Re: THEY DID IT; THE GOP PASSED LEGISLATION IMPOSING A ONE-YEAR DELAY ON OBAMACARE
posted at 9/29/2013 7:30 PM EDT
In response to StalkingButler's comment:
[QUOTE]Actually, to be fair, Sister posted he was under the impression that their were a lot of GOP PROPOSALS in Obamacare/ He did not post that any Republicans VOTED for Obamacare. As for GOP input, we all know that Obamacare started in the American Heritage Foundation...a Republican think tank.
There may have been ideas included in the bill that originated with "Republicans" but there was absolutely nothing from the Republican minority in the House at the time. That's like saying that the Bush tax cuts were modeled after those of President Kennedy who also cut taxes in order to stimulate the economy. That's would hardly carry any weight with todays Democrats.
[QUOTE]When Obama first came to office he often reached across the aisle. But, you have to have the other side reach back to achieve bipartisanship. That never happened.[/QUOTE]
I'm not aware of it ever happening. See my little anecdote above.
[QUOTE]One of the key provisions many who elected Obama wanted was a single-payer option. Obama did not even put up a good fight on that provision. That was major compromise. Many called it caving to the Republicans...and still do.[/QUOTE]
It was a concession to blue dog Democrats who were quite recalcitrant in their support for the bill. Indeed, most of the trouble that they actually had in passing the bill was in getting these people on board. Remember the "Louisiana purchase" where Mary Landrieu got 4.3 billion in federal medicare funds for her state in exchange for her vote?
[QUOTE]If Obamacare is so bad, the GOP should let it go forward and let it cave in on itself without holding the government hostage.[/QUOTE]
If you truly believed that Obamacare was a bad and damaging law is that what your strategy would be?
[QUOTE]What we do know is a partial or full shutdown of the government is going to cost a lot of money. Those numbers have been posted by myself and others in numerous places.[/QUOTE]
The bill passed by the House will fund the Federal government, just not Obamacare. So, again, why doesn't Obama want to avert a shutdown and fund the government?
Think for yourself, question authority.
ACC did a great job of detailing how the ACA is truly bi-partisan in its provisions in an earlier post on this thread.
"Of the 788 amendments filed, 67 came from Democrats and 721 from Republicans. Only 197 amendments were passed in the end—36 from Democrats and 161 from Republicans. And of those 161 GOP amendments,Senate Republicans classify 29 as substantive and 132 as technical.
For example, one amendment offered by Oklahoma's Tom Coburn requires members of Congress and their staff to enroll in the government-run health insurance program. Another, sponsored by Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, would "establish an auto advisory council to make recommendations to the Secretary of the Treasury regarding how best to represent the taxpayers of the United States as the majority owner of General Motors." An amendment written by North Carolina's Richard Burr requires that "a private plan would be exempt from any federal or state requirement related to quality improvement and reporting if the community health insurance option is not subject to the specific requirement."
The list goes on. An amendment from Mike Enzi of Wyoming promises "to protect pro-patient plans and prevent rationing." Another of his would "prohibit the government run plan from limiting access to end of life care." An amendment from New Hampshire's Judd Gregg "requires all savings associated with follow-on biologics to go towards deficit reduction.
"There's no accounting yet for the other 80 or so Republican amendments that were included in the legislation. But in this sampling, at least, it appears that a good portion of the GOP amendments offered were substantive (which, of course, is hardly a criticism). Whether that makes the bill "bipartisan" is a separate question."
Obama does not really have to do anything since the latest GOP bill will never get by the Senate. Of course if it does, he will veto it.
Right now we have the GOP holding the government hostage with 2 different bills.
One bill they want everything but the kitchen sink and they will extend the debt ceiling to December 2014 OR...
The second bill they want a one year delay of Obamacare OR...
What kind of governance is that, SB? Governance by extortion seems to me.
Let us not forget Obama won not one but two elections with Obamacare as his signature piece of legislation. In addition, SCOTUS, with Chief Justice Roberts writing the majority opinion, affirmed that the ACA was constitutiional.
Due respect, SB, but how much more do you want to justify why the GOP should back off from its current path in the House?