"The Debate"

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    There is no joy in Bainville the mighty romney has struck out !

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    You`re not gonna like fact-check.  Obama`s lips moved, he was lying. Already out and proved.

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    jmel old buddy did you like Obama fact checking  romney concerning Obama's statement in the Rose Garden the day after the attack on the consulate being an act of terror ? That was very devastating to romney.  Obama and  even romney himself both allowed America to see romney for being a very small person who will use the death of 4 Americans for his own political gains.

     
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    It was a interesting debate.

    Obama obviously knew what was on the line and did well in some areas.

    Romney was going for the tie and didnt want to seem too aggressive.

    Not clear who won; dems say Obama big, Rep say Romney big.

    Obama didnt even answer the Libya question that would explain to American why the Potus was so confused for 2 weeks after the incident.

    He said I did call it terror the next day and the moderator tried to help him but, what he actuallly said  and the only time the word "terror" was used was;

    "As Americans let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those, both civilian and military, who represent us around the globe.

    No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. 

    He then went on The View and called it a protest over a video, Telemundo - same. It took 2 weeks before he actually said "the attack in Libya was a terrorist attack".

    Dem will defend, repub will call BS but, the voters will decide.

    I think you could say Obama did better in the debate than Romney if for no other reason than he did so much better than the last debate.

    Was it a decisive win that will change independents minds.....I think not but, I am sure the left disagrees!

    Even the NYT's stated that Obama did nothing when tasked with answering "I voted for you and I am disappointed with the progress; what will be different and why should I vote for you again"?

    He went straight to the campaign talking points and did not say anything about what would be different; that may not have excited alot of independents.

    Obama got some good hits in but, not close to the schalacking he took in the first debate.

    20 days!!!

     

     
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    Romney was on the ropes after the Libya question, and then he blew it.  in his final comments, he alludes to his 47% comments.  He doesn't just open the door for Obama to actually say 47%, he leaves Obama no choice but to talk about the 47%.  Terrible ending for Romney.

    romney was rude and pushy.

    he alienated Hispanics.

    he hurt himself with female voters.

    obama hurt him on Bain, hurt him on China.

    he stepped in it on Libya.

    Romney was the Romney we've come to know and despise.

     

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    How about a balanced response for you.

     

    Romney had Obama on the ropes on Libya and Crowley threw him a life jacket with his act of terror statement, a single blind mention when his whole Rose Garden statement was about the shameful  movie protest and how it caused things to get out of control, - apologist once again.  We know it took Obama over 2 weeks to acknowledge that it was a freakin 911 attack on an unprotected Ambassador.  This issue will be back on Monday night and the President will take a beating on it.

     

    Romney did a pre-emptive strike on the 47% because once he knew Obama had the last word he knew it was coming.  He preemptive should have been stronger and alluded to the Preidents own off the cuff comments like the bitter Midwesterners who cling to their guns and bibles.

     

    Romney was pushy but obviously was out pushed by Obama and his debate aid Crowley because he got 4 more minutes and Crowley was constantly telling Romney he was over.

     

    Romney let Hispanics know he was fair and not a threat to them as he wanted legal immigration reform, but wanted businesses to be held accountable for illegal employment.

     

    Romney continued to win with women as he demonstrated that he was for equality in the workplace while seeing the need to accommodate tradition family values with a need for flex time; I now that doesn’t play to young women and liberals but it does play to conservatives and traditional indies.  This is why the gender gap is closing.

     

    Romney level strongly explained how business worked and that jobs didn’t come from trickle down government.  On China we learned how blind trusts like to invest in China whether your Romney or Obama.

     

    Romney was strong and refused to get beat up by Obama and his debate aid Crowley; Obama on the other hand looked snide, refused to answer the questions and he lost his nice guy appeal as now he’s just another abrasive politicaian.



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    Yes it was a spirited debate and the President came to compete.  He look strong to over bearing on style by failed when the fact checkers reviewed his answers.

     

    Libya - the President played fast and loose with his terror statement, when he actually wanted us to believe it was all about a stupid movie.  Nice work by Candy Crowley in throwing the President a life jacket.  If this was football there would have been a penalty for too many men on the field.

     

    Drilling on public land; Romney was strong on this point that production was down as well as number of leases; and he was correct.  The President either categorically lied or he didn't know - both are failures of leadership.

     

    China investments - The President thought he had a gotcha moment on Romney's China investments in his blind trust but Romney got the President when he pointed out that he had China investment too.  Obama's snipe that Romney's portfolio was larger was once again a statement of envy.

     

    Over all the President woke up and competed; too bad for him the fact checkers point out his lies.  On both sides the partisans claim victory; the engaged independents will see the lies, the unengaged independents were swayed by a savvy snake oil salesman from Chicago.

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    Joe was watching the bubble debate outside of normal reality

     

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    The President did a great job of bringing Romney to task for all the blatent lies and flipflops. Romney was outmatched this time. No comparison

    Romney's fantasy "5-Point" tax plan is going to do him in. It just doesn't add up. When Obama renamed it a "1-Point" plan to simply hand over more money to his super rich cohorts, it rang true.

    Then, to be called out as a shameless liar on the events following the Libya incident by an independent journalist in front of millions of American voters is devastating.

    "Binders full of women"?

     

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    Obama had a quick and clever resonse to the 5 point plan, its moronic but it plays well with a large segment of the electorate.

    On Libya Romney was spot on.  Obama's Rose Garden speech was all about the shameful movie and an out of control mob responses where the good people of Libya tried to save the Ambassador.  In this context he mentioned act of terror and Crowley Obama's debate aid jumps up with her lifesaver response.  Now that was shameless.  It took the President over two weeks to admit there was no protest over a stupid movie and that it was a terrorist attack on 911, now he has one.

    Yeah old school business guys put reports in 3 ring binders; its outrageous to work that hard in finding qualified women to ensure qualified diversity in your cabinet.

     

     
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    There is no joy in Bainville the mighty romney has struck out !

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    Whipped Rommney like cream! R-Money lies are many - can't wait on fact check!

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    You`re not gonna like fact-check.  Obama`s lips moved, he was lying. Already out and proved.

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    jmel old buddy did you like Obama fact checking  romney concerning Obama's statement in the Rose Garden the day after the attack on the consulate being an act of terror ? That was very devastating to romney.  Obama and  even romney himself both allowed America to see romney for being a very small person who will use the death of 4 Americans for his own political gains.

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    Are you kidding sis?  Crowley is back-tracking as of 11:00 last night saying "Romney was RIGHT in what he said".  This was a BLATANT lie by Obama.  I watched the rose garden speech and have re-read it already this morning.  4 times in that speech Obama says "reaction to a video".  His statement at the end about "no act of terror" is NOT EVEN RELATED to the Libya attack.  This was a lie and fact-check (already this morning) is eating Obama up.

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    Obama stated in his speech in the Rose Garden the morning after the attack in Benghazi  " that no acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation......... we will not waver in our commitment to see justice is done  for this terrible act...... . Those are Obama's words not mine .

     
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     Toss up. Obama predictably came out fiestier, more coherent and angrier and looked like he was going to pop a vein towards the end of the debate when Romney tried to interupt him. The pension line was classic, and Romney's Binders full of Women line was just bizzare. Romney is a good debater so you knew he would not change styles tonight and I think that hurt him a bit, but he still did well enough to satisfy his base. I would still like to hear some actual specifics from both candidates other than sound-bites on how we need to reduce the deficit and the need to create high paying, good jobs. I'm not sure either candidate moved the ball all that much. Crowley did a good job. 

    Oh, come on Polar, you know it wasn't a toss up.  :)    And Crowley?   Um ....

    The quote I keep going back to, which was in evidence last night is: "beware the fury of a patient man" -- and Obama came out last night and proved it.   

    Nothing can erase Romney's rudeness to Obama, even in a debate.   It's an all-time low to hear a candidate for the office of the POTUS yelling "have you looked at your pension??" over and over, cutting off the President when he tried to speak.   

    Not only was this out of control rudeness, but, since when do any of us working stiffs have pensions these days? hahahah.    Most of us have a 401K, if we're lucky; pensions are for federal and municipal government employees and a smattering of others who are grandfathered into their employers ... but pensions?   They have been phased out; there are young people in the workforce who've never heard of a pension plan.   

    So what if Obama made a joke as a retort?  It was what Romney deserved.  

    Obama was glaring and relentless cutting Romney off at the knees.  Romney held his own, but he was clearly aggitated.   The flip-flopping does come back to haunt, you know?  

    The moderator was also a disgrace.   This is the best person they could find?   Should have borrowed Romney's "binders" to find a more qualified, dignified person.  

     
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    Yeah old school business guys put reports in 3 ring binders; its outrageous to work that hard in finding qualified women to ensure qualified diversity in your cabinet.

     

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    Sorry Joe......The "Binders full of women" line was nothing but another lie.

    What actually happened was that in 2002—prior to the election, not even knowing yet whether it would be a Republican or Democratic administration—a bipartisan group of women in Massachusetts formed MassGAP to address the problem of few women in senior leadership positions in state government. There were more than 40 organizations involved with the Massachusetts Women’s Political Caucus (also bipartisan) as the lead sponsor.

    They did the research and put together the binder full of women qualified for all the different cabinet positions, agency heads, and authorities and commissions. They presented this binder to Governor Romney when he was elected.

    Oh, and once he had those binders? He hired women for agencies he then cut the funding for.

    There were actually fewer women in executive positions when Romney left office than there were when he started.

    This pathetic man can't tell the truth about anything.


     

     
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    Obama "performed" much better than debate #1, how could he not?  Substance was the same, no record, spread the lies.

    Still doesn't change his record, or the state of the country, gas at 4 bucks, etc.  Hillary took the bullet, then Barry stepped up, geeeeeeee, that was clever!

    It's taking hold, and last night only slowed the bleeding, the voters are waking up.  That's why Romney is gaining, debate #1 was just the catalyst for the media.

    I watched the whole thing, I'm voting for Romney anyways, he was the same that he was in #1.  It's easy when you have good material........

     
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    Obama stated in his speech in the Rose Garden the morning after the attack in Benghazi  " that no acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation......... we will not waver in our commitment to see justice is done  for this terrible act...... . Those are Obama's words not mine .

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    In the debate he claimed "I called the attack and act of terrorism in the rose garden"

    Saying "that no acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation" IS NOT calling the Libya attack and act of terror; and then 2 weeks later in front of the UN he called it a protest over a movie over and over!!!!

    The voters will see right through this charade!

    He cannot have it both ways!!

     
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    Obama stated in his speech in the Rose Garden the morning after the attack in Benghazi  " that no acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation......... we will not waver in our commitment to see justice is done  for this terrible act...... . Those are Obama's words not mine .

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    In the debate he claimed "I called the attack and act of terrorism in the rose garden"

    Saying "that no acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation" IS NOT calling the Libya attack and act of terror; and then 2 weeks later in front of the UN he called it a protest over a movie over and over!!!!

    The voters will see right through this charade!

    He cannot have it both ways!!

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    The voters will see it for what it is.....Romney cheaply politicizing the deaths of 4 Americans.

     
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    Obama stated in his speech in the Rose Garden the morning after the attack in Benghazi  " that no acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation......... we will not waver in our commitment to see justice is done  for this terrible act...... . Those are Obama's words not mine .

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    In the debate he claimed "I called the attack and act of terrorism in the rose garden"

    Saying "that no acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation" IS NOT calling the Libya attack and act of terror; and then 2 weeks later in front of the UN he called it a protest over a movie over and over!!!!

    The voters will see right through this charade!

    He cannot have it both ways!!

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    The voters will see it for what it is.....Romney cheaply politicizing the deaths of 4 Americans.

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    By the end of the day, it'll be Romney's fault again, you're already starting.  Guess it wasn't that great of a "performance" after all.

    Your material is old, the tides have changed, better get used to the saying:

    "Lame-Duck" President, cuz he's gonna be pizzed when he loses.

     
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     Toss up. Obama predictably came out fiestier, more coherent and angrier and looked like he was going to pop a vein towards the end of the debate when Romney tried to interupt him. The pension line was classic, and Romney's Binders full of Women line was just bizzare. Romney is a good debater so you knew he would not change styles tonight and I think that hurt him a bit, but he still did well enough to satisfy his base. I would still like to hear some actual specifics from both candidates other than sound-bites on how we need to reduce the deficit and the need to create high paying, good jobs. I'm not sure either candidate moved the ball all that much. Crowley did a good job. 

     

    Oh, come on Polar, you know it wasn't a toss up.  :)    And Crowley?   Um ....

    The quote I keep going back to, which was in evidence last night is: "beware the fury of a patient man" -- and Obama came out last night and proved it.   

    Nothing can erase Romney's rudeness to Obama, even in a debate.   It's an all-time low to hear a candidate for the office of the POTUS yelling "have you looked at your pension??" over and over, cutting off the President when he tried to speak.   

    Not only was this out of control rudeness, but, since when do any of us working stiffs have pensions these days? hahahah.    Most of us have a 401K, if we're lucky; pensions are for federal and municipal government employees and a smattering of others who are grandfathered into their employers ... but pensions?   They have been phased out; there are young people in the workforce who've never heard of a pension plan.   

    So what if Obama made a joke as a retort?  It was what Romney deserved.  

    Obama was glaring and relentless cutting Romney off at the knees.  Romney held his own, but he was clearly aggitated.   The flip-flopping does come back to haunt, you know?  

    The moderator was also a disgrace.   This is the best person they could find?   Should have borrowed Romney's "binders" to find a more qualified, dignified person.  

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    Ok I will admit Crowley sucked, but it did elicit a response :)  I still think last night was not that much of a game changer. The President did what he needed to do which was to energize his base, and remind people why they voted for him last time around.  He did that.  When Obama is on, he is very hard to beat, and I think Romney quickly realized last night that this was a different OB and got increasingly frustrated as the debate wore on. The pension comment was stupid on Romneys part and the Obama retort was great.  As far as the overall tone of the debate, rudeness, yes, but this is for the Presidency, and the way that politics have evolved in this country of late,  manners no longer apply. You want rudeness look no further than the Warren/Brown fiasco. The commercials those two are running makes last nights debate look like Sesame Street.

     

     

     

     

     

     
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     Toss up. Obama predictably came out fiestier, more coherent and angrier and looked like he was going to pop a vein towards the end of the debate when Romney tried to interupt him. The pension line was classic, and Romney's Binders full of Women line was just bizzare. Romney is a good debater so you knew he would not change styles tonight and I think that hurt him a bit, but he still did well enough to satisfy his base. I would still like to hear some actual specifics from both candidates other than sound-bites on how we need to reduce the deficit and the need to create high paying, good jobs. I'm not sure either candidate moved the ball all that much. Crowley did a good job. 

     

    Oh, come on Polar, you know it wasn't a toss up.  :)    And Crowley?   Um ....

    The quote I keep going back to, which was in evidence last night is: "beware the fury of a patient man" -- and Obama came out last night and proved it.   

    Nothing can erase Romney's rudeness to Obama, even in a debate.   It's an all-time low to hear a candidate for the office of the POTUS yelling "have you looked at your pension??" over and over, cutting off the President when he tried to speak.   

    Not only was this out of control rudeness, but, since when do any of us working stiffs have pensions these days? hahahah.    Most of us have a 401K, if we're lucky; pensions are for federal and municipal government employees and a smattering of others who are grandfathered into their employers ... but pensions?   They have been phased out; there are young people in the workforce who've never heard of a pension plan.   

    So what if Obama made a joke as a retort?  It was what Romney deserved.  

    Obama was glaring and relentless cutting Romney off at the knees.  Romney held his own, but he was clearly aggitated.   The flip-flopping does come back to haunt, you know?  

    The moderator was also a disgrace.   This is the best person they could find?   Should have borrowed Romney's "binders" to find a more qualified, dignified person.  

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    Ok I will admit Crowley sucked, but it did elicit a response :)  I still think last night was not that much of a game changer. The President did what he needed to do which was to energize his base, and remind people why they voted for him last time around.  He did that.  When Obama is on, he is very hard to beat, and I think Romney quickly realized last night that this was a different OB and got increasingly frustrated as the debate wore on. The pension comment was stupid on Romneys part and the Obama retort was great.  As far as the overall tone of the debate, rudeness, yes, but this is for the Presidency, and the way that politics have evolved in this country to date,  manners no longer apply. You want rudeness look no further than the Warren/Brown fiasco. The commercials these two are running makes last nights debate look like Sesame Street.

     

     

     

     

     

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    BTW, Barrry tried a Big-Bird joke, got crickets.

     
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     Toss up. Obama predictably came out fiestier, more coherent and angrier and looked like he was going to pop a vein towards the end of the debate when Romney tried to interupt him. The pension line was classic, and Romney's Binders full of Women line was just bizzare. Romney is a good debater so you knew he would not change styles tonight and I think that hurt him a bit, but he still did well enough to satisfy his base. I would still like to hear some actual specifics from both candidates other than sound-bites on how we need to reduce the deficit and the need to create high paying, good jobs. I'm not sure either candidate moved the ball all that much. Crowley did a good job. 

     

    Oh, come on Polar, you know it wasn't a toss up.  :)    And Crowley?   Um ....

    The quote I keep going back to, which was in evidence last night is: "beware the fury of a patient man" -- and Obama came out last night and proved it.   

    Nothing can erase Romney's rudeness to Obama, even in a debate.   It's an all-time low to hear a candidate for the office of the POTUS yelling "have you looked at your pension??" over and over, cutting off the President when he tried to speak.   

    Not only was this out of control rudeness, but, since when do any of us working stiffs have pensions these days? hahahah.    Most of us have a 401K, if we're lucky; pensions are for federal and municipal government employees and a smattering of others who are grandfathered into their employers ... but pensions?   They have been phased out; there are young people in the workforce who've never heard of a pension plan.   

    So what if Obama made a joke as a retort?  It was what Romney deserved.  

    Obama was glaring and relentless cutting Romney off at the knees.  Romney held his own, but he was clearly aggitated.   The flip-flopping does come back to haunt, you know?  

    The moderator was also a disgrace.   This is the best person they could find?   Should have borrowed Romney's "binders" to find a more qualified, dignified person.  

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    Rudeness really; it was a debate and Obama refused to answer questionss.  He pokes at Romney about his blind trust with Chain ties OK fair enough but remember its blind.......   So Romney seeing that Obama is making a false point fairly points out that Obama's blind trust pension (401 k from brief law office and book sales)  has similar China investments and Obama thinks he can just ignore the truth.  BTW Obama has a government pension.

     
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    wwwhhhaaaa!!!! lmao

     
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    Romney won!    Things are much worse than they were 4 years ago.  More people are living in poverty.

    That's all I need to know to make my decision on who to vote for.

     
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    Read the speech.  You can find it everywhere with a simple google search.  "no acts of terror" is DIRECTLY spoken towards 911 2001 WTC attacks.  The speech in the rose garden CLEARLY and REPEATEDLY speaks to youtube videos causing a riot.  He then sent Susan Rice out on 5 talk shows saying "video".  Jay Carney said "video" EVERY day!  Obama did not mention al Qaeda, terrorism, or anything to do with a calculated attack until 14 days later.  He went in front of the freakin` UN and said "youtube video for Pete`s sake!  Candy Crowley and all the fact checks today are admitting Obama lied like the sleazeball he is last night.  Why can`t you?

    C`mon sis, be honest.

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    Wrong.  Here is the paragraph to give context.  Unless you are a moron, you can see that it is in direct reference to the Libya attack.  Its the next sentence for christ sake.

    "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America."

     
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    NUMBER 1: President Obama Falsely Claimed He Immediately Characterized The Attacks In Benghazi As Terrorism:

    President Obama: “The Day After The Attack, Governor, I Stood In The Rose Garden, And I Told The American People And The World That We Are Going To Find Out Exactly What Happened, That This Was An Act Of Terror.” (President Barack Obama, Second Presidential Debate, Hempstead, NY, 10/16/12)

    The Washington Post’s Fact Checker: “What Did Obama Say In The Rose Garden A Day After The Attack In Libya? … He Did Not Say ‘Terrorism’…” “What did Obama say in the Rose Garden a day after the attack in Libya? ‘No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this nation,’ he said. But he did not say ‘terrorism’—and it took the administration days to concede that that it an ‘act of terrorism’ that appears unrelated to initial reports of anger at a video that defamed the prophet Muhammad.” (Glenn Kessler, “Fact Check: Libya Attack,” The Washington Post, 10/16/12)

    Politico’s Mike Allen, On President Obama’s Rose Garden Remarks: “He Makes A Reference To 9/11 And He Says, Very Generally, We Will Not Let Acts Of Terror Go Unpunished.” ALLEN: “There's going to be a bunch of fact checks, but just to do a fact check here. … And I'm looking at the transcript of that White House event the day after and he started by referring to them as selfless acts, which is casted very differently than the sort of very planned action that we now have. Later toward the end, he makes a reference to 9/11 and he says, very generally, we will not let acts of terror go unpunished. So that's going to be an arguable point.” (Presidential Debate Wrap-Up, Politico Live, 10/16/12)

    CNN’s Candy Crowley Admitted Mitt Romney “Was Right In The Main.” CROWLEY: “And I think actually, because right after that, I did turn around and say but you are totally correct that they spent two weeks telling us that this was about a tape and that there was this riot outside the Benghazi consulate, which there wasn’t. So he was right in the main, I just think he picked the wrong word. They’re going to parse and we all know what the definition of ‘is’ is, but, you know, in the end, I think John's probably right.” (CNN’s “Debate Night In America,” 10/16/12)

    NUMBER 2: President Obama Repeated His False Attack About A $5 Trillion Tax Cut:

    President Obama: “It Costs About $5 Trillion.” OBAMA: “Look, the cost of lowering rates for everybody across the board 20 percent, along with what he also wants to do in terms of eliminating the estate tax, along what he wants to do in terms of corporates changes in the tax code -- it costs about $5 trillion.” (President Barack Obama, Second Presidential Debate, Hempstead, NY, 10/16/12)

    Obama Deputy Campaign Manager Stephanie Cutter: “Okay, Stipulated, It Won’t Be Near $5 Trillion…” BURNETT: “Right. So you’re saying if you lower them by 20% you get a $5 trillion tab, right?” CUTTER: “It’s a $5 trillion tab.” BURNETT: “But then when you close deductions it’s not going to be anywhere near $5 trillion. That’s our analysis.” CUTTER: “Well, okay, stipulated, it won’t be near $5 trillion, but it’s also not going to be the sum of $5 trillion in the loopholes that he’s going to close.” (CNN, 10/4/12)

    FactCheck.org: “Obama Accused Romney Of Proposing A $5 Trillion Tax Cut. Not True.” “Obama accused Romney of proposing a $5 trillion tax cut. Not true. Romney proposes to offset his rate cuts and promises he won’t add to the deficit.” (Brooks Jackson, “Dubious Denver Debate Declarations.” FactCheck.org, 10/4/12)

    ABC’s Jon Karl, On President Obama’s $5 Trillion Claim: “Mostly Fiction.” KARL: “Okay, so, the big thing there, and he came back to it several times, is Governor Romney has a $5 trillion tax cut plan. I rate that mostly fiction.” (ABC’s “Your Voice: 2012Presidential Debates,” 10/3/12)

    The Associated Press: “Obama’s Claim That Romney Wants To Cut Taxes By $5 Trillion Doesn’t Add Up.” “Obama’s claim that Romney wants to cut taxes by $5 trillion doesn’t add up. Presumably, Obama was talking about the effect of Romney’s tax plan over 10 years, which is common in Washington. But Obama’s math doesn’t take into account Romney’s entire plan.” (Calvin Woodward, “FACT CHECK: Presidential Debate Missteps,” The Associated Press, 10/3/12)

    NUMBER 3: President Obama Claimed Mitt Romney’s Private Sector Experience Involved Outsourcing – A Claim Repeatedly Debunked By Fact Checkers:

    President Obama: “As I Already Indicated, In The Private Sector, Governor Romney's Company Invested In What Were Called Pioneers Of Outsourcing.” (President Barack Obama, Second Presidential Debate, Hempstead, NY, 10/16/12)

    FactCheck.org: “We Found No Evidence To Support The Claim That Romney — While He Was Still Running Bain Capital — Shipped American Jobs Overseas.” “But after reviewing numerous corporate filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, contemporary news accounts, company histories and press releases, and the evidence offered by both the Obama and Romney campaigns, we found no evidence to support the claim that Romney — while he was still running Bain Capital — shipped American jobs overseas.” (Robert Farley and Eugene Kiely, “Obama’s ‘Outsourcer’ Overreach,” FactCheck.org, 6/29/12)

    The Washington Post, On An Obama Outsourcing Ad: “On Just About Every Level, This Ad Is Misleading, Unfair And Untrue…” “The Obama campaign fails to make its case. On just about every level, this ad is misleading, unfair and untrue, from the use of ‘corporate raider’ to its examples of alleged outsourcing. Simply repeating the same debunked claims won’t make them any more correct.” (Glenn Kessler, “4 Pinocchios For Obama’s Newest Anti-Romney Ad,” The Washington Post, 6/21/12)

    The Washington Post: “Obama Never Mentions Another Washington Post Article, One That Detailed How He Has Not Been Able To Fulfill Many Of His Campaign Promises In 2008 To Stem The Outflow Of American Jobs…” (Glenn Kessler, “Fact Check: Pioneers Of Outsourcing,” The Washington Post, 10/16/12)

    NUMBER 4: President Obama Claimed He Cut Taxes For The Middle Class – But Didn’t Mention His Policies Are Threatening To Hike Taxes By $4,000:

    President Obama: “My Philosophy On Taxes Has Been Simple, And That Is, I Want To Give Middle-Class Families, And Folks Who Are Striving To Get In The Middle Class, Some Relief…” OBAMA: “My philosophy on taxes has been simple, and that is, I want to give middle-class families, and folks who are striving to get in the middle class, some relief, because they have been hit hard over the last decade, over the last 15, over the last 20 years.” (President Barack Obama, Second Presidential Debate, Hempstead, NY, 10/16/12)

    President Obama Has Already Raised Taxes On Nearly 5 Million Middle-Class Americans In Obamacare. (“Payments Of Penalties For Being Uninsured Under The Affordable Care Act,” Congressional Budget Office, 9/12)

    • An Analysis By The Congressional Budget Office Found That “Nearly 80 Percent Of Those Who’ll Face” Obamacare’s Mandate Tax Are In The Middle Class. “Nonetheless, in his first campaign for the White House, Obama pledged not to raise taxes on individuals making less than $200,000 a year and couples making less than $250,000. And the budget office analysis found that nearly 80 percent of those who'll face the penalty would be making up to or less than five times the federal poverty level.” (“Tax Penalty To Hit Nearly 6M Uninsured People,” The Associated Press, 9/19/12)

    American Enterprise Institute Has Calculated That The Annual Cost Of President Obama’s Current And Looming Debt Burden Amounts To $4,000 Per Year In Higher Taxes On The Middle Class. “In a new paper, AEI’s Matt Jensen looks at the real annual cost of servicing the debt for households at various levels of income — including a potentially higher tax burden. As the table below illustrates, a household making between $100,000 and $200,000 a year could find its tax liability higher by roughly $2,400 every year. Over ten years, that works out to $24,000. And when you add in the debt already accrued the past four years under President Obama (the second table), that’s another $1,600 a year. So now we are now talking about $4,000 a year, $40,000 over ten years.” (James Pethokoukis, “Study: Obama’s Big Budget Deficits Could Mean A $4,000 A Year Middle-Class Tax Hike,” American Enterprise Institute, 10/2/12)

    NUMBER 5: President Obama Falsely Claimed He Has Increased Energy Production On Public Lands:

    President Obama: “We Have Increased Oil Production To The Highest Levels In 16 Years. Natural Gas Production Is The Highest It Has Been In Decades.” OBAMA: “The most important thing we can do is to make sure we control our own energy. Here is what I have done since I was president, we have increased oil production to the highest levels in 16 years. Natural gas production is the highest it has been in decades.” (President Barack Obama, Second Presidential Debate, Hempstead, NY, 10/16/12)

    • President Obama: “We’ve Opened Up Public Lands. We're Actually Drilling More On Public Lands Than In The Previous Administration.” ROMNEY: “As a matter of fact, oil production is down 14 percent this year on federal land, and gas production is down 9 percent. Why? Because the president cut in half the number of licenses and permits for drilling on federal lands and in federal waters.” OBAMA: “Candy, there's no doubt that world demand's gone up. But our production is going up, and we're using oil more efficiently. And very little of what Governor Romney just said is true. We’ve opened up public lands. We're actually drilling more on public lands than in the previous administration.” (President Barack Obama, Second Presidential Debate, Hempstead, NY, 10/16/12)

    The Washington Post: “Contrary To President Obama’s Assertions,” Oil Production “On Public Land Is Down 14 Percent And Production Of Gas On Public Land Is Down 9 Percent.” “Is Gov. Mitt Romney telling the truth when he says oil and gas production is down on public land? Contrary to President Obama’s assertions, Romney’s telling the truth when he says, ‘Production of oil on public land is down 14 percent and production of gas on public land is down 9 percent.’ That’s because energy production on federal lands is down compared to 2010, according to the Energy Information Administration.” (Juliet Eilperin, “The Truth About Oil And Gas Production On Public Land,” The Washington Post, 10/16/12)

    ABC’s Jonathan Karl: “It Is True That Those Drilling Leases And Permits Are Down Under President Obama.” KARL: “But on this issue of oil and gas drilling, Governor Romney said that oil and gas drilling is down by 50% on public lands. That is not exactly true but it's not far off. In fact, we looked at the numbers and oil drilling permits on public land dropped by 37% in the first two years of the Obama administration, 42% in terms of leases for natural gas. So the numbers weren't exactly right, but it is true that those drilling leases and permits are down under President Obama.” (ABC’s Presidential Debate Coverage, 10/16/12)

     
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