What's even more peculiar, to me, is that many of these anti-choice groups also oppose comprehensive sex education and/or contraception services for young adults.

Talk burning the candle at both ends...

 

This despite the real fact that the abortion opponents have mostly won.  Abortion rates are at their lowest in decades.  If the goal was fewer abortions, they have partly succeeded.

 

Further, it was encouraging to hear tee partee and anti-choice darling Rand Paul state there were "thousands of exceptions" to consider when debating public abortion policies and that "every case is different".  By some counts, this would make him a 'squishy' republican.

 

 

 

What's even more peculiar, to me, is that many of these anti-choice groups also oppose comprehensive sex education and/or contraception services for young adults.

Talk burning the candle at both ends...

 

This despite the real fact that the abortion opponents have mostly won.  Abortion rates are at their lowest in decades.  If the goal was fewer abortions, they have partly succeeded.

 

Further, it was encouraging to hear tee partee and anti-choice darling Rand Paul state there were "thousands of exceptions" to consider when debating public abortion policies and that "every case is different".  By some counts, this would make him a 'squishy' republican.

 

 

 

In response to MattyScornD's comment:

 If the goal was fewer abortions, they have partly succeeded.

But that is not their goal.

 

In response to MattyScornD's comment:

 

What's even more peculiar, to me, is that many of these anti-choice groups also oppose comprehensive sex education and/or contraception services for young adults.

Talk burning the candle at both ends...

 

This despite the real fact that the abortion opponents have mostly won.  Abortion rates are at their lowest in decades.  If the goal was fewer abortions, they have partly succeeded.

 

Further, it was encouraging to hear tee partee and anti-choice darling Rand Paul state there were "thousands of exceptions" to consider when debating public abortion policies and that "every case is different".  By some counts, this would make him a 'squishy' republican.

 

 

 

 

 

Europe provides uncensored sex education and promotes condom use. European youth have fewer sex partners than Americans do and begin sex slightly later than Americans. They don't teach abstinence programs in Europe because it's considered to be child abuse.

The U.S. has the highest teen birth rate among 28 developed countries. 52 American teens per 100,000, compared with less than 10 per 100,000 teenage girls in Korea, Japan, Switzerland, the Netherlands, and Sweden.

Although the U.S. rate is dropping, teen births in the Bible and Ignorance Belt remains high: 65 in Mississippi; 64 in Texas; 60 in Arkansas; and 58 per 100,000 in Georgia and Louisiana.

And Europe has lower abortions rates. Roughly 21 abortions per 1,000 women in the U.S., while Europe averages about 12 per 1,000.

 

Although the U.S. rate is dropping, teen births in the Bible and Ignorance Belt remains high: 65 in Mississippi; 64 in Texas; 60 in Arkansas; and 58 per 100,000 in Georgia and Louisiana.

 

Although the U.S. rate is dropping, teen births in the Bible and Ignorance Belt remains high: 65 in Mississippi; 64 in Texas; 60 in Arkansas; and 58 per 100,000 in Georgia and Louisiana.

 

What year is this stat from? Could you post the link?

 

In response to UserName99's comment:

 

 

Although the U.S. rate is dropping, teen births in the Bible and Ignorance Belt remains high: 65 in Mississippi; 64 in Texas; 60 in Arkansas; and 58 per 100,000 in Georgia and Louisiana.

 

What year is this stat from? Could you post the link?

 

 

 "government takeover of a medical procedure"

Pro-abortion zealots consider licensing requirements for this dangerous surgery to be "impinging on constitutional rights"... and routine ultrasounds to determine the age of the fetus are "government vaginal probes"...

Here is the predictable result:

"Today is the second day in the trial of Kermit Gosnell, the infamous Philadelphia abortionist charged with murdering seven newborn babies and one young woman in a botched abortion due to overdose of anesthesia. Gosnell killed the babies with scissors after they had been born – and he wasn’t the only one.

Adrienne Moton, a former employee of Gosnell, testified for the prosecution. CBS Philadelphia reported her testimony:  

"Adrienne Moton broke down several times as she recounted her work at the clinic.

Untrained, she says, she was doing ultrasounds and administering anesthesia within months.  And eventually, she has admitted, she snipped the necks of ‘a good ten’ fetuses.”

Police found $250,000 when they raided Gosnell’s home – and for those who can stomach it, the 281-page Grand Jury report lays out just how Gosnell “gave back” to the women of West Philadelphia:

The premises were dirty and unsanitary. Gosnell routinely relied on unlicensed and untrained staff to treat patients, conduct medical tests, and administer medications without supervision. Even more alarmingly, Gosnell instructed unlicensed workers to sedate patients with dangerous drugs in his absence... In addition, he regularly performed abortions beyond the 24-week limit prescribed by law. As a result, viable babies were born. Gosnell killed them by plunging scissors into their spinal cords. He taught his staff to do the same.

This trial begs the question: where was the Pennsylvania Department of Health? According to the Grand Jury report, Gosnell’s clinic had not been inspected for more than 17 years.

After 1993…the Pennsylvania Department of Health abruptly decided, for political reasons, to stop inspecting abortion clinics at all. The politics in question were not anti-abortion, but pro. With the change of administration from Governor Casey to Governor Ridge, officials concluded that inspections would be “putting a barrier up to women” seeking abortions.

 "government takeover of a medical procedure"

Pro-abortion zealots consider licensing requirements for this dangerous surgery to be "impinging on constitutional rights"... and routine ultrasounds to determine the age of the fetus are "government vaginal probes"...

Here is the predictable result:

"Today is the second day in the trial of Kermit Gosnell, the infamous Philadelphia abortionist charged with murdering seven newborn babies and one young woman in a botched abortion due to overdose of anesthesia. Gosnell killed the babies with scissors after they had been born – and he wasn’t the only one.

Adrienne Moton, a former employee of Gosnell, testified for the prosecution. CBS Philadelphia reported her testimony:  

"Adrienne Moton broke down several times as she recounted her work at the clinic.

Untrained, she says, she was doing ultrasounds and administering anesthesia within months.  And eventually, she has admitted, she snipped the necks of ‘a good ten’ fetuses.”

Police found $250,000 when they raided Gosnell’s home – and for those who can stomach it, the 281-page Grand Jury report lays out just how Gosnell “gave back” to the women of West Philadelphia:

The premises were dirty and unsanitary. Gosnell routinely relied on unlicensed and untrained staff to treat patients, conduct medical tests, and administer medications without supervision. Even more alarmingly, Gosnell instructed unlicensed workers to sedate patients with dangerous drugs in his absence... In addition, he regularly performed abortions beyond the 24-week limit prescribed by law. As a result, viable babies were born. Gosnell killed them by plunging scissors into their spinal cords. He taught his staff to do the same.

This trial begs the question: where was the Pennsylvania Department of Health? According to the Grand Jury report, Gosnell’s clinic had not been inspected for more than 17 years.

After 1993…the Pennsylvania Department of Health abruptly decided, for political reasons, to stop inspecting abortion clinics at all. The politics in question were not anti-abortion, but pro. With the change of administration from Governor Casey to Governor Ridge, officials concluded that inspections would be “putting a barrier up to women” seeking abortions.

But why do you object? Because it has to do with abortion. Otherwise you are all for the government intruding into health care and trampling the Constitution.

 

Kansas is trying to pass yet another one of these misinfo chill-the-right bills.

http://www.kslegislature.org/li/b2013_14/measures/documents/hb2253_01_0000.pdf

One of its provisions requires doctors to tell patients about a linke between abortion and breast cancer. Trouble is, there is no such link.

Yes. Let's have:

(1) government intrusion into individual rights;

(2) government takeover of a medical procedure;

(3) government requiring false information to be told to patients within the context of the procedure;

(4) in order to trample on the constitution.

Genuine conservatives would object because this would seem to violate any number of those things they claim to hold sacred.

"The Kansas bill also defines life as beginning at fertilization, bans abortion providers from tax exemptions, excludes the cost of abortion services from tax deductions for medical expenses, and prohibits abortion providers from giving materials to instructors of sex education classes. That last provision, as the Associated Press explains, was revised after opponents argued that the language was broad enough to ban parents who work for abortion providers (or doctors who perform the procedure themselves) from volunteering in schools."

And here we see more shenanigans true conservatives oppose:

(5) playing favorites with the tax code;

(6) government interference with education.

Of course, the first bit was the whopper: defining life as beginning at fertilization. Kansas can define life however it wants, but it can't put that into direct practice in regards to abortion because of Roe. But, there are other problems. If your state has codified a declaration that a single fertilized cell is a human life, you have created a whole new host of problems.

If a woman has a glass of wine, this is endangering a child, etc.

If a woman has a miscarriage, then the state will need to launch a homicide investigation.
 Because that was a human who died.

And so on. Once you've declared that a fertizlied egg is a human life, you have to treat that egg like any other fully grown adult, and you have to go after the person responsible for it for any bad things that happen to it, just as if it were a child.

Of course, if the state doesn't follow its declaration that life = a fertilized egg to such logical ends, we will know they are lying swine, in addition to being constitution-hating false conservative old-book thumpers. Well we probably know that already, but hey. Benefit of the doubt and all.

 

 

 

Now. Let us open the queue to claims that I am trying to distract BDC conservatives from the economy by posting about something else on this obscure internet backwater, in order to protect Obama from the wrath of their rather limited ranks....     

 

    

In response to MattyScornD's comment:

 

What's even more peculiar, to me, is that many of these anti-choice groups also oppose comprehensive sex education and/or contraception services for young adults.

Talk burning the candle at both ends...

 

This despite the real fact that the abortion opponents have mostly won.  Abortion rates are at their lowest in decades.  If the goal was fewer abortions, they have partly succeeded.

 

Further, it was encouraging to hear tee partee and anti-choice darling Rand Paul state there were "thousands of exceptions" to consider when debating public abortion policies and that "every case is different".  By some counts, this would make him a 'squishy' republican.

 

 

 

 

 

Europe provides uncensored sex education and promotes condom use. European youth have fewer sex partners than Americans do and begin sex slightly later than Americans. They don't teach abstinence programs in Europe because it's considered to be child abuse.

The U.S. has the highest teen birth rate among 28 developed countries. 52 American teens per 100,000, compared with less than 10 per 100,000 teenage girls in Korea, Japan, Switzerland, the Netherlands, and Sweden.

Although the U.S. rate is dropping, teen births in the Bible and Ignorance Belt remains high: 65 in Mississippi; 64 in Texas; 60 in Arkansas; and 58 per 100,000 in Georgia and Louisiana.

And Europe has lower abortions rates. Roughly 21 abortions per 1,000 women in the U.S., while Europe averages about 12 per 1,000.

 

Ya know.  From Mr Literal, who accuses me of generalizing, just who the F is THEY?

It wouldn't be over generalized rebublicanbs and thereby make you like a dick, I hope?

In response to Newtster's comment:  

Hey genius....I'm shaming social conservatives - some of whom are on these boards - for their vile hypocrisy

 

 

Now. Let us open the queue to claims that I am trying to distract BDC conservatives from the economy by posting about something else on this obscure internet backwater, in order to protect Obama from the wrath of their rather limited ranks....     

 

    

Let us open the queue to claims that I am trying to distract BDC conservatives from the economy by posting about something else on this obscure internet backwater, in order to protect Obama from the wrath of their rather limited ranks....

Nice spin