Valerie Jarrett to Hollywood: Shill for ObamaCare in Your Scripts

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    Valerie Jarrett to Hollywood: Shill for ObamaCare in Your Scripts

    The Obama administration thinks Hollywood can do much more to promote its signature health care reform.

    Stars from Lady Gaga to Scandal's Kerry Washington have been promoting ObamaCare via social media. The humor site Funny or Die has produced a series of videos shilling for the reform, including one featuring President Barack Obama himself.

    That's simply not enough, says Obama advisor Valerie Jarrett. Now, she wants Hollywood screenwriters to start dropping ObamaCare references into their scripts--assuming said shout outs will be positive, of course. Is there any doubt some scribes will gleefully abide by her wishes?

    Jarrett told the hosts of PopSugar.com that she is currently in L.A. to instruct screenwriters they, too, must do their part to promote ObamaCare.

    "That's part of why I'm in L.A. I'm meeting with writers of various TV shows and movies to try to get it into the scripts." When Jarrett says "it into the scripts," she's referring to getting references to Obamacare, the president's signature legislation, into the scripts of TV shows and movies.

    Meanwhile, in the real world, approval for ObamaCare continues to tank as Americans learn more about a reform sold with a bundle of lies by the administration and a media unwilling to vet said reform.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2014/03/28/jarrett-hollywood-write-obamacare

     
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    Have you ever had an original thought, CLC?

    You ever get tired of running to the echo chambers to be told what to be angry about?

    You should return those checks ya got shilling for the wingnuts ... reposting stuff from your betters ain't exactly original content.

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    Do you ever have a thought, original or not?

     
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    Is no one else concerned about the White House effort to force political propaganda into the popular culture?

     

     
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    Is no one else concerned about the White House effort to force political propaganda into the popular culture?

     

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    The worst part is, it is done surreptitiously, sneaking in plotlines where Obamcare is made to look good....


    Bush did it !  Oh wait, he didnt... dont recall TV sitcoms gratuitously throwing in positive references to the Iraq war...

    Hollywood liberals are glad to sell out artistic freedom to buddy up with Government officials..after all, an audience with the Pres would help their career, along with those Hollywood tax breaks for millionaires ...

     
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    Heh, heh, heh ... ya, I guess pushing lies and propaganda through the news media to sell the Iraq debacle was soooo much better.

    That was "patriotic"; sending American soldiers half-way around the world to bleed and die, all for a lie.

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    Yeah, better to lie about an a health care insurance plan that isn't even insurance, get millions of policies cancelled and watch some of those people die in the middle of treatment because they can't pay out of pocket.

    Those deaths are an acceptable cost for socialists as they are dying for the cause of equality! Everyone gets the same lousy insurance except the 1%ers you spend half your life hating on. 

    Thanks for nothin' pal.

     
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    I guess the Koch's bros never funded a misleading ad about the ACA

     
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    In response to Hansoribrother's comment:

     

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    Heh, heh, heh ... ya, I guess pushing lies and propaganda through the news media to sell the Iraq debacle was soooo much better.

    That was "patriotic"; sending American soldiers half-way around the world to bleed and die, all for a lie.

     



    Yeah, better to lie about an a health care insurance plan that isn't even insurance, get millions of policies cancelled and watch some of those people die in the middle of treatment because they can't pay out of pocket.

     

    Those deaths are an acceptable cost for socialists as they are dying for the cause of equality! Everyone gets the same lousy insurance except the 1%ers you spend half your life hating on. 

    Thanks for nothin' pal.

     

     

     




    Geepers, no need to just outright lie when you lose an argument. It just belies your ideological ignorance.

     

    Just curious ... do you have any evidence that people are dying because of ACA? Of course you don't because even the premise is laughable. You just like to stick your head up your colon when it comes to the fact that prior to ACA, healthcare expenses were the leading cause of bankruptcies in the US. I suppose those people don't count.

     

    Obama: "With ObamaCare, if you like going bankrupt due to medical expenses, you can keep going bankrupt"....

    Do you have any evidence bankruptcies due to medical expense will end with Obamacare?

    "Even Jonathan Gruber, who helped design the ACA and has been one of the biggest promoters, has acknowledged, “There are some groups for whom affordability remains a concern. Most important are those with high out-of-pocket spending—in particular those in the income range from two to three times the poverty level. For all those below five times the poverty level, more than 10 percent of families cannot afford both premiums and out-of-pocket costs if they are very sick.

    Soon some people are going to buy “Obamacare” coverage. They are then going to get real sick and go broke as a result of big medical bills.

    In the future this might not get as much media coverage as the “keep your insurance” pledge because it does not play into partisan fights, but it should be a big scandal because stopping medical bankruptcy was supposedly a main justification for the law."

     
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    I guess the Koch's bros never funded a misleading ad about the ACA

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    I was talking about propaganda from the government, not politial speech from private citizens which we all have a right to do. Are you comparing these two things?

     

     
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    Sorry StalkingButler because of the SCOTUS ruling in favor of Citizen United the Koch Brothers wealth has bought legislative and judicial power. In my opinion  the Koch Brothers have stop being private citizens like you and me and have become a part of our government and they are most dangerous and powerful forces in one of our political parties .

     
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    Heh, heh, heh ... ya, I guess pushing lies and propaganda through the news media to sell the Iraq debacle was soooo much better.

    That was "patriotic"; sending American soldiers half-way around the world to bleed and die, all for a lie ... the neo-cons support that kind of 'shilling'.

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                   "Lies and propaganda" were pushed through the news media to sell Iraq?

                    

     
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    In response to twelve_angry_men's comment:
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    Heh, heh, heh ... ya, I guess pushing lies and propaganda through the news media to sell the Iraq debacle was soooo much better.

    That was "patriotic"; sending American soldiers half-way around the world to bleed and die, all for a lie ... the neo-cons support that kind of 'shilling'.




                   "Lies and propaganda" were pushed through the news media to sell Iraq?

                    

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     Judith Miller a NYT reporter wrote an NYT article in the fall of 2002 about WMD in Iraq. I always thought that WMDs were the main reason for the invasion of Iraq. The story of the WMDs was leaked to Ms Miller by the dubya administration btw no WMDs were ever found in Iraq ..... Lie # 1

     
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    In response to enuffisenuff's comment:

     

    In response to twelve_angry_men's comment:
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    Heh, heh, heh ... ya, I guess pushing lies and propaganda through the news media to sell the Iraq debacle was soooo much better.

    That was "patriotic"; sending American soldiers half-way around the world to bleed and die, all for a lie ... the neo-cons support that kind of 'shilling'.

     




     

                   "Lies and propaganda" were pushed through the news media to sell Iraq?

                    

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     Judith Miller a NYT reporter wrote an NYT article in the fall of 2002 about WMD in Iraq. I always thought that WMDs were the main reason for the invasion of Iraq. The story of the WMDs was leaked to Ms Miller by the dubya administration btw no WMDs were ever found in Iraq ..... Lie # 1

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                    "Leaked"?  Didn't everyone know about WMD in Iraq? Understood that the information was wrong and that the war was bungled by a fool but, did that fool lie?

                      Did that fool push propaganda and lies through the media?

                      That is my question.

                       

     
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    In response to Sistersledge's comment:
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    In response to enuffisenuff's comment:

     

    In response to twelve_angry_men's comment:
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    Heh, heh, heh ... ya, I guess pushing lies and propaganda through the news media to sell the Iraq debacle was soooo much better.

    That was "patriotic"; sending American soldiers half-way around the world to bleed and die, all for a lie ... the neo-cons support that kind of 'shilling'.

     




     

                   "Lies and propaganda" were pushed through the news media to sell Iraq?

                    

    [/QUOTE]


     Judith Miller a NYT reporter wrote an NYT article in the fall of 2002 about WMD in Iraq. I always thought that WMDs were the main reason for the invasion of Iraq. The story of the WMDs was leaked to Ms Miller by the dubya administration btw no WMDs were ever found in Iraq ..... Lie # 1

    [/QUOTE]   Not a lie! If it was a lie, Bill and Hillary, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Senate Democrats lied as well.....
    1. "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
      President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

      Quoted on CNN

      We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." — Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

    2. "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." — President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

      3. "We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the US Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." — Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Tom Daschle (D-SD), John Kerry (D — MA), and others Oct. 9, 1998protest publicly against this treatment. Hans Blix may dislike running ''a defection agency,' but that could be the only way to obtain truthful information about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction — Sen. Joseph Biden
      Both Senators John Kerry and John Edwards voted for Resolution HJ 114 which puts Congress on record as approving President Bush's actions....
     
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    Sorry StalkingButler because of the SCOTUS ruling in favor of Citizen United the Koch Brothers wealth has bought legislative and judicial power. In my opinion  the Koch Brothers have stop being private citizens like you and me and have become a part of our government and they are most dangerous and powerful forces in one of our political parties .

     


    The Center for Responsive Politics' list of top all-time donors from 1989 to 2014 ranks Koch Industries No. 59. Above Koch were 18 unions, which collectively spent $620,873,623 more than Koch Industries ($18 million). Even factoring in undisclosed personal donations by the Koch brothers, they are a rounding error in union spending.

    And of course, the cash contributions dont take into account that the public employee and private unions are a veritable political army, totally working for Democrats ....

    The "dangerous and powerful force" are public unions...just the pension obligations will soon bankrupt many cities and states...

    WSJ: "In the past months alone, unions demanded an exemption to a tax under ObamaCare; the administration gave it. They demanded an end to plans to "fast track" trade deals; Mr. Reid killed it. They wanted more money for union job training; President Obama put it in his budget. Everybody understands—the press matter-of-fact reports it—that these policy giveaways are to ensure unions open their coffers to help Mr. Reid keep the Senate in November. The quid pro quo is even more explicit and self-serving at the state level, where public-sector unions elect politicians who promise to pay them more. If the CEO of Exxon tried this, the Justice Department would come knocking. The unions do it daily."

     
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    Sorry StalkingButler because of the SCOTUS ruling in favor of Citizen United the Koch Brothers wealth has bought legislative and judicial power. In my opinion  the Koch Brothers have stop being private citizens like you and me and have become a part of our government and they are most dangerous and powerful forces in one of our political parties .

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    Sister, you're drinking the kool-aid. Lots of wealthy people on both sides use money to try to sway things. The Koch bros are not special in this regard.

     

     
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    In response to enuffisenuff's comment:

     

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    Heh, heh, heh ... ya, I guess pushing lies and propaganda through the news media to sell the Iraq debacle was soooo much better.

    That was "patriotic"; sending American soldiers half-way around the world to bleed and die, all for a lie ... the neo-cons support that kind of 'shilling'.

     




     

                   "Lies and propaganda" were pushed through the news media to sell Iraq?

                    

     




    Yep.

     

    Nov 2001  Pentagon official Richard Perle: "He has weapons of mass destruction. The lesser risk is in pre-emption. We've got to stop wishing away the problem."

    Obvious that was a lie.


    26 Aug 2002 Vice President Dick Cheney declares: "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us."

    Obviously there was doubt else we would have found the weapons.


    18 Sep 2002 Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld tells the House Armed Services Commitee: "[Saddam] has amassed large clandestine stocks of biological weapons... including anthrax and botulism toxin and possibly smallpox. His regime has amassed large clandestine stockpiles of chemical weapons, including VX and sarin and mustard gas... [he] has at this moment stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons." 

    Obviously a lie.


    28 Oct 2002 During a speech at the Riner Steinhoff Soccer Complex in Alamogordo, New Mexico, President George W Bush declares: "He's got weapons of mass destruction."

    Well where are they?


    21 Mar 2003 White House spokesman Ari Fleischer declares: "Well, there is no question that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly."

    Obvious a lie.

    1 Mar 2003, Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense "We know where they are [Iraq's weapons of mass destruction]. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."

    Obvious lie.  

    President George W. Bush, in the 2003 State of the Union address, uttered the infamous "16 words": "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

    Even Colin Powell called Bush on that one.

     

    All those statements, and more, were presented as declarations of fact. No equivocation, no hedging, no sense of any doubt what so ever. They all were reported by the news media as statements of facts, no questions asked. 

    Not a single one of those statements were proven to be true.

    If you present something as an unquestionable fact even though you know it's no better than a guess - at best - then you are lying. When you say you "know" something when you really don't know anything, then you are straight-up lying. You are purposely twisting the facts and giving the audience a false sense in the reliability of your speculation. You are trying to convince people that you "know" something when you really don't "know" anything. It is the textbook definition of propaganda.

     

    propaganda  (ˌprɒpəˈɡændə)

      n 1. the organized dissemination of information, allegations, etc, to assist or damage the cause of a government, movement, etc

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                   Because they weren't "proven true" does not mean they were lies and propaganda.  I think the world for years stated clearly that there were WMD. I think another poster (above) showed the large amounts of info presented from both sides for moving on Iraq.

                   I can't deal with ideologues. I vote for the Democrat nine times out of ten because they make more sense to me.  However, the truth is the truth.  The truth about Iraq is, Democrats and Republicans wanted to go, voted to go, and went.

                   Bush bungled it up, but nobody lied and nobody pushed the media to influence a war.

     

     
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    In response to enuffisenuff's comment:

     

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    Heh, heh, heh ... ya, I guess pushing lies and propaganda through the news media to sell the Iraq debacle was soooo much better.

    That was "patriotic"; sending American soldiers half-way around the world to bleed and die, all for a lie ... the neo-cons support that kind of 'shilling'.

     




     

                   "Lies and propaganda" were pushed through the news media to sell Iraq?

                    

     




    Yep.

     

    Nov 2001  Pentagon official Richard Perle: "He has weapons of mass destruction. The lesser risk is in pre-emption. We've got to stop wishing away the problem."

    Obvious that was a lie.


    26 Aug 2002 Vice President Dick Cheney declares: "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us."

    Obviously there was doubt else we would have found the weapons.


    18 Sep 2002 Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld tells the House Armed Services Commitee: "[Saddam] has amassed large clandestine stocks of biological weapons... including anthrax and botulism toxin and possibly smallpox. His regime has amassed large clandestine stockpiles of chemical weapons, including VX and sarin and mustard gas... [he] has at this moment stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons." 

    Obviously a lie.


    28 Oct 2002 During a speech at the Riner Steinhoff Soccer Complex in Alamogordo, New Mexico, President George W Bush declares: "He's got weapons of mass destruction."

    Well where are they?


    21 Mar 2003 White House spokesman Ari Fleischer declares: "Well, there is no question that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly."

    Obvious a lie.

    1 Mar 2003, Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense "We know where they are [Iraq's weapons of mass destruction]. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."

    Obvious lie.  

    President George W. Bush, in the 2003 State of the Union address, uttered the infamous "16 words": "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

    Even Colin Powell called Bush on that one.

     

    All those statements, and more, were presented as declarations of fact. No equivocation, no hedging, no sense of any doubt what so ever. They all were reported by the news media as statements of facts, no questions asked. 

    Not a single one of those statements were proven to be true.

    If you present something as an unquestionable fact even though you know it's no better than a guess - at best - then you are lying. When you say you "know" something when you really don't know anything, then you are straight-up lying. You are purposely twisting the facts and giving the audience a false sense in the reliability of your speculation. You are trying to convince people that you "know" something when you really don't "know" anything. It is the textbook definition of propaganda.

     

    propaganda  (ˌprɒpəˈɡændə)

      n 1. the organized dissemination of information, allegations, etc, to assist or damage the cause of a government, movement, etc

     




     

                   Because they weren't "proven true" does not mean they were lies and propaganda.  I think the world for years stated clearly that there were WMD. I think another poster (above) showed the large amounts of info presented from both sides for moving on Iraq.

                   I can't deal with ideologues. I vote for the Democrat nine times out of ten because they make more sense to me.  However, the truth is the truth.  The truth about Iraq is, Democrats and Republicans wanted to go, voted to go, and went.

                   Bush bungled it up, but nobody lied and nobody pushed the media to influence a war.

     

     

     




    Heh, heh, heh ... apparently your the person that everyone sells their bridges to.

     

     

    The majority of Democrats in Congress voted against military action.

    And even if they all voted for war, that only proves the lies worked, not that they weren't lies.

    If someone makes an unequivocal, unparsed and unambiguous declaration that they "know" something to be true and that statement turns out to be untrue, then they were lying when they made the statement.

    If someone makes a strong but hedged statement in which they 'believe' something to be true or they 'think' it is true and it turns out to be untrue then they didn't lie.

    You can't go around stating something to be 'known' when it isn't.

    Words have meaning and there were plenty of other less specific words the little-Bush administration could've used but they didn't. They chose those particular words for a reason; to convey a sense of specificity, of finality, of "knowledge" yet in truth, none of those words applied to what they actually knew about wmd in Iraq.

    They lied, and they lied to convince people to support the Iraq debacle. That is textbook propaganda.

     



                           Okay. Thank you for proving my point about ideology and blind support for the letter after a politicians name. 

                           When I saw Bush Lied People Died bumper stickers I would laugh out loud. Do you still have a faded one on your car?

     
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    Sorry StalkingButler because of the SCOTUS ruling in favor of Citizen United the Koch Brothers wealth has bought legislative and judicial power. In my opinion  the Koch Brothers have stop being private citizens like you and me and have become a part of our government and they are most dangerous and powerful forces in one of our political parties .

    [/QUOTE]

    Sister, you're drinking the kool-aid. Lots of wealthy people on both sides use money to try to sway things. The Koch bros are not special in this regard.

     

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    StalkingButler I don't always drink the kool-aid but when I do I make it with bottled water

    btw the last time I did drink kool-aid it was cherry flavored and the water came out of a water buffalo and I used it to wash down C-RATS

     

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