Re: The Conservative Case For Gun Control
posted at 3/21/2013 8:29 AM EDT
In response to FortySixAndTwo's comment:
In response to MattyScornD's comment:
In response to tvoter's comment:
If we did not have guns these people would still exist and there would still be mass murders of the same numbers just with different weapons or methods!!
Remove politics and address the issue
Let's address that outlandish statement and hear your argument to back it up...
As the man said, "Guns don't kill people...but the gun helps."
Suppose Jared Loughner had brandished, say, a baseball bat embedded with spikes (a la Escape From New York). Could he have killed as many people in Tucson before he was eventually disarmed?
Can we save some money by equipping our law enforcement, military, border patrol, etc. with machetes or crossbows...?
So if the issue is guns then why no call for banning ALL guns? Why only ask to ban "assault weapons"? The banning of assault weapons, which I'm not against, is in reality a joke. The reason is because there will still be MILLIONS out there.
The other is because of the criteria. Take a stock AR-15 and it's legal. Add two of the following and suddenly it becomes illegal: collaspable stock, flash suppressor, pistol grip, bayonet mount.
So none of the above changes the firepower of an AR-15, yet having any two of those makes the perfectly legal AR-15 now illegal. That is fcuking absurd. It's a fri99in joke.
Simple answer: you cannot ban all guns. The 2nd Amendment and Heller say you can't. That's the law. So it is a nonstarter in terms of the political debate. But it is a fri99in joke and simply immoral to not recognize the problem guns present and not attempt to address the problem within the law. Lanza killed 20 odd kids in five minutes. The nature of the weapon he used greatly facilitated that massacre. Any thinking individual should be able to make that causal connection and realize that the cost of such weapons far exceeds the benefit they have for any individual. But that assumes there is real thinking going on...