THEY DID IT; THE GOP PASSED LEGISLATION IMPOSING A ONE-YEAR DELAY ON OBAMACARE

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    THEY DID IT; THE GOP PASSED LEGISLATION IMPOSING A ONE-YEAR DELAY ON OBAMACARE

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Locked in a deepening struggle with President Barack Obama, the Republican-controlled House pushed legislation toward passage Saturday night imposing a one-year delay on parts of the nation’s new health care law and repealing a tax on medical devices as the price for avoiding a partial government shutdown in a few days’ time.

    Senate Democrats pledged to reject the measure even before the House began debating it, and the White House issued a statement vowing a veto in any event. Republicans are pursuing ‘‘a narrow ideological agenda ... and pushing the government towards shutdown,’’ it said.

     

    Way to go GOP...esp. the Tea Partiers who have co-opted the formerly fiscally conservative party. 

    You are willing to wreck our economy because you did not get your way. That is what elections are for...and Obama won the last two with Obamacare as his signature piece of legislation.

    For those of you who are entirely selfish and did not care about the big picture...Obamacare is only going to affect those who buy their own health insurance. That is about 10-15% of those with health insurance. The rest of us will see no changes...except of course those who do not have health insurance and now will be able to but it.

     

     
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    The best guides to what might happen are the government shutdowns of 1995-1996, said Chad Stone, chief economist of the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

    The 1995-1996 government shutdowns, a five-day hiatus in November 1995, followed by a 28-day gap in December and January 1996, did interrupt the strong expansion that was then developing.

    The economy grew at an annual pace of 3.5% in the third quarter of 1995, but dropped to 2.9% in late 1995 and 2.6% in the first quarter of 1996. Once the shutdown ended, growth rebounded to 7.2% in the second quarter of 1996, and the economy grew at a 4% clip in the second half of the year.

    During the crisis, interest rates on 10-year Treasury bonds dropped, and the Standard & Poor's 500-stock index rose 5.5%. Unemployment stayed stable, 5.5% or 5.6% from September through January.

    The impact of a failure to raise the debt ceiling could be much greater, because of the way it would rock credit markets, said Doug Holtz-Eakin, a former head of the Congressional Budget Office.

    It would also force much more sudden spending cuts than a partial shutdown if the Treasury is forced to go from a $600 billion annual deficit to balancing income and payments immediately, Stone said.

    "It's sequestration on steroids, a balanced budget amendment enforced on an hourly basis,'' he said.

                                                                

                                                                

     
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    Meanwhile, President Obama went golfing for four hours at Fort Belvoir today.

     

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    Meanwhile, President Obama went golfing for four hours at Fort Belvoir today.

     

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    SB,

    Due respect, what is your point?

    Obama was no part of this today. He had made it abundantly clear if the GOP went ahead in its attempt hold the government hostage with this bill...and it somehow got past the Senate...he would veto it. End of story.

    Well the GOP went ahead to try to extort the government. And true to his word, Obama is not going to negotiate with extortionists.

    The GOP is now the party who could not get what they wanted thru the election process and then tried to extort the government to get it with no regard for the effect on the economy.

    I believe the days of the GOP being known as the fiscally conservative party have come to an end.

     
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    Isn't there any Federal laws to stop bullying ?

     
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    Why is President Obama shutting down the government?

    Andie,

    The point is that this President has no interest in negotiating a deal with the Republicans in the House and never has.

    So the question becomes, why is President Obama shutting down the government?

     

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    Andie,

    The point is that this President has no interest in negotiating a deal with the Republicans in the House and never has.

    So the question becomes, why is President Obama shutting down the government?

     

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    There won't be any negotiation with terrorist ........ but just to make you happy there was 2 negotiation sessions concerning the ACA , one was in the SCOTUS and the other was the Presidential Elections of 2012 ....

     
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    Isn't there any Federal laws to stop bullying ?



    No, sorry.  OBama decided he wasn't going to enforce that one.

     
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    In response to Sistersledge's comment:

    In response to StalkingButler's comment:

     

    Andie,

    The point is that this President has no interest in negotiating a deal with the Republicans in the House and never has.

    So the question becomes, why is President Obama shutting down the government?

     

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    There won't be any negotiation with terrorist ........ but just to make you happy there was 2 negotiation sessions concerning the ACA , one was in the SCOTUS and the other was the Presidential Elections of 2012 ....

     



    I see sister has been read-in on the talking points.

     

     
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    WASHINGTON (AP) — Locked in a deepening struggle with President Barack Obama, the Republican-controlled House pushed legislation toward passage Saturday night imposing a one-year delay on parts of the nation’s new health care law and repealing a tax on medical devices as the price for avoiding a partial government shutdown in a few days’ time.

    Senate Democrats pledged to reject the measure even before the House began debating it, and the White House issued a statement vowing a veto in any event. Republicans are pursuing ‘‘a narrow ideological agenda ... and pushing the government towards shutdown,’’ it said.

     

    Way to go GOP...esp. the Tea Partiers who have co-opted the formerly fiscally conservative party. 

    You are willing to wreck our economy because you did not get your way. That is what elections are for...and Obama won the last two with Obamacare as his signature piece of legislation.

    For those of you who are entirely selfish and did not care about the big picture...Obamacare is only going to affect those who buy their own health insurance. That is about 10-15% of those with health insurance. The rest of us will see no changes...except of course those who do not have health insurance and now will be able to but it.

     

     



    So, drop the hyper partisanship for a moment, and ride the curl with me on this:

     

    who does the one year delay really benefit?

    if you say Republicans, you would have to believe that't he republicans can turn their PR machine around and make a dent in the over-the-top endorsement by the mainstream media.

    if you say democrats, then, you are spot on.  The one year delay will insulate most people from the destruction being wrought by Obamacare.  Bohne-head knows this, and is carefully walking a thin line here that will result in two things: democrat victory in the midterms, and letting the cement set in around Obamacare.  

    In summary, this is a win for the supporters of Obamacare being presented as a consession.  Expect some lip biting, followed by Obama reluctantly "giving in" to the "TEA party" demands.

    all the establishment candidates win.

    last point: the idea that this only impacts those with out insurance is an outright lie, and you know it. What about the 21 taxes? What about the executive ordered mandates? What about your much touted preexisting condition coverage? How about the mandated coverage of children to 26? What about the national database? What about the IAPD boards?

    the list goes on For this Trojan horse into our lives from our own government.

     
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    Re: THEY DID IT; THE GOP PASSED LEGISLATION IMPOSING A ONE-YEAR DELAY ON OBAMACARE

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    Andie,

    The point is that this President has no interest in negotiating a deal with the Republicans in the House and never has.

    So the question becomes, why is President Obama shutting down the government?

     

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    Compromise was already done, ,multiple times. Terrorist, extremist politics is not American Democracy. If the Republican party came in to your home armed and demanded you do things they wanted before they would leave that would not be negotiation. It would be extortion at best and terrorism at worst. 

    No, we do not need nor want the mafia to run government. Just say NO to the Tea Party, the Republican party and fundamental extremists from all countries including this one.

     

     
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    There won't be any negotiation with terrorist

    President Obama is willing to talk to the Iranians (although they're not so happy to talk to him) but he refuses to talk to the loyal opposition?

    What kind of excrement is that?

     

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    "It's sequestration on steroids, a balanced budget amendment enforced on an hourly basis..."

    Yes, remember the Obama Administration and the liberal media brazenly lying about the end of civilization as we know it: "sequestration". Even though Obama Administration signed off on it, the Obama Administration deliberately gummed up the Government to punish citizens... didnt work.

    Now Obama brags about how the deficit is being lowered...never thanking Republicans for forcing him for once to act sanely with spending. Thanks, Sequestration.

    Similarly, dont believe the hype about a Government shutdown.

    There have been 17 government funding gaps and shutdowns since 1976, ranging in length from one to 21 days. A funding gap is when federal agencies continue to operate without the passage of a regular appropriations bill. None has caused a market meltdown.

    The average decline in the Standard & Poor's 500 index during one of these periods lasting 10 days or more is about 2.5 percent. For those lasting five days or fewer, the average decline is 1.4 percent.

    "If they shut the government down for two days, the world's not going to stop revolving," says Ron Florance, deputy chief investment officer for Wells Fargo Private Bank.

     Except the Democrats, the Party of Government, will be screeching and bawling...they cant abide their Deity not being given its daily human sacrifice...

     
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    Re: THEY DID IT; THE GOP PASSED LEGISLATION IMPOSING A ONE-YEAR DELAY ON OBAMACARE

    The moonbat talking point of the day is that "ObamaCare is the law!".

    How dare the House vote to delay Obamacare! It is the law! Passed by the Congress! 

    Ironic then, how the President entirely on his own, illegally according to Constitutional scholars, decided to impose a one year delay for Obamacare on big business...

    ...and of course his bureaucrats give ObamaCare waivers to his campaign contributor and favored Democrat interest groups like unions. And the Congress itself is exempted !!

     

     

     
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    Re: THEY DID IT; THE GOP PASSED LEGISLATION IMPOSING A ONE-YEAR DELAY ON OBAMACARE

    In response to StalkingButler's comment:

    Andie,

    The point is that this President has no interest in negotiating a deal with the Republicans in the House and never has.

    So the question becomes, why is President Obama shutting down the government?

     

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      B I N G O   !!!!!  He usually just votes presant !!!!


     
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    The moonbat talking point of the day is that "ObamaCare is the law!".

    Once upon a time slavery was the law too. Oh, and it was supported by the same party that Obamacare is.

     

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    The moonbat talking point of the day is that "ObamaCare is the law!".

     

    Once upon a time slavery was the law too. Oh, and it was supported by the same party that Obamacare is.

     

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    I was under the impression that there was a lot of Republican proposals that was in the ACA

     
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    "I was under the impression that there was a lot of Republican proposals that was in the ACA"

    You are wrong.

    No Republican--not one--voted for the ACA.

    Let that sink in.

    Every major entitlement bill in the past hundred years was the result of compromise and bipartisanship.

    But here, the radical leftists Pelosi and Reid used every legislative trick imaginable to cram it though...a disgraceful partisan display.

     

    As To ObamaCare, not even the RINO Republicans could stomach it. No compromise allowed--the Obama way.

     
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    Sister, during the run up to the passage of the ACA Republicans in the House asked the President to accept their input to which the President famously replied "I won." Meaning, of course, that he had won his election, had a majority in the House and Senate, and didn't need or want their input.

    The ACA went on to be passed without any Republican votes albeit with a great deal of Democrat arm twisting and bribery.

    Is it any wonder that the House Republicans, having been snubbed during the inception of the law, have absolutely no stake in getting it implemented?

    This isn't about R vs D anymore, this is basic human nature. President Obama failed to build a bi-partisan coalition to support his signature legislation and now he's paying the price. You can call the Republicans terrorists (really?) all you want but the failure lies in the leadership of the President himself. You need not look any further than that.

     

     

     

     

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