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    This story has something for everyone ....

    Large corporations exercising the 'free speech' aspect of their newly minted 'personhood' to steamroll a regulator who dared to do his job....


    The crony capitalism that pervades local politics where small 'investments' by large businesses pay off handsomely...


    Entrenched energy monopolies who use their unassailable position to reap profits which they recycle to local pols to keep it that way....


    Main characters with names like "Chip" Beeker and Twinkle Cavanaugh, yes that's her given name....


    And it all unfolds in the deep red state of Alabama between two gop-er 'good-ol-boys' vying for a seat on the heretofore obscure Alabama Public Service Commission.


     


    This GOP Regulator Questioned Energy Companies—So They Spent Almost $500,000 to Defeat Him


    MONTGOMERY, Alabama -- When Terry Dunn came to Montgomery two years ago to take his seat on the Alabama Public Service Commission, the unsolicited advice from lobbyists, fellow Republicans, Democrats and political consultants was consistent.


    "Just about everybody told me the same thing: Keep your head down; don't make waves. Go along to get along and you can get re-elected as many times as you want," said the 53-year-old Dunn.


    So, what has Dunn done?


    He's making waves. How? By pushing the PSC to do something it hasn't done in almost two decades: hold formal hearings.


    That would mean putting the big utility companies it regulates -- Alabama Power, Alagasco and Mobile Gas -- under oath to determine why customers of the two natural gas companies are paying more in Alabama for gas than in Mississippi and why Georgia Power customers appear to be paying less for electricity than customers of Alabama Power.


    Dunn's push for formal hearings has created a firestorm of opposition, especially from PSC President Twinkle Cavanaugh, who has called it among other things, a "half-baked" idea and a "full-frontal attack" by "environmental extremists" out to kill Alabama jobs.


    Interest groups with names like JobKeeper Alliance have popped up and attacked Dunn and his chief of staff, David Rountree, charging that both men are in cahoots with "radical environmental groups" out to kill coal jobs in Alabama and shut down Alabama coal-fired power plants.


    Dunn's reaction to all of those charges?


    He shrugs his shoulders and in a low but steady voice says, "It's all a lie. None of it is true and those saying it know it."


    http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/01/public_service_commissioner_te.html


     


    The energy industry's chosen candidate is Chris "Chip" Beeker, a Republican challenging Dunn in the GOP primary. And there is no mistaking Beeker for an environmentalist: On his campaign website, Beeker claims the planet is cooling, not warming. "The so-called 'climate change crisis' is about as real as unicorns and little green men from Mars," he says.


    Beeker's backers in Tuesday's race include Drummond Co., a global coal giant headquartered in Birmingham, which has given him $50,000; R.E.M. Directional, a drilling company near Tuscaloosa that donated $20,000; and ENPAC, a political action committee connected to the Alabama Coal Association that gave him $38,000. Two trade groups, the Alabama Coal Association and Manufacture Alabama, have endorsed Beeker, and big-name Republicans, including former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, have hosted fundraisers for him.


    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/07/alabama-energy-election-chip-beeker-terry-dunn

     
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    This is a perfect example of why corporate 'free speech' is a joke.


    You have a utility monopoly alread gouging customers for electricity, using those same profits to ensure it can continue to gouge it's customers in the future. These corporations are using the residents own money against them.


    If a candidate wants to run against the corporations, he has to solicit donations from the public, the same public is now having to pay for both campaigns ... the business candidate's campaign paid for by corporate profits from monopoly-pricing of electricity ... and a direct donation to the opposing candidate so he can challenge the status quo.


    It's absurd that corporations should be able to use the profits from overcharging local customers to finance campaigns to continue to overcharge local customers.


    This is where corporate cronyism and campaign finance matters, it's not the high profile national elections, it's the local elections for obscure boards where a small amount of money, by coprporate profit standards, can have overwhelming influence and ensures these businesses can continue to exploit customers.... and it's all bought and paid for with the customers own money.

     
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    I suggest you contact your congressmen and senators instead of whining about it

     
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    This is a perfect example of why union  'free speech' is a joke.

     

    You have a union monopoly already gouging the public while failing miserably at everything it does; and then using taxpayer money to ensure it can continue to gouge the public in the future. These unions are using the public's own money against them.

     

    If a candidate wants to run against the public unions , he has to solicit donations from the public, the same public is now having to pay for both campaigns ... the union's campaign paid for by taxpayers from monopoly-gouging mandatory union dues ... and a direct donation to the opposing candidate so he can challenge the status quo.

     

    It's absurd that public unions should be able to use the overtaxed public to finance campaigns to continue to get abrud fat pensions and overcharge local customers.

     

    This is where union cronyism and campaign finance matters, it's not the high profile national elections, it's the local elections for obscure boards where a small amount of money, by unions, can have overwhelming influence and ensures the public sector can continue to exploit the public .... and it's all bought and paid for with the public's own money.

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    Large corporations exercising the 'free speech' aspect of their newly minted 'personhood' to steamroll a regulator who dared to do his job....


     


    The crony capitalism that pervades local politics where small 'investments' by large businesses pay off handsomely...


     


    Entrenched energy monopolies who use their unassailable position to reap profits which they recycle to local pols to keep it that way....


     


    Main characters with names like "Chip" Beeker and Twinkle Cavanaugh, yes that's her given name....


     


    And it all unfolds in the deep red state of Alabama between two gop-er 'good-ol-boys' vying for a seat on the heretofore obscure Alabama Public Service Commission.


     


     


     


    This GOP Regulator Questioned Energy Companies—So They Spent Almost $500,000 to Defeat Him


     


    MONTGOMERY, Alabama -- When Terry Dunn came to Montgomery two years ago to take his seat on the Alabama Public Service Commission, the unsolicited advice from lobbyists, fellow Republicans, Democrats and political consultants was consistent.


     


    "Just about everybody told me the same thing: Keep your head down; don't make waves. Go along to get along and you can get re-elected as many times as you want," said the 53-year-old Dunn.


     


    So, what has Dunn done?


     


    He's making waves. How? By pushing the PSC to do something it hasn't done in almost two decades: hold formal hearings.


     


    That would mean putting the big utility companies it regulates -- Alabama Power, Alagasco and Mobile Gas -- under oath to determine why customers of the two natural gas companies are paying more in Alabama for gas than in Mississippi and why Georgia Power customers appear to be paying less for electricity than customers of Alabama Power.


     


    Dunn's push for formal hearings has created a firestorm of opposition, especially from PSC President Twinkle Cavanaugh, who has called it among other things, a "half-baked" idea and a "full-frontal attack" by "environmental extremists" out to kill Alabama jobs.


     


    Interest groups with names like JobKeeper Alliance have popped up and attacked Dunn and his chief of staff, David Rountree, charging that both men are in cahoots with "radical environmental groups" out to kill coal jobs in Alabama and shut down Alabama coal-fired power plants.


     


    Dunn's reaction to all of those charges?


     


    He shrugs his shoulders and in a low but steady voice says, "It's all a lie. None of it is true and those saying it know it."


     


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    The energy industry's chosen candidate is Chris "Chip" Beeker, a Republican challenging Dunn in the GOP primary. And there is no mistaking Beeker for an environmentalist: On his campaign website, Beeker claims the planet is cooling, not warming. "The so-called 'climate change crisis' is about as real as unicorns and little green men from Mars," he says.


     


    Beeker's backers in Tuesday's race include Drummond Co., a global coal giant headquartered in Birmingham, which has given him $50,000; R.E.M. Directional, a drilling company near Tuscaloosa that donated $20,000; and ENPAC, a political action committee connected to the Alabama Coal Association that gave him $38,000. Two trade groups, the Alabama Coal Association and Manufacture Alabama, have endorsed Beeker, and big-name Republicans, including former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, have hosted fundraisers for him.


     


    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/07/alabama-energy-election-chip-beeker-terry-dunn" rel="nofollow">http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/07/alabama-energy-election-chip-beeker-terry-dunn" rel="nofollow">http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/07/alabama-energy-election-chip-beeker-terry-dunn




    If highroad really thought thru his rant about crony capitalism and the relationship between regulators and Big Corporations, he would realize we might need to de-regulate utilities....and real competition may allow these big electricity providers to be accountable..


    Instead, he will rant about more regulations, and more Government regulators, of the campaign finance variety,  to regulate how much money can be given to regulators running for regulatory seats... if the campaign finance regulators cant do it, he would support another regulator, for the regulators regulating the business...and so on...

     
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    [QUOTE]I suggest you contact your congressmen and senators instead of whining about it




    It's a political discussion forum.


     


     


    No you're right...whining about high-road's whining is worthwhile, but high-road's whining isn't....my bad...


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    What does my comment have to do with you??? You were saying something about an olive-branch?!? : )

     
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    High road is right, we need  honest people to serve on such state agencies, willing to put their career on the line and report corruption, even in their own Party.

    Why, there was a rising young Republican mayor, who served on an Oil and Gas Commission, who uncovered and reported corruption.... in her own Republican Party, and her career was thought to be ended...

    Guess who that was?

    And similarly, young rising star Barack Obama put his career at risk by reporting the open blatant obvious corruption of the Chicago Democratic machine...oh wait, he didnt.. 

     
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    In response to FortySixAndTwo's comment:

    [QUOTE]You were saying something about an olive-branch?!? : )[/QUOTE]

     Israel also usually lobs a few rockets back whenever Hamas breaks a cease-fire.

     

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    Which would make sense if that was what happened but my comment in this thread was to high-road. Just sayin ; )

     

     
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    If highroad really thought thru his rant about crony capitalism and the relationship between regulators and Big Corporations, he would realize we might need to de-regulate utilities....and real competition may allow these big electricity providers to be accountable..


    Instead, he will rant about more regulations, and more Government regulators, of the campaign finance variety,  to regulate how much money can be given to regulators running for regulatory seats... if the campaign finance regulators cant do it, he would support another regulator, for the regulators regulating the business...and so on...




    So your response is to not regulate these entities.


    Let them build where the want, pollute as much as they want, bribe whomever they want ... who needs regulation. The citizens have gotta learn who really runs this country ... and obviously it's not those we elect.


    Yep, what we need is a race to the bottom where everything and anything is up for grabs to be exploited as any business sees fit ... and if it runs contrary to the public interest, too bad because we can't regulate them ... that would be socialism or something.


    Look how well the completely unregulated derivatives market worked out for everyone.


    And what company is going to invest the billions of dollars in capital to compete with an established utility ... one that already owns the transmission lines from generator to home, and all the transformers in the area .... only to get maybe 1/2 of the available customers.


     

     
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    High road is right, we need  honest people to serve on such state agencies, willing to put their career on the line and report corruption, even in their own Party.


    Why, there was a rising young Republican mayor, who served on an Oil and Gas Commission, who uncovered and reported corruption.... in her own Republican Party, and her career was thought to be ended...


    Guess who that was?


    And similarly, young rising star Barack Obama put his career at risk by reporting the open blatant obvious corruption of the Chicago Democratic machine...oh wait, he didnt.. 





    Would that be the same person who raised taxes on the job creators?


    Who was for the crony capitalist bridge-to-nowhere before she was against it?


    Who as 'rising young gop-er' mayor hired the local chair of the gopers in a no-bid contract to build a municipal ice skating rink?


    I guess it's not 'corruption' if you say it isn't.

     
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    If highroad really thought thru his rant about crony capitalism and the relationship between regulators and Big Corporations, he would realize we might need to de-regulate utilities....and real competition may allow these big electricity providers to be accountable..

     

     

    Instead, he will rant about more regulations, and more Government regulators, of the campaign finance variety,  to regulate how much money can be given to regulators running for regulatory seats... if the campaign finance regulators cant do it, he would support another regulator, for the regulators regulating the business...and so on...

     

     

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    So your response is to not regulate these entities.

     

     

    Let them build where the want, pollute as much as they want, bribe whomever they want ... who needs regulation. The citizens have gotta learn who really runs this country ... and obviously it's not those we elect.

     

    Yep, what we need is a race to the bottom where everything and anything is up for grabs to be exploited as any business sees fit ... and if it runs contrary to the public interest, too bad because we can't regulate them ... that would be socialism or something.

     

    Look how well the completely unregulated derivatives market worked out for everyone.

     

    And what company is going to invest the billions of dollars in capital to compete with an established utility ... one that already owns the transmission lines from generator to home, and all the transformers in the area .... only to get maybe 1/2 of the available customers.

     

     

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    The question is how much regulation, vs. how much free market?

    i think regulation of oil and gas companies and utilities is "settled" regulation.

     

     
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    "The question is how much regulation, vs. how much free market?

    i think regulation of oil and gas companies and utilities is "settled" regulation."

     

    I agree there is a balance of regulation, but I do not know what you mean when you say that "the regulation of oil and gas companies is 'settled' regulation.".



     
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    "The question is how much regulation, vs. how much free market?

    i think regulation of oil and gas companies and utilities is "settled" regulation."

     

    I agree there is a balance of regulation, but I do not know what you mean when you say that "the regulation of oil and gas companies is 'settled' regulation.".



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    What I mean by settled regulation is that regulating gas and oil is a long established government action, for better or worse.

    for progressives, that they even exist is still a problem, witness the impact to the coal industry.

     
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    In response to FortySixAndTwo's comment:

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    []You were saying something about an olive-branch?!? : ) []

     Israel also usually lobs a few rockets back whenever Hamas breaks a cease-fire.

     

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    Which would make sense if that was what happened but my comment in this thread was to high-road. Just sayin ; )

     

     

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    Well, Israel also usually retaliates against Hamas generally, not only the Hamas dude who fired the offending rocket in question.

     

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    Huh? Never mind. Let's just move on shall we?

     

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