The failed war on weed

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    Hey Skeeter...you do know that a significan number of drug addicts also abuse prescription narcotics...right? By your logic..should we  then criminalize oxycodone, codeine, morphine, percocet...etc?

    How come you don't use the same argument about guns (you know..the one where because some people might abuse it..it should be illegal?)

    " Above all..be the heroine in your life..not the victim" Nora Ephron

     



    Please. Weed? It tends to be the least addictive of all that is an addictive substance. Skeeter is fine with far more addictive and destructive things provided they are legal. Tobbacco and alcohol? That's fine. They are legal and taxed.

     



    Really?  Don't think I said that, but keep trying to put words in my mouth.

    Besdies, what's the whole kurfuffle about anyways?  Medical dope is legal in this state.

     
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    Sure guns are a deterrent. Own big, large capacity guns.  Then when the. Doper shows up to steal you tv to pay for more dope, you have the advantage.

    you are right that dopers and crackheads are different. Dopers giggle and drool as they slide off the couch onto the floor.  Crackheads s are generally just drooling.

     

     



    More proof you're totally out of your gourd.

     

     

    Clearly, you have no practical experience with any of this.  Keep your misinformed, hypothetical theories.

    Freud had lots to say about men and their "large capacity guns", indeed.

     

     



    Skeeter thinks Reefer Madness is a factual documentary.

     

     



    If you spent your college years getting high and watching Reefer Madness, your loss.

     
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    I was trying to demonstrate to him ..essentially..that the sky is not going to fall if marijuana becomes available by prescription.

     

     

     



    Pot is easier to get than alcohol until one turns 21....and skeeter concludes that legalization/regulation/taxation will suddenly put pot in kids hands.

     

     

     

     

    Lets um.... think about that for a second.

     




    Skeeter is blissfully happy in the world of tin foil hats. Even though you and I understand this..somehow..I think it will still remain beyond Skeeter's grasp.

     

     

     

     

    Yes, let's think about that.  The statement you are responding to from a previous poster is BS, completely unsupportable.


    I don't conclude that legalizing pot as it has been done in Colorado and California puts pot into children's hands, that's what the data shows.  You can ignore the facts if you like, but it doesn't make your strawman any more true.

    You have so lost your way on this that facts do not matter.  Putting pot dispensiaries on every street corner and allowing anyone who one day had walked through the lobby of a medical school to write a prescription for any reason does not serve those in need of dope for pain management.  What is does is broaden the distribution and use of dope in the general population, many of whom are under age.

     

     



    You realise there are alcohol dispensiaries (your "word", not mine) located on nearly every street corner allowing anyone over the age of 21 to legally purchase booze, right? You can also buy booze in many movie theatres as well. You'd be hard pressed to find a decent restaurant that does not serve alcohol. By your logic, what this does is broaden the distribution and use of booze in the general population, many of whom are under age.

     



    Did I say I was in favor of alcohol being dispensed as you describe?

    Weak argument, trying to get me onto the social ills of booze, then use it as an argument for legalizing dope.  Sigh.  The idiocy of youth. Take a problem, tell me it is bigger than the problem you want to foist on the rest of us, so it's all good.  Go back to school and learn to think.  Better yet, don't.  Get into the real world.  that will teach you more than school at this point.

    Just tell me the truth:  Did you come up with this idea after a wicked big hit off a bong?

     
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    What is the legal Blood THC Content (BTC) to drive?

     
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    What is the legal Blood THC Content (BTC) to drive?

     



    Really?  How do they test?  What does that equal in doobers?
    I believe CO is considering 5 nanograms.

     

     




     
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    Bread and Circus.  That's all this is to the Democrats, Bread and Circus.  Get the folks all doped up, keep 'em quiet.

     
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    Well right now I think - think - that the only way they can test is to first say you failed an ordinary roadside sobriety test and then get a warrant for a blood draw at a hospital.

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    I used to regularly refuse sobriety tests.  That would seem to F that up, no?

     
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    Well right now I think - think - that the only way they can test is to first say you failed an ordinary roadside sobriety test and then get a warrant for a blood draw at a hospital.

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    I used to regularly refuse sobriety tests.  That would seem to F that up, no?

     




    No.

     


    The evidence that you refused a sobriety test is inadmissible, but that's because Mass. (unlike the feds) say this kind of evidence violates the self-incrimination clause. Reasoning is simple enough.

    Cop asks you to take a sobriety test, and either option for an intoxicated person forces you to incrimate yourself.

    Agree, and prove yourself drunk.

    Refuse, and provide consciousness of guilt evidence suggesting you are drunk.

     

     

     

    But, there is no self-incrimination problem with a blood draw if they get a warrant. This is because the gov't isn't asking you a question that you cannot answer without incriminating yourself. It's a search for physical evidence, supported by probable cause.

    And, while refusal of sobriety tests are inadmissible at trial....       that does not mean the refusal cannot be considered by a judge whom the cop has asked for a warrant (and of course he can tell the judge that your eyes were bloodshot, you smelled like pot, whatever).




    We agree.  All ya gotta do now is find a judge at 2 AM, get and execute the warrant.

    There are problems with legalization, s'all I'm saying.  Hey, I'm a drunk.  I can't drink without the sole purpose of effect.  I hear tell Earthlings can.  But does anybody really accept that you can smoke weed with no intent of impairment.  It is rather the whole point dontcha think?

     
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    I believe in decriminalizing marijuana, but  cant buy into the idea that the prisons are full of young innocent first time users of pot. It is a myth.

    http://www.pomeradonews.com/2013/01/16/will-wooton-legalizing-pot-won%E2%80%99t-unburden-legal-system/

     ....the total number of state inmates doing time for any drug offense with a prior conviction is 83 percent. Basically, the large majority committed crimes in the past and nearly two-thirds of them (62 percent) had multiple prior convictions.
    First time drug offenders equals 3.6 percent of all state inmates.

    • Offenses involving marijuana equals 2.7 percent of all state inmates.

    • Prisoners held for marijuana only equals 1.6 percent of all state inmates.

    • Prisoners held for marijuana possession only equals 0.7 percent of all state inmates.

    First time offenders held only for marijuana possession equals 0.3 percent of all state inmates.

    "These clearly are not the numbers that the legalization movement is talking about when they say that there are 86.5 marijuana arrests every hour in this country. Yes, that may be a number that is real, but it is misleading. If someone steals a car and is arrested for that car theft and marijuana, I don’t believe it is fair to list that person as a casualty of the federal marijuana laws. You can’t solely point out just the drug arrest and omit that they have priors and may be on parole for other crimes. You can be sentenced just for marijuana but, as the numbers point out, only 0.3 percent of inmates are incarcerated for only that with no prior record. Many of 3.6 percent are individuals that were arrested for selling or trafficking very large amounts, not for their personal use.

    I don’t believe that making marijuana legal will somehow free millions of marijuana smokers and unburden our legal system."

     

     

     
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    What is the legal Blood THC Content (BTC) to drive?

     




    I believe CO is considering 5 nanograms.

     

     



    Emphasis on the word considering.Dope is legal, there is no leal limit to drive.  Nice.

    what is it with you progressives?

     
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    What is the legal Blood THC Content (BTC) to drive?

     

     




    I believe CO is considering 5 nanograms.

     

     

     

     



    Emphasis on the word considering.Dope is legal, there is no leal limit to drive.  Nice.

     

    what is it with you progressives?



    Could you please stop reefering (cute pun) to weed as dope? Aside from being confusing, it makes you look ignorant as to the subject at hand.

     
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    Emphasis on the word considering.Dope is legal, there is no leal limit to drive.  Nice.

     

    what is it with you progressives?

     




    Think carefully. I won't be too harsh if you can admit your mistake.

     

     

    Right now: There is no legal limit to drive. Correct.

    That means if they pull you over, get a warrant for your blood, and you have ANY amount in you, you're busted.

    And the limit they are considering? Well it's so low it would nab anyone who smoked just about any amount before driving. Blood levels easily exceed 100ng/ml for a standard dose, according to the research I posted.

     

     

     

    What is it with you prohibitionists?

     

     

     



    Nice dodge.  Doubt it would stand up in court, as not setting a limit does not equate to a zero limit.

     

     
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    I believe CO is considering 5 nanograms.

     

     

     

     

     

     



    Emphasis on the word considering.Dope is legal, there is no leal limit to drive.  Nice.

     

     

    what is it with you progressives?

     



    Could you please stop reefering (cute pun) to weed as dope? Aside from being confusing, it makes you look ignorant as to the subject at hand.

     



    A stoner telling me I look ignorant on the subject of "dope"?

    that's rich.

    I use dope becasue I am sick of typing out marijuana.  Besides "dope" is more descriptive of the effect, in my expereince.

     
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    [waaaaaahhhhhhh. Why won't anyone respond to me seriously? Why do they always laugh at me and ignore my threads? Waaaaaahhhh].

     



     

     

     

     

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    Bread and Circus.  That's all this is to the Democrats, Bread and Circus.  Get the folks all doped up, keep 'em quiet.


     

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    in my worldview, homosexuality is as wrong as cancer

     

     

    Ohhh....   



    As you lose the argument again, that old chestnut comes out again?

    Why don't you argue like a man?  Too stoned?

     
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    I believe CO is considering 5 nanograms.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     



    Emphasis on the word considering.Dope is legal, there is no leal limit to drive.  Nice.

     

     

     

    what is it with you progressives?

     

     



    Could you please stop reefering (cute pun) to weed as dope? Aside from being confusing, it makes you look ignorant as to the subject at hand.

     

     

     



     

    Nicknames and Street Names for Marijuana

    * Weed
    * Pot
    * Reefer
    * Grass
    * Dope
    * Ganja
    * Mary Jane
    * Hash
    * Herb
    * Aunt Mary
    * Skunk
    * Boom
    * Chronic
    * Cheeba
    * Blunt
    * Ashes
    * Atshitshi
    * Baby Bhang
    * Bammy
    * Blanket
    * Bo-Bo
    * Bobo Bush
    * Bomber
    * Boom
    * Broccoli
    * Cripple
    * Dagga
    * Dinkie Dow
    * Ding
    * Dona Juana (or Juanita)
    * Flower, Flower Tops
    * Ganja
    * Gasper
    * Giggle Smoke
    * Good Giggles
    * Good Butt
    * Hot Stick
    * Jay
    * Jolly Green
    * Joy Smoke, Joy Stick
    * Roach




    I think for progressives, the proper term is "Choom"  as in " Choom Gang".  Hey, do you know who was a stoner in that gang?

     
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    Too stoned?



    I'd probably come out double your IQ even if I was. Have another beer.

     

     



    You are wicked smaht.  I could just kiss you.

    But, for such a smaht guy, you say some pretty stupid things.  You must be living in an isolation chamber somewhere, arguing whith yourself.

     

     
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                  http://www.alternet.org/drugs/us-attorney-said-montana-medical-pot-growers-wouldnt-be-prosecuted-now-theyre-facing-life?akid=10609.1077246.pEkw1e&rd=1&src=newsletter858873&t=4

     

    The new US Attorney for Montana is cracking down on growers of medical  mariguana.

    In a complete turnabout from not prosecuting medical pot growers, raids have been taking place without warning. Growers are being arrested and could face life in prison.                                               

     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-J7mLyD3yc

     
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                                           LEGALIZE ALL DRUGS.

     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCSjKXEy65g

     
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    Sister,

     

    Me and Bobby McGee & NoNo Song. Very Nice.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pafY6s 

    Sometimes the lights all shinin on me

    other times I can barely see   

    lately it has occured to me what a long strange trip it's been                                                     

     
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