Too bad Paula Deen isn't a Hollywood progressive like Alec Baldwin

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    Too bad Paula Deen isn't a Hollywood progressive like Alec Baldwin

    Loudmouth progressive and potential NYC Mayoral candidate Alec Baldwin, on the streets of NYC last year, attacks a black reporter and calls him a  'crackhead' and 'coon'. Suffers zero consequences. Then recently he Twitters to a reporter:

    "I’m going to find you, George Stark, you toxic little queen, and I’m gonna f--k…you…up”

    If [sic] put my foot up your f--king as*, George Stark, but I’m sure you’d dig it too much?"

    The liberal media's reaction to one of its own, a leftist Hollywood celebrity?

    ABC: "Alec Baldwin is kind of a loveable rogue. We're kind of sensitized to the fact that Alec Baldwin’s had another outburst."

    " Last night Baldwin apologized to the gay community saying, “The words had absolutely nothing to do with issues of anyone’s sexual orientation.” Baldwin’s wife is now speaking out on Twitter, defending her husband, saying some of her best friends are gay.

    Yes, she really said that!

    Capital One bank , crony capitalist recipient of a bailout of 3.5 billion in taxpayer dollars, keeps paying Baldwin millions for its commercials...

    1980: Paula Deen, in her own home, uses the 'N' word, and admits such in a lawsuit 30 years later.. Loses millions for this transgression, businesses bail on her immediately. An old Southern white woman with a drawl, an Obama supporter, but obviously didnt contribute enough or show up at Hollywood parties...fair game for the race baiters..

     Anderson Cooper at CNN to his credit has pointed out the absurdity of this..

     
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    Re: Too bad Paula Deen isn't a Hollywood progressive like Alec Baldwin

    I don't think this is a left-right thing.  I think it's more of a brand issue - fans of Paula Deen feel a personal connection to her, so thinking less of her hurts her brand.  Alec Baldwin's comments are something you could see his 30-rock character saying, so it's less damaging.  A better liberal comparison, I think, is Michael Richards - one racial tirade was pretty much the end for him.

     
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    "Those of us who are married and/or have children know there are times we are like tigers when it comes to protecting our spouse and our children."

    You defend Baldwin's numerous violent meltdowns? So when Letterman called Palin's 13 year old daughter a sl*t , if Sarah Palin called David Letterman a "queen" and threatened to beat the crap out of him, you would defend Palin? I doubt it.

    "Does not seem any major groups from the LGBT community have taken issue with this incident."

    Thanks for proving my point. "Major groups from the LGBT" are radical leftists.  They are not the be-all and end-all of judgment on this.

    Bottom line: Progressives can get away with it. Double standard doesnt begin to describe this.

     
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    Andrew Sullivan joined this discussion Friday writing, "He’s a pro-gay liberal, so he may get a pass for this. He shouldn’t"

    Ah. but he will...

    despite what Cooper or Sullivan said, GLAAD Vice President of Communications Rich Ferraro gave Baldwin his pass:

    Alec Baldwin is making it clear that the intent behind his tweets does not excuse his language, especially at a time when there were 11 incidents of violence against gay men in New York City just last month. As we all work to end such senseless acts of violence, allies like Baldwin are right to use these moments to reinforce support for the community and LGBT equality.

    And this is always what happens when a liberal says or does something offensive: well-crafted apology, and on his or her way.

    Wouldn't it be nice if conservatives could so easily make amends for their transgressions?



    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/06/29/andrew-sullivan-alec-baldwins-pro-gay-liberal-so-he-may-get-pass-gay#ixzz2XjvjeOSl

     
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    Re: Too bad Paula Deen isn't a Hollywood progressive like Alec Baldwin

    I agree with WDYWN. Anyone who has a problem with this should take it up with the companies who cut ties with her. FWIW...I think the reaction is over the top..considering the remarks were made in the distant past...and clearly...from her actions over the past few years...Deen has atoned for whatever racism she may have been guilty of in the past. I've said this before about others...look at the value of what the person's actions say about them. Look at the work she has done to combat poverty in the South. To me..that speaks more about the person she is today than some comments she made decades ago.

    " Above all..be the heroine in your life..not the victim" Nora Ephron

     
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    "The question to me is whether there is anything about race and diversity in this country that Deen really understands.."

    What the heck does that mean?

    It means if Deen was an avowed progressive , she would get a free pass. The Democratic Senate Majority Leader in the 2000s, Sen Robert Byrd, used the N word many times, even when a Senator, and certainly  when wearing his white sheet as a KKK leader, yet liberals forgave him and appointed him third in line for the Presidency....

     
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    Re: Too bad Paula Deen isn't a Hollywood progressive like Alec Baldwin

    Hahahaha....guess it depends on which side you're on.....disgusting

     
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    Re: Too bad Paula Deen isn't a Hollywood progressive like Alec Baldwin

    In response to miscricket's comment:

    I agree with WDYWN. Anyone who has a problem with this should take it up with the companies who cut ties with her. FWIW...I think the reaction is over the top..considering the remarks were made in the distant past...and clearly...from her actions over the past few years...Deen has atoned for whatever racism she may have been guilty of in the past. I've said this before about others...look at the value of what the person's actions say about them. Look at the work she has done to combat poverty in the South. To me..that speaks more about the person she is today than some comments she made decades ago.

    " Above all..be the heroine in your life..not the victim" Nora Ephron



    I largely agree.  You can't , however, completely dismiss the social environment, where people like Deen is pilloried, and people like Balwdwin largely gets a pass as they evolve.  Similar to the exhange between Reed and Madow on Face the Nation.  The key question:  Why does Obama and other Democrats get a pass on the gay marraige issue?  Both had very strong tranditional marriage postions, as recent as 14 months ago.  Was Obama a homophobe 14 months ago?

     

     
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    Re: Too bad Paula Deen isn't a Hollywood progressive like Alec Baldwin

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    I agree with WDYWN. Anyone who has a problem with this should take it up with the companies who cut ties with her. FWIW...I think the reaction is over the top..considering the remarks were made in the distant past...and clearly...from her actions over the past few years...Deen has atoned for whatever racism she may have been guilty of in the past. I've said this before about others...look at the value of what the person's actions say about them. Look at the work she has done to combat poverty in the South. To me..that speaks more about the person she is today than some comments she made decades ago.

    " Above all..be the heroine in your life..not the victim" Nora Ephron

     



    I largely agree.  You can't , however, completely dismiss the social environment, where people like Deen is pilloried, and people like Balwdwin largely gets a pass as they evolve.  Similar to the exhange between Reed and Madow on Face the Nation.  The key question:  Why does Obama and other Democrats get a pass on the gay marraige issue?  Both had very strong tranditional marriage postions, as recent as 14 months ago.  Was Obama a homophobe 14 months ago?

     

     

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    Skeeter..you can't possibly compare the two. I am pretty sure that most people who support the idea of gay marriage did not support the idea of gay marriage 15 or 20 years ago. I know I didn't..but my position evolved. It wasn't like I was against it..then for it..then against it again..depending on the audience. I was against it..then I slowly came to realize that the world as we know it wasn't going to end if two people of the same gender happened to fall in love and want to share a life together.

    This is not the same as racism.

    As far as Paula Deen..she may be only in her 60's...but she also grew up in the South..where it seems they are just now catching up to the rest of the country in regards to racial tolerance. Just because there were laws against discrimination doesn't mean that people ( mostly in the South) automatically changed beliefs that were generations in the making. I still think Deen is getting a bum rap..but again...the people you should take it up with are the companies who are cutting ties with her. Obama and the government have nothing at all to do with it.

    Oh..and by the way..most of the people I know think Baldwin is a clown and a loser. Does he even have corporate sponsors to cut ties with..? If yes..then take it up with them. Why does Skeeter blame either of these things on government?

     
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    Re: Too bad Paula Deen isn't a Hollywood progressive like Alec Baldwin

    Progressives and MSM love to make an example and excoriate people like Deen.  You know southern conservative traditional people who sometimes fall back to the language of their parents at times of tension and frustration, like when a black man points a gun at your head during a robbery.  On the other hand funny people who make a living making fun of traditional people who sometimes fall back on their own deep biases get a pass, well because we (MSM) like them.

    Baldwin has a history of angry rants, bashing his own daughter, aggressively going after the papparazzi (well somewhat justified) and now he trashes a tabloid reporter with homophibic rants for outing his wife for tweetng during Gandolfini's funeral.

    Deen a nice southern women hawking her southern cooking gets pummeled for an admitted N bomb  back in the eighties when describing he rbeing robbed with a gun being pointed at her by a blackman, who by the way is upset with what's happened to Deen.

    I know which one I'd rather see move to Canada; he threatened to before so let's encourage him now.

     

    ...the man who really counts in the world is the doer,...  TR 1891

     
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    Re: Too bad Paula Deen isn't a Hollywood progressive like Alec Baldwin

    "And chik-a-fil made lots of money when its CEO said he didn't like gay marriage"

     

    Apples and hand grenades...

     
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    Re: Too bad Paula Deen isn't a Hollywood progressive like Alec Baldwin

    This has nothing at all to do with government.

     

    Which is why no one in this thread has said as much.

     
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    Re: Too bad Paula Deen isn't a Hollywood progressive like Alec Baldwin

    All of the companies who dropped Deen did so because they wanted to, they didn't have to.  No one made them.


    This isn't an issue of progressives versus whoever you persecuted types like to believe is coming after you, she made statements on the record that people who pay her to represent them found distasteful, and took action as they saw fit. 

     
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    Re: Too bad Paula Deen isn't a Hollywood progressive like Alec Baldwin


    I found her recipes to be gluttonous, unimaginative, and one step removed from junk food.  I am hardly surprised by similar revelations about her character.

    I don't weep for an old woman who only became apologetic about her latent racism when it affected her pocketbook.

     
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    "As far as Paula Deen..she may be only in her 60's...but she also grew up in the South..where it seems they are just now catching up to the rest of the country in regards to racial tolerance. Just because there were laws against discrimination doesn't mean that people ( mostly in the South) automatically changed beliefs that were generations in the making."

    Typical Northern liberal smugness. It will remain permanently 1960 in the ossified liberal mind. The old South run by racist Democrats is long gone, thankfully ; the South was invaded again, successfully; fully half of Virginians are transplants like myself. The US state with the highest number of blacks elected to state and local offices? Mississippi.

    Blacks are migrating in huge numbers out of the failed liberal inner cities, just like many Americans, to jobs and opportunites in the South...perhaps it is Boston in the 70s which needed to catch up with racial tolerance, wasnt it?

     
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    Re: Too bad Paula Deen isn't a Hollywood progressive like Alec Baldwin

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    All of the companies who dropped Deen did so because they wanted to, they didn't have to.  No one made them.


    This isn't an issue of progressives versus whoever you persecuted types like to believe is coming after you, she made statements on the record that people who pay her to represent them found distasteful, and took action as they saw fit. 

     

    Perhaps you might think about why NBC does nothing about Baldwin? It isn't like he doesn't have a history of this sort of thing either. Yeah, sure they can do what they want. That isn't the point. The question is why does NBC do nothing about him? Could it be because he makes a lot of money for them or is it because he is a flaming librul or both? Paula Dean presumably made some money for the Food Network too so why are their standards apparently different?

    This is about the hypocrisy you types engage in. 

     

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