE]Who would you consult for surgery?[/QUOTE]

    A bureaucrat in Washington! Oh, wait...

     

     
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    Re: The 97 Percent Figure on Global Warming the Media Won't Tell You About

    Don't forget the hocky stick graphs, we know how you love those, Eh?

     

     
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    Re: The 97 Percent Figure on Global Warming the Media Won't Tell You About

    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:
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    Seriously people. Just admit it: You just don't want to pay the price of consuming energy without messing up the environment. You're only seeing the very beginning of the effects. It's your children and grandchildren who will see the more serious effects. So kick the can down the road, and if anyone calls you on it say "shut up because Obama deficits".

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    I can tell you from my perspective you are wrong. We are already paying a lot to mitigate pollution. Curbing CO2 emissions will not do anything to improve that and it will drain resources away from programs that do curb pollution. I do not mind paying to keep the consumption of energy from messing up the environment, but what is being proposed to do that is waste of time and money.

    What if we spend all these billions to control CO2 and it doesn't work to curb the climate effects? Where are we then? Treading water. Better to do something that will work.

     
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    Re: The 97 Percent Figure on Global Warming the Media Won't Tell You About

    In response to A_Concerned_Citizen's comment:
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    Heh, heh, heh ... still drinking the echo chamber kool-aide I see.

     

    The survey explicitly states that the 97% figure is from climate scientists who publish peer-reviewed papers on the subject.

    In other words: There's a reason that the 97% figure is accurate; Because those are the expert working climate scientists who publish peer-reveiwed papers.

    As you move further down the list; 'active publishers' on climate change, they agree at a 90% rate, climatologists 87%, general scientists 78%.

    Who would you consult for surgery? A general practitioner or the best surgeon in that field.

    http://tigger.uic.edu/~pdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf

     

    The results were that 97% of actively publishing climate scientists are convinced by the evidence of anthropogenic climate change. They also found that those scientists that were unconvinced had significantly fewer publications (in any science) than those that were convinced. This suggests that the "unconvinced" group actually has done a lot less research.

     

    public and scientific opinion on climate change

     

    This study was done in order to address the broader question of public opinion versus scientific opinion. It asked two questions, one about whether temperature is increasing, and one about whether or not human activity is contributing to any change. Here are the results:

    Question #1: When compared with pre-1800s levels, do you think that mean global temperatures have generally risen, fallen, or remained relatively constant?

        About 90% of all the scientists and

    97% of the climate scientists said temperatures had risen.

    Question #2: Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?

        About 82% of all the scientists and

    97% climate scientists agreed that human activity is a significant contributing factor.

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    ..yet the evidence goes against their belief.  Strange....

     
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    Re: The 97 Percent Figure on Global Warming the Media Won't Tell You About

    Climate change deniers...

    ...denying climate change.

     

    Imagine that....

     

     

     
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    Re: The 97 Percent Figure on Global Warming the Media Won't Tell You About

    [QUOTE]Climate change deniers... ...denying climate change.[/QUOTE]

    Burn her! She's a witch!

    But how do you know she's a witch?

    She turned me into a newt!

    ...

    ...

    ... .

    ...

    I got better.

     
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