Vindicated... told ya so - Climate Change aka Global Warming

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vindicated... told ya so - Climate Change aka Global Warming : I thought you guys believed climate change was real, but not driven by man. WHich is it? Either way, anyone living in Boston, knows the weather has been crazy lately.
    Posted by ForumCleaner[/QUOTE]

    We weren't talking about what we believe, we were talking about what wealthy supporters of democrats and supposed believers of climate change believe.

    Now, if I were a rich beach front property owner and true believer in Al Gore's vision of the apocalypse to be I'm pretty sure that I'd be looking to unload it on some poor sap who isn't smart enough to believe.

    As far as I know that doesn't seem to be happening. There seems to be a disconnect here, can you explain it for me?





     
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    [QUOTE]I have read the articles.  I have read many more just like it. You ignored the basic theme.  Water vapor causes the vast majority of the green hosue effects. So how do you address that?  You don't. But typical usual response, strawmen.  Water vapor would exist without Hummers.  Water levels rising BS.  Only glaciers increase water levels.  And 90% of ice is found in an environment that would require a change of 39 degrees celcius. 
    Posted by whatnow3[/QUOTE]

    I remember early debates that showed human contributions to "greenhouse gases" to be as little as .05%.  Since then two leading global warming activitists have claimed that it is too late for us to do anything about it.

    They are correct, because we had nothing to do with it to begin with.  If we return to caveman living, we will cut .05% of the greenhouse gases.  This is the biggest scam in world history... no surprise liberals are behind it.  Do they ever tell the truth?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vindicated... told ya so - Climate Change aka Global Warming : There is more intelligence in a package of Oscar Meyer hot dogs than in OscarBorzach.  Whether man has a role in increasing tempertures IS NOT an issue of politics, it is an issue of science.  What we do about it is an issue of politics.  Only a dolt would think he is smarter than people that are experts in the field.  Only a loon thinks everything is driven by poltical conspiracies.  Go back to checking for reds under your bed maybe you will find your medication there.
    Posted by Reubenhop[/QUOTE]


    Im not up on most of the climate debate....but i do believe that global warming and climate change exists. Ruben, do you think nuts like oscar and others here hate climate change because Al Gore was an advocate for the cause. I remember his book "earth in the balance" so I think he has been an environmental advocate for years. that aside, It also seems the RW hate of science continues


     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vindicated... told ya so - Climate Change aka Global Warming : I thought you guys believed climate change was real, but not driven by man. WHich is it? Either way, anyone living in Boston, knows the weather has been crazy lately.
    Posted by ForumCleaner[/QUOTE]

    And there is meteorological data that backs up your statement?

    AP newswire:

    Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore reportedly has had a change of heart on ethanol, telling a conference on green energy in Europe that he only supported tax breaks for the alternative fuel to pander to farmers in his home state of Tennessee and the first-in-the-nation caucuses state of Iowa.

    Speaking at a green energy business conference in Athens sponsored by Marfin Popular Bank, Gore said the lobbyists have wrongly kept alive the program he once touted.


     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vindicated... told ya so - Climate Change aka Global Warming : It's always nice of you to emerge from the cellar just to spew hate on the boards, especially whan you have nothing to add to the forum, putz!
    Posted by dazydo[/QUOTE]

    Dazydo calling the kettle black and spewing venom on the forum, who'd have thunk it
    ?
     
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    Conservatives are conflicted with the whole climate change issue. They cant seem to wrap their collective heads around the idea that all the smog and pollution man as been emitting since the industrial revolution could possibly be detrimental to the environment. Why not? Who knows, because a lib brought it up? Seems like a stupid reason to me but hey, what can ya do, they truly are the party of NO...




     
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    [QUOTE]Conservatives are conflicted with the whole climate change issue. They cant seem to wrap their collective heads around the idea that all the smog and pollution man as been emitting since the industrial revolution could possibly be detrimental to the environment. Why not? Who knows, because a lib brought it up? Seems like a stupid reason to me but hey, what can ya do, they truly are the party of NO...
    Posted by Bill.the.Cat[/QUOTE]

    You know the liberal is in trouble when they pull new lies out of their pants.

    You seem to confuse a love for a clean environment which all Americans share with the marxist agenda of the man-made global warming crowd.  But then again, your post was not intended to win the debate... just deflect the fact that you cannot win any debate on man-made global warming.

    This reminds me of debating a marxist on illegal immigration... after giving a long list of problems caused by illegal immigration, the marxist replies that "our country was founded on immigrants." ... idiots one and all.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vindicated... told ya so - Climate Change aka Global Warming : I think most of us can agree its been a mild fall and winter to say the least in Boston. Somehow I don't feel compelled to back the observation up with data, because I don't take orders from priks and dooosh bags.
    Posted by ForumCleaner[/QUOTE]

    Mild Fall yes....mild winter? We'll see since winter hasn't occurred yet.

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vindicated... told ya so - Climate Change aka Global Warming : You know the liberal is in trouble when they pull new lies out of their pants. You seem to confuse a love for a clean environment which all Americans share with the marxist agenda of the man-made global warming crowd.  But then again, your post was not intended to win the debate... just deflect the fact that you cannot win any debate on man-made global warming. This reminds me of debating a marxist on illegal immigration... after giving a long list of problems caused by illegal immigration, the marxist replies that "our country was founded on immigrants." ... idiots one and all.
    Posted by OscarBozachT00[/QUOTE]

    Its not a deflection, its merely an observation. There is no debate with you as you clearly have no intention of debating. You state your position, prop it up with strawhorses and cherry picked quotes, and call everyone who even slightly disagrees with you a liberal and a marxist, as if its somehow an insult. And thats part of the underlying problem. You consider liberals to be lesser beings than you (which is elitist at least). That not debating, thats trolling.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vindicated... told ya so - Climate Change aka Global Warming : "Strawhorses and cherry picked quotes?" You mean: - Destroying evidence - Withholding data - Falsifying UN reports - Falsifying results - Blocking opposing view from publication - Threats to the opposition - Collusion - 30 years of false claims - 30 years of false predictions - Forced to change the name of your movement 3 times as you are proven wrong Bill... your only rebuttal is that if you don't worship man-made global warming God Al Gore, that you want more polution. It is the argument of a child.  But then again, all liberals act like children... so I understand.
    Posted by OscarBozachT00[/QUOTE]

    And there you go again proving my point..
    You think if someone is concerned about the environment and prefer to see pollution get cleaned up, they are some sort of Al Gore worshipping tree hugging marxist liberal. This thinking is your only rebuttal, and that is what is childish.

    You obviously dont remember covering this before where you just ended up admitting climate change actually existed before the usual liberal ranting and whining. Just the same stuff, differant day with you.
     
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    Is Van Jones a communist and an environmentalist?  He thinks so.
     
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    Is Obama's environment czar, Browner, a socialist and an environmentalist?  Well, she is head of a task force for the Socialists International, obviously a socialist group.
     
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    Obama with socialists?? .. Tell me it ain't so Billy !!!
    But but he sounded so nice when he campaigned.

    Have a nice day comrad.
     
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    Carl Pope, head of the Serria Club, is he a marxist?  He certainly acts like one, gives unwavering support to Van Jones, and every other socialist/marxist idea regardless of its environmental relevancy.
     
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    I could go on and on.  Face it.  The socialist and the marxists moved over tot he environmental groups as they lost favor in general, and see the environment AND global warming as an avenue to achieve their broader political goals.
     
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    [QUOTE]I could go on and on.  Face it.  The socialist and the marxists moved over tot he environmental groups as they lost favor in general, and see the environment AND global warming as an avenue to achieve their broader political goals.
    Posted by skeeter20[/QUOTE]

    You apparently think the vast majority of climatologists are Marxists willing to support a conspiracy to fool the populace about the global warming hoax so they can push some secret political agenda.  Pretty insipid. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vindicated... told ya so - Climate Change aka Global Warming : You apparently think the vast majority of climatologists are Marxists willing to support a conspiracy to fool the populace about the global warming hoax so they can push some secret political agenda.  Pretty insipid. 
    Posted by Reubenhop[/QUOTE]

    1. When opposing views are blocked from industry publication, how do they get exposed to another position?
    2. When grants and funding are limited to projects that prove the theory of man-made global warming, how do they get exposed to another position?
    3. When there are public threats to those who do not agree, how does one learn of opposing views?
    4. If your job depends on you agreeing with Al Glore, then you have the mess we have today
    5. If the UPCC distorts the report yet keeps the signatures in place before the alteration, how would one know of the corruption behind this effort
    6. When the "experts" hide, withold or destroy the data to prevent the fraud from being exposed, how does one know what is real and what is not?

    In summary, everyone who is behind man-made global warming is either on the public dole (grants, research, etc), a marxist, a socialist or a Democrat (redundant).
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vindicated... told ya so - Climate Change aka Global Warming : 1. When opposing views are blocked from industry publication, how do they get exposed to another position? 2. When grants and funding are limited to projects that prove the theory of man-made global warming, how do they get exposed to another position? 3. When there are public threats to those who do not agree, how does one learn of opposing views? 4. If your job depends on you agreeing with Al Glore, then you have the mess we have today 5. If the UPCC distorts the report yet keeps the signatures in place before the alteration, how would one know of the corruption behind this effort 6. When the "experts" hide, withold or destroy the data to prevent the fraud from being exposed, how does one know what is real and what is not? In summary, everyone who is behind man-made global warming is either on the public dole (grants, research, etc), a marxist, a socialist or a Democrat (redundant).
    Posted by OscarBozachT00[/QUOTE]

    You cannot contest the facts so you simply allege more conspiracy.  Try proving your assertions.  But you will ignore this basic aspect of debate, because to you the theory is more important than the facts.  You are as bad as any Marxist in your thought patterns.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vindicated... told ya so - Climate Change aka Global Warming : You cannot contest the facts so you simply allege more conspiracy.  Try proving your assertions.  But you will ignore this basic aspect of debate, because to you the theory is more important than the facts.  You are as bad as any Marxist in your thought patterns.
    Posted by Reubenhop[/QUOTE]

    Hey,  I brought the facts.  Three of the biggest global warming/environment leaders, all socialists/marxists.  There are more, many more. I left out the countless articles from the communist online site, where they are OUT IN THE OPEN ABOUT USING GLOBAL WARMING TO LEAD THE WORLD TOWARDS SOCIALISM.

    Drop the scales from your eyes.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vindicated... told ya so - Climate Change aka Global Warming : You cannot contest the facts so you simply allege more conspiracy.
    Posted by Reubenhop[/QUOTE]

    Reuben, I listed six facts.... you drew the conclusion they form a conspiracy.

    There are no "facts" behind man-made global warming.   That is why Al Gore declared the theory conclusive back in 1989 ... before a single major study had been conducted.  Because the facts didn't matter, only the outcome... "the ends justify the means."

    Reuben, why did you think Al Gore called man-made global warming a fact back in 1989 and said "the debate is over?"  I would like to hear your explaination to this bizarre statement.  Although, as a Saul Alinsky liberal, you are taught never to answer a question that exposes you as a fraud.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vindicated... told ya so - Climate Change aka Global Warming : Reuben, I listed six facts.... you drew the conclusion they form a conspiracy. There are no "facts" behind man-made global warming.   That is why Al Gore declared the theory conclusive back in 1989 ... before a single major study had been conducted.  Because the facts didn't matter, only the outcome... "the ends justify the means." Reuben, why did you think Al Gore called man-made global warming a fact back in 1989 and said "the debate is over?"  I would like to hear your explaination to this bizarre statement.  Although, as a Saul Alinsky liberal, you are taught never to answer a question that exposes you as a fraud.
    Posted by OscarBozachT00[/QUOTE]


    Actually you listed some assertions and conclusions. You didn't support them with facts people can verify.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vindicated... told ya so - Climate Change aka Global Warming : Actually you listed some assertions and conclusions. You didn't support them with facts people can verify.
    Posted by ForumCleaner[/QUOTE]

    The only people who do not know those six items are facts, listen exclusively to NPR, CBS, NBC and read the Boston Globe where you are limited to filter and controlled news.

    Everyone else are well aware of Climategate and the other facts.  If liberals want censored news, don't be surprised if you are ignorant of the facts.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vindicated... told ya so - Climate Change aka Global Warming : Actually you listed some assertions and conclusions. You didn't support them with facts people can verify.
    Posted by ForumCleaner[/QUOTE]

    By the way, the dialogue usually goes something like this:

    1. OSCAR: So my facts are not substantiated?  So are you saying that when I prove supporting information, then you will concede that the man-made global warming movement is a fraud?

    2. LIBERAL: "Your statements are not fact, I dispute them and my Global Warming movement would never do such horrible and dishonest things."

    3. OSCAR provides the links needed to confirm the six statements are indeed fact.

    4. LIBERAL: "I never cared if it was true... they are trying to save the planet. Why do you hate the planet so much?"

    When you debate rudderless people... it is a waste of time.  They indeed have a mental illness.
     
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    Last but not least, last summer I debated a neighbor on Obamacare.

    I claimed that it was a major step towards socialism and socialized medicine.  The neighbor vehemently disagreed that it was not evil socialism or socialized medicine.  He angrily followed that Obama and the Democrats were not socialists!

    Then after I proved key points, he ended the debate with "Well, I like socialism.  I think socialized medicine is the way to go."


     

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