The latest Obama spin on Libya .. after he had 6 weeks to work up this BS

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    In 2008, Fox News tricked the main stream media into believing that a sermon given by a candidate's pastor had any bearing on the election.  It was an embarrassing moment for American journalism.  That candidate went on to win the white house, and the cries of Jeremiah Wright and William Ayers turned to cries for the president's birth certificate and college transcripts.  

    Now Fox News is somehow trying to convince us that the president of the United States conspired with terrorists to kill an ambassador.  Nobody is jumping onto you're wagon of horse sh1t.  If you're going to win this election, it's going to have to be on the strength of the dozens of other lies you have perpetuated over the last four years.

     
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    Fox News tricked the main stream media???? Are you sure you want to open with that?

    Like any news that goes against the President, the MSM looks the other way. Fox is the only network  talking about these real concerns. The rest of the MSM should be embarrssed to call themselves journalists.

     
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    Again, the insistence of a conspiracy or at a mimimum incompetence collides head on with facts.  FoxNews has been carrying the water for the Romney campaign in politicizing and mainstreaming various rumors regarding the happenings during the benghazi attack, implying and in some cases stating a belief that the CIA issued orders to stand down, and didn't assist the diplomats under attack.  The CIA timeline refutes those rumors and claims and sets the record straight.

    In particular, the CIA notes that it had information that eyewitnessed claimed islamic militants were behind the attck, and the CIA notes that while it had that information it had VERIFIED those claims.  The CIA also noted information that had been made public weeks ago, that TWO SEPARATE reaction forces converged on the American mission, one less than a half hour after calls for assistance were made, and the other later after flying into Benghazi from Tripoli. 

    So no, this isn't spin.  The public requested clarity and the CIA has provided it.  Now of course the righties will claim that the information has been compromised because it fails to validate the conspiracy claims and cast a negative light on the administration.  But this is par for the course for the 2012 GOP.  Don't like jobs numbers?  Claim they were manipulated.  Don't like the CIA timeline of events in Libya?  Claim the information has been compromised by political influence. 

    In other words just keep repeating the same lies over and over again, regardless of factual accuracy (note: the Romney campaign is not saying the same things as the right wing media, who are pushing the story as they beleive it benefits Romney to do so oftentimes ignoring reality to push a partisan smear campaign).  At least the Romney campaign or his SuperPacs don't have to cough up any money to fund FoxNews' 24/7 attack machine. 

     
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    Their slogan should be:  Its not news, its Fox news.

     
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    In response to DamainAllen's comment:
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    Again, the insistence of a conspiracy or at a mimimum incompetence collides head on with facts.  FoxNews has been carrying the water for the Romney campaign in politicizing and mainstreaming various rumors regarding the happenings during the benghazi attack, implying and in some cases stating a belief that the CIA issued orders to stand down, and didn't assist the diplomats under attack.  The CIA timeline refutes those rumors and claims and sets the record straight.

    In particular, the CIA notes that it had information that eyewitnessed claimed islamic militants were behind the attck, and the CIA notes that while it had that information it had VERIFIED those claims.  The CIA also noted information that had been made public weeks ago, that TWO SEPARATE reaction forces converged on the American mission, one less than a half hour after calls for assistance were made, and the other later after flying into Benghazi from Tripoli. 

    So no, this isn't spin.  The public requested clarity and the CIA has provided it.  Now of course the righties will claim that the information has been compromised because it fails to validate the conspiracy claims and cast a negative light on the administration.  But this is par for the course for the 2012 GOP.  Don't like jobs numbers?  Claim they were manipulated.  Don't like the CIA timeline of events in Libya?  Claim the information has been compromised by political influence. 

    In other words just keep repeating the same lies over and over again, regardless of factual accuracy (note: the Romney campaign is not saying the same things as the right wing media, who are pushing the story as they beleive it benefits Romney to do so oftentimes ignoring reality to push a partisan smear campaign).  At least the Romney campaign or his SuperPacs don't have to cough up any money to fund FoxNews' 24/7 attack machine. 

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    Well said.  Romney was caught in the coverage bubble during the second debate - maybe the worst moment of any for him, and he hasn't touched Benghazi since.

    There's no coverup here.  No story.  No rational person would still be trying to flame this fire seven weeks later.

    However, on Saturday of that week, briefing points sent by the CIA to Congress said "demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the US embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault".

    The briefing points, obtained by the AP, added that "there are indications that extremists participated in the violent demonstrations" but did not mention eyewitness accounts that blamed militants alone.

     
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    In response to NO MO O's comment:
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    Just 3 questions please...

    Is this administration through with the anti Muslim video lie is spread for 3 weeks while one news agency was getting to the truth? ?

    Will Obama EVER tell us the truth?

    Will Obama EVER call this a terrorist attack?

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    All of these things have happened.  Your fingers were in your ears, your eyes were closed, and your head was in the sand so I can understand why you remain ignorant of the facts.

     
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    Did Obama ignore a memo entitled "Al qaeda determined to attack embassy in Libya"?

    What is amazing about the FoxNews crowd is how shamelessly they go about championing their blatantly politically motivated double standards.

    If Obama has displayed the type of negligene and incompetance the Bush admin displayed leading up to 9-11 the FoxNews crowd would have called for impeachment.  But siince it was their guy dropping the ball, not a peep, just reminders that it was unamerican and unpatriotic to question the Commander in Chief in the face of terrorism. 

     

     
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    Fox News tricked the main stream media???? Are you sure you want to open with that?

    Like any news that goes against the President, the MSM looks the other way. Fox is the only network  talking about these real concerns. The rest of the MSM should be embarrssed to call themselves journalists.

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    The facts as layed out by the CIA in multiple sources completely discredit Fox News' recent tabloidesque reporting on the matter.  So, either Fox News knows more than the CIA, or they got it wrong.

    When will they issue a correction on their faulty "journalism"??  If past is precedent, never.

    These are new details coming from the LA Times, NY Times and Wall St. Journal, among others.  MSM "not talking about this"?  Really??  Per LAT:

    “At every level in the chain of command, from the senior officers in Libya to the most senior officials in Washington, everyone was fully engaged in trying to provide whatever help they could,” a senior intelligence official said in a statement. “There were no orders to anybody to stand down in providing support.”

     

     
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    Provide help? There was NO help. There was no rescue. There was plenty of time for a rescue 7+ hours.

    The obvious LIE is that Obama said he ordered immediate help.

    The facts say otherwise.

    Go to CNN.. see if you can find any story related to this on the front page.

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    That they weren't rescued in time doesn't mean that help wasn't called. 

    WaPo:  The CIA rushed security operatives to an American diplomatic compound in Libya within 25 minutes of its coming under attack and played a more central role in the effort to fend off a night-long siege than has been acknowledged publicly, U.S. intelligence officials said Thursday.

     

    NYT:

    [A] senior official also sought to rebut reports that C.I.A. requests for support from the Pentagon that night had gone unheeded.

    In fact, the official said, the military diverted a Predator drone from a reconnaissance mission in Darnah, 90 miles away, in time to oversee the mission’s evacuation. The two commandos, based at the embassy in Tripoli, joined the reinforcements. And a military transport plane flew the wounded Americans and Mr. Stevens’s body out of Libya.

    CNN is the ONLY MSM outlet?  NYT?  WSJ?   Keep movin' them goalposts...

     

     
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    AHHH, the politcally self serving concerns of the FoxNews crowd.

    It really begs the question "where were you when presidential lies were leading to American death in 2004?"  or "Where were you in 2001 when an Administration ignored warnings and it lead to a terrorist attack"?

    The FoxNews manufactured outrage is completely disingenious and painfully transparent.

    It is just like the phony concern the GOP suddenly had about the national debt the day Obama took office. 

     
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    In response to GreginMeffa's comment:
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    It was caused by video trailer.

     

    Bwa hahahhahahahhaha ha ha ha!

     

    and if you believed that ...

     

    And you DID!

     

    Here's a shie

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    Obama called it an act of terror the day after it happened.  But you willfully choose to ignore that.  There were many incidents in the region sparked by the movie, but you willfully choose to ignore that. You fault the president for wanting to get the full story. That's just politics, not good policy.

     
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    Obama called it an act of terror the day after it happened.  But you willfully choose to ignore that.  There were many incidents in the region sparked by the movie, but you willfully choose to ignore that. You fault the president for wanting to get the full story. That's just politics, not good policy.

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    Yes, a fact commonly ignored by the FoxNews Crowd is that there were dozens of demonstrations, from Pakistan to Indonesia to Tunisia etc..., that WERE in response to the video. 

    But it remains somehow unbelievable that initially U.S. intelligence also thought what happened in Benghazi was a similar demonstration? 

    This whole thing is nothing more than a cynical and obvious manuever to try and create smoke to give the illusion of fire. 

     
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    Does he have the full story now to share with us... AFTER 6 WEEKS ??!!

    Or would that inconvenience him away from his election goals?

    He had no problem playing the photo ops in NJ.. but prefers to get SHY when it involves terrorists who he is feeding our money to.

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    Full story?  There is NO story that would make you happy unless it involved Obama's admission that he was actually part of the conspiracy to attack Benghazi so he could set up a Muslim terrorist state.  You hatred can never be fully satisfied.

     
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    Much like the requests for the long form birth certificate, I don't think the calls from the right for the FULL STORY are anything more than attempt to keep the story hot and fresh as they feel there is still more political mileage to be gained. If you want access to the congressional or state department investigations then obviously that will take time, and OBVIOUSLY Obama is not working on those reports. But it doesn't really matter. The CIA released a report today including time line and conservat6ives are still spewing the same garbage even though the latest information refutes, debunks, and clearly shows that the story the right WANTS to beleive is not true. So lets not pretend the facts will be satisfactory. The right will just claim there is a cover up of the cover up, which itself was covered up.

     

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