There Are Now More Americans In Jail Than There Were In Stalin's Gulag Archipelago Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/how-many-americans-in-jail-2012-3#ixzz2VBJDcLjH

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    I definitely do not agree with prison time for possession of small amounts of any drug.

    I do agree with prison time if convicted of trafficing or distribution of narcotics.

    Comparing our prisons to gulags is like comparing the Motel 6 in Phoenix Arizona to the Bellagio Resort in Las Vegas!

     

     
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    In response to Godvernment's comment:

    does the motel 6 in phoenix arizona get more or as many guests as the bellagio resort in las vegas? it was a comparison of numbers, nothing more.




    Yes and you cannot honestly compare gulags to any prison system without considering the abuse and conditions at gulags!

     
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    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:
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    None of it makes sense. Punishing dealers doesn't make sense. Paramilitary operations and spraying crops in Latin America doesn't make sense.

     

    None of it makes sense. Why? If you keep doing the same thing you've been doing for 100 years, and it still doesn't work, you might just be ______________.

     

    If you think drugs are evil, you should still agree that the War on Drugs should be stopped. It doesn't work. Argue for doing something else, if you want to fight drug use. But what we're doing simply doesn't work - whether you're talking about killing Escobar or jailing someone for having 1/4 gram crack.

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    Well if, your paradigm was to eradicate drug use etc from the USA then it failed.

    I actually think it slowed supply to drive prices to a point where it wasnt as readily available or attractive.

    I also think harsh prison sentences may have caused some, but not all obviously to change their life.

    Was it a complete success NO

    Was it a complete waste NO

     

     
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    In response to tvoter's comment:

     

    Well if, your paradigm was to eradicate drug use etc from the USA then it failed.

    I actually think it slowed supply to drive prices to a point where it wasnt as readily available or attractive.

    I also think harsh prison sentences may have caused some, but not all obviously to change their life.

    Was it a complete success NO

    Was it a complete waste NO

     



    No...it did nothing of the sort.  The same drugs are just as cheap and just as available. 

    Whether harsh sentences deter crime of any kind is an open question that remains unanswered.  The only discernable benefit has been to pharma and private prison firms.

     

     
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    dupe

     
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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    Whether harsh sentences deter crime of any kind is an open question that remains unanswered.  The only discernable benefit has been to pharma and private prison firms.




    Whether "rehabilitation" prevents crime is a closed question that is answered. The answer is NO.

    The only discernable benefit is to hire  thousands of useless public sector counselors and social workers at taxpayer expense. Commit a crime, get your counselor telling you it isnt your fault, you poor thing, it is society's fault.

    Harsh sentences deter crime by definition. The dirtballs are in jail,  so they can't commit violent crimes against the public.

     
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    In response to Godvernment's comment:

    There are now more Americans in jail -- 6 million -- than there were in Stalin's Gulag, reports Fareed Zakaria, in a column called "Incarceration Nation."

     

    And it's not just a relative population thing.

    The U.S. has 760 prisoners per 100,000 citizens.

    How does that compare to other countries?

    It's 7X-10X as high:

    • Japan has 63 per 100,000,
    • Germany has 90 per 100,000
    • France has 96 per 100,000
    • South Korea has 97 per 100,000
    • ­Britain has 153 per 100,000

    And it's also a relatively new phenomenon: In 1980, the U.S. only had 150 prisoners per 100,000 citizens.

    What's to blame?

    The "War on Drugs."

    More than half of America's 6 million prisoners are in jail for drug convictions, with 80% of those in jail for "possession."

    By the way, has the "war on drugs" worked?

    Um, no.

    There are still drugs everywhere.

    So, maybe it's time we stopped throwing people in the slammer for possessing them.

    Read Fareed Zakaria's column here >



    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/how-many-americans-in-jail-2012-3#ixzz2VBJDcLjH




    Let see there are 760 prisoners per 100,000

    7600 per  1 million

    760,000 per 100 million

    There are 6 millions americans in jail ???

    US population is around 800 million ... who knew?

     

    some one is stretching the truth

     
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