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What is is with Florida?

  1. You have chosen to ignore posts from miscricket. Show miscricket's posts

    What is is with Florida?

    One thing I think we can all agree on ..thank goodness the election didn't hinge on FL again. Why can't they get national, presidential elections right?

    Beyond that..why do they have a situation where people have to stand for hours in line to vote..in some cases until 1AM?  I mean..this is the United State of America...right? Not a third world country..or a fledgling democracy.

    One would think that given it's history with elections..FL would put procedures in place and invest in the personnell necessary for their residents to carry out their fundamental right to vote without undue barriers.

    Once again..thank goodness it doesn't hinge on the ineptness of FL election officials.

     
  2. You have chosen to ignore posts from miscricket. Show miscricket's posts

    Re: What is is with Florida?

    The Florida results are finally in..although now irrelevent. Not surprisingly..Obama won. The big loser in FL was the GOP Governor who did his best to disenfranchise voters..but he underestimated people's desire to exercise their rights.

     
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    Re: What is is with Florida?

    332 to 206 = mandate

    Has Karl Rove conceded yet?

     
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    Re: What is is with Florida?

    In response to UserName99's comment:

    332 to 206 = mandate

    Has Karl Rove conceded yet?



    What was the popular vote again?

     
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    Re: What is is with Florida?

    In response to WhichOnesPink2's comment:

    In response to UserName99's comment:

    332 to 206 = mandate

    Has Karl Rove conceded yet?



    What was the popular vote again?



    Put it to you this way, Mittens got fewer votes than McCain.

     
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    In response to DirtyWaterLover's comment:

    In response to WhichOnesPink2's comment:

    In response to UserName99's comment:

    332 to 206 = mandate

    Has Karl Rove conceded yet?



    What was the popular vote again?



    Put it to you this way, Mittens got fewer votes than McCain.

    Obama got few than in '08...what's your point???


    51% to 48%.....not exactly a mandate by the people

     
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    Re: What is is with Florida?

    Bush's win in 2004 was 50 to 48 and he immediately claimed a mandate to which the GOP agreed wholeheartedly.  So what has changed?  Clearly the spread in the vote totals were not lopsided then or now, so clearly the thinking must be that by winning reelection the incumbent must enjoy a mandate. 

     
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    In response to DamainAllen's comment:

    Bush's win in 2004 was 50 to 48 and he immediately claimed a mandate to which the GOP agreed wholeheartedly.  So what has changed?  Clearly the spread in the vote totals were not lopsided then or now, so clearly the thinking must be that by winning reelection the incumbent must enjoy a mandate. 



    I'm merely commenting that a popular vote so close is not a mandate by the people. Isn't now, wasn't in 2004, as far as I'm concerned. I can only speak for myself mind you...

     
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    Re: What is is with Florida?

    During a panel on Fox News Sunday, Kristol predicted that "Republicans will have to give in much more than they think" because of President Barack Obama's overwhelming electoral defeat of Mitt Romney.

    "Four presidents in the last century have won 50 percent of the vote twice: Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Reagan, and Obama," the conservative pundit explained. "It pains me to say that, to put him in with those other three, but it's a fact. Democrats picked up seats in the House and the Senate. The president is in good shape... I think there will be a big budget deal. It will be an Obama budget deal much more than a Paul Ryan-type budget deal. Elections have consequences."

     

    Lincoln only carried 39% of the popular vote in his first election. 

     
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    Re: What is is with Florida?

    In response to DamainAllen's comment:

    Bush's win in 2004 was 50 to 48 and he immediately claimed a mandate to which the GOP agreed wholeheartedly.  So what has changed?  Clearly the spread in the vote totals were not lopsided then or now, so clearly the thinking must be that by winning reelection the incumbent must enjoy a mandate. 



    I agree.  In modern election terms, Obama has a mandate.

     
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    Re: What is is with Florida?

    A real "mandate" is when one parties ideology wins control of the executive and the legislative branches only. Then they do not have an opposition to speak of and they can mandate.

    When power is split it is no mandate for either party.

     
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    In response to tvoter's comment:

    A real "mandate" is when one parties ideology wins control of the executive and the legislative branches only. Then they do not have an opposition to speak of and they can mandate. When power is split it is no mandate for either party.



    Then why all the wingnut griping about Obamacare?

    After all, according to your definition, it was passed by the Dems with a mandate.

     
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    Re: What is is with Florida?

    Florida is flat.  Really flat.  And wet.

    Awful place.

     

     

     
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    Re: What is is with Florida?

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    In response to miscricket's comment:

    The Florida results are finally in..although now irrelevent. Not surprisingly..Obama won. The big loser in FL was the GOP Governor who did his best to disenfranchise voters..but he underestimated people's desire to exercise their rights.



    I see that Alan West lost (confirmed by Florida) but is refusing to concede. You remember West - he's the one who said that a majority of the democrats in Congress are commies. Glad to see that his constituents voted him out of office.




    He is looking for a recount...citing irregularities in the voting process...he is also claiming that he will not give up his seat. Someone should tell him it's the people's seat.

     
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    Re: What is is with Florida?

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    Florida is flat.  Really flat.  And wet.

    Awful place.

     

     




    Really humid most of the year..and the size of the bugs is intolerable. I would never..ever..choose to live there. Of course..all those little lizards that are all over the place are pretty darn cute..and fun to catch.

     
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    Re: What is is with Florida?

    There is no national popular vote.  That because there is no national election.

     
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