What the Communist Party USA wants

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    Reubenhop-3 is the Democrat apologist on these boards. How much is Obama paying you to stand up for his insane ideology?
     
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    "So it is really about your essentially selfish need to hold onto your dough."

    It is mine and I earned it, I can be "selfish" with it if I want to.

    Let me ask you, if you pay Massachusetts income tax, do you use the 5.3% table or the alternate more "generous" 5.8% table?
     
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    [Quote]Class warfare. You really think that's a good idea?

    Declare war on the most productive? The most entreprenorial?

    A weak US. Dangerous for the whole world. You really want that?

    Everyone digs holes for a living. You really want that?[/Quote]


    In which category do Bernie Madoff and Allen Stanford belong? Most Productive or Most Entrepreneurial?

    I'll guarantee that at least 98% of the people these guys bilked want to declare class warfare on their testicles.
    And these are just two of the guys who got caught. How many more 'mini-Madoffs" are out there systematically screwing the bottom 98%?

     
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    I don't think there is any threat to your personal liberties from the new bunch (Darth Cheney and his minions were a different story). So it is really about your essentially selfish need to hold onto your dough. O.K. that is understandable. I hope you don't get sick, can't work, have no dough, have no medical insurance and lose everything. That scenario can happen to most of us and it is an unhappy thought and an unhappy iiving reality for too many.[/Quote]

    What ACTUAL personal liberties did you ACTUALLY lose? What could you not ACTUALLY do the past eight years, in regards to personal liberties, that you could do prior to the last eight years?

    "I hope you don't get sick, can't work, have no dough, have no medical insurance and lose everything. That scenario can happen to most of us and it is an unhappy thought and an unhappy iiving reality for too many"

    This isn't anything new? This could and did happen to people prior to Bush's eight years. Do you think the govt should be able to guarantee you a job for life? That you'll never lose it no matter what your work ethic? Do you expect the govt to be able to keep you from getting sick? Do you have an actual point to this statement?
     
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    Typical. Pick the worst case to make your point. That's like showing all the plane crashes and determining air travel is unsafe.
     
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    [Quote]Reubenhop-3 is the Democrat apologist on these boards. How much is Obama paying you to stand up for his insane ideology?[/Quote]

    Silly boy millions of people voted for him. And his approval rating is about two thirds of the nation. Are they all insane? Or maybe it is you....
     
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    [Quote]

    What ACTUAL personal liberties did you ACTUALLY lose? What could you not ACTUALLY do the past eight years, in regards to personal liberties, that you could do prior to the last eight years?

    "I hope you don't get sick, can't work, have no dough, have no medical insurance and lose everything. That scenario can happen to most of us and it is an unhappy thought and an unhappy iiving reality for too many"

    This isn't anything new? This could and did happen to people prior to Bush's eight years. Do you think the govt should be able to guarantee you a job for life? That you'll never lose it no matter what your work ethic? Do you expect the govt to be able to keep you from getting sick? Do you have an actual point to this statement?[/Quote]

    Personally I don't believe I lost any liberties, but it is well documented that Bush/Cheney in the War on Terror bent/broke the established rules afforded people protecting their privacy and due process rights. You can argue about it if you like, but it is foolishness to consider Obama more of a threat than the the Republican administration.

    And I do not expect to have a job from the government, but I believe that a modern society should afford health coverage to all its citizens. Every other Western country has this benefit/right and we can too. A healthy populace is a good thing for the nation. We guarantee education. We can guarantee health care. Whether it is "socialism" or not is irrelevant: it is a smart idea.
     
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    Silly boy millions of people voted for him. And his approval rating is about two thirds of the nation. Are they all insane? Or maybe it is you....[/Quote]


    Not insane, I just want a small effiecient government, controls on spending, tax breaks for all, a strong national defense and the American Worker to be able to build thier wealth without government impeding them or taking any more money out thier pocket then what is needed to run the country.

    What does your man Obama want? Big government, controls over everything, a weak national defense, spend, spend, spend, tax, tax, tax, and a redistribution of wealth to those who haven't earned that wealth.
     
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    Not insane, I just want a small effiecient government, controls on spending, tax breaks for all, a strong national defense and the American Worker to be able to build thier wealth without government impeding them or taking any more money out thier pocket then what is needed to run the country.

    What does your man Obama want? Big government, controls over everything, a weak national defense, spend, spend, spend, tax, tax, tax, and a redistribution of wealth to those who haven't earned that wealth.[/Quote]

    If that is what you want, then why aren't you a democrat?

    We had 55 months of Economic Growth under the Bush Adminstration. But Median Income growht was flat. In 2000, the median Family Income (in 2007 $) was $50,557. In 2007, it was $50,233. The Median income declined. Under a Bush Adminstration and a Senate and Congress controlled by the Republicans, the typical family was no better off in 2007 than in 2001.

    Isn't this proof that the policies of the Republican Party do not improve the lot of the typical American?

    And, I find that your goals are not necessarily compatible. Small Government does not necessarily enable the American Worker to build wealth. Wealth is not income. Wealth is stock. Your 401K is wealth. Your pension is wealth. And because of a lack of oversight, 401Ks have shrunk to less than half of what they were a couple of years ago.

    I think that just as important as allowing the American Worker to build Wealth, I think the Government should help protect the American Worker's wealth from unsafe and fraudulent practices by investment banks. the Government should impose regulations that prevents bad practices by one company from trashing the wealth of the American Worker.

    By the way, we currently have big, ineffective government. Our once strong military is a shadow of what it once was. And i don;t know about you, but the wealth in my 401K has been redistributed from my account to who knows where.
     
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    If that is what you want, then why aren't you a democrat?

    We had 55 months of Economic Growth under the Bush Adminstration. But Median Income growht was flat. In 2000, the median Family Income (in 2007 $) was $50,557. In 2007, it was $50,233. The Median income declined. Under a Bush Adminstration and a Senate and Congress controlled by the Republicans, the typical family was no better off in 2007 than in 2001.

    Isn't this proof that the policies of the Republican Party do not improve the lot of the typical American?

    And, I find that your goals are not necessarily compatible. Small Government does not necessarily enable the American Worker to build wealth. Wealth is not income. Wealth is stock. Your 401K is wealth. Your pension is wealth. And because of a lack of oversight, 401Ks have shrunk to less than half of what they were a couple of years ago.

    I think that just as important as allowing the American Worker to build Wealth, I think the Government should help protect the American Worker's wealth from unsafe and fraudulent practices by investment banks. the Government should impose regulations that prevents bad practices by one company from trashing the wealth of the American Worker.

    By the way, we currently have big, ineffective government. Our once strong military is a shadow of what it once was. And i don;t know about you, but the wealth in my 401K has been redistributed from my account to who knows where.[/Quote]


    DirtyWaterLover-2,

    Why would I want to be a Democrat? They are for big, intrusive government and not the small non-intrusive government that it should be under Republican rule. Democrats are always tax and spend while Republicans are for allowing you, the taxpayer to keep more of his/her money by keeping taxes low and controlling spending. Democrats have always been weak on defense while Republican have always been strong.

    Also, I could care less if the Median Income Growth was flat from 2001 to 2007. In my eyes, it stayed stable and stable doesn't mean things got worse. In addition, I would love to see what those numbers are going to be under Obama and his "redistribution of wealth" plan. I bet those numbers tumble like a stone rolling down a hill and are much "worse".

    Now about the American Worker, Obama and all his regulations he has imposed or will impose will impede the American Workforce when it comes to building wealth. Things like enviromental laws, higher taxes on corporations and food guidelines (restrictions) are all things that will impede our workforce. What I would like to see in America are those impediments removed for the most part and have government get out of the way of the production of the American Worker. Basically, to stop impeding thier progress and thier ability to grow wealth in this country.
    Now is that too much to ask? Yet, you want me to be a Democrat. LOL!!!!
     
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    Both parties want big government. The Democrats are different because they at least admit it.
     
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    [Quote]
    Unfortunately, the Dems version of progress (nationalization) encroaches far too much on our personal freedom and right to privacy. Grassroots organizing has taken a nasty turn, creating an uber cool class that is mesmerized by the chosen leader.

    When you see the lack of awareness and critical thinking skills in young people, who have been brainwashed toward this goal for the last 30 years, it's scary. And it's evil. At least the evil Repubs do requires conscious participation.
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    Democrats are encroaching on personal freedom and the right of privacy? That is almost completely backwards. Many Conservatives don't even accept the EXISTENCE of the right of privacy and want to dictate government regulation and prosecution of personal decisions (abortion). How about the expansion of gay rights? That is the biggest battleground on civil rights currently and it has its most support in liberal/Democrat circles. And what about due process rights: Guantanamo, torture and all that... NOT Democrat theory or practice. All I can say is wow. And you complain about the lack of education of the new generation...

     
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    [Quote]Both parties want big government. The Democrats are different because they at least admit it.[/Quote]



    Reubenhop-3,

    Both parties do not want big government. Republicans, if they got back to thier principles, would be the party of smaller, less intrusive, more effective government. Unfortunately for them, they haven't done that since before WW2 and it has hurt them overall in the public's eye because the public doesn't see the difference between the two parties. Maybe after Obama is "one and done" in 3 years, the Republican who will be president will use this ideology and bring government under control and will save the America public from the intrusiveness of large democratic government. It is a nice thought. Therefore, before you and petrole start posting more lies maybe you should actually think before you post.
     
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    Gabboo, you're wrong and suffering from an idolization of a romantic memory of the GOP. The republicans will never go back to being isolationists. The liberals won, neo-conservatism is permanently etched in the core of not just both parties, but American culture. There is a reason the isolationists failed and became rare. They were wrong. Slavery is never coming back, and neither is the republican party you remember.[/Quote]


    Petrole or shall I address you as comrade,

    I am not suffering from an idolization of a romantic memory of the GOP. I think there is a real transformation happening within the GOP with them getting back to thier fundamentals of the party. Smaller Government, controling spending, tax cuts for everyone and so on are strongly being discussed within the party and many in the party want to get back to the fundamentals of the party. Plus, after 4 years of the Obamanation that is in office now and the constant expansion of government under his reign, I feel that the nation will be wanting a reduction at all levels of government. They will be sick of paying for everything that the Liberals deem spendable on and they will be sick and tired of paying for things like frisbee parks and flowers around a federal buildings. In the end, the Republican party will be more than happy to take on that role and show the nation that smaller government, tax breaks for all, a strong national defense and less government intrusiveness in our lives is a good thing.
     
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    Slavery is never coming back, and neither is the republican party you remember.[/Quote]



    Petrole (comrade),

    How did slavery get into this conversation? I'm not bringing it up because it has nothing to do with what we are talking about. However, it is disturbing to me that slavery is brought into the conversation "out of the blue" by a liberal. Then again, you cannot be surprised by what liberals bring up nowadays.
     
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    How about the expansion of gay rights? That is the biggest battleground on civil rights currently and it has its most support in liberal/Democrat circles.
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    Except among Massachusetts democrats, the state of California and Bill Clinton. Other than that, thats a pretty strong point.

    Oh, and parade organizers in Southie. But other than that . . .
     
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    [Quote]You always answer your own questions? I just said, it is never coming back. Another thing that is never coming back is isolationism, the unifying force of the republican party you remember. Oh sure, the xenophobic nationalism will always remain a bit, but no republican politician will ever again promote isolationism again. That boat set sail with d'etante and was sunk with 9/11.[/Quote]



    Comrade Petrole,

    As I remember, after 9-11 the United States went to the world and asked for help from other nations before we took on the "war on terror". Therefore, being isolationists wasn't what we were attempting to be and we never PROMOTED IT once we were basically fighting the war(s) by ourselves. Isolationism has never been part of the Republican party. Unfortuanately for the United States, when it came time for nations to decide whether to help fight the war on terror the world never stepped up. Many countries only agreed to only send token forces to help us leaving the United States, as always, to bear almost all the responsibility and troops for the war(s). Therefore, if you want to cast blame for the isolationism that has occured fighting these wars, then blame the rest of the world. They never stepped up and gave the United States the support they needed to fight these wars.
     
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    Interesting. A number of the right-wingers take great offense when conservatives are referred to as Nazis.
     
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    [Quote]Interesting. A number of the right-wingers take great offense when conservatives are referred to as Nazis.[/Quote]

    Whereas left-wingers enjoy it so.

    woof!
     
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    So both this topic and referring to conservatives as Nazis is OK.
     
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    [Quote]How about the expansion of gay rights? That is the biggest battleground on civil rights currently and it has its most support in liberal/Democrat circles.
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    Except among Massachusetts democrats, the state of California and Bill Clinton. Other than that, thats a pretty strong point.

    Oh, and parade organizers in Southie. But other than that . . .[/Quote]

    I know you relish the fact that Clinton supported DOMA, but it is plain wrong to think that most Democrats oppose the expansion of gay rights in Massachusetts and California. Do you really think it is the G.O.P. (or the C.P.U.S.A.) that is spearheading this political movement? Not all Democrats support gay marriage rights, but there is certainly more support for it with that group than with others.
     
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    you can always count on certain unwanted fringe groups of people to stick their 2 cents worth into any rational conversation.


    If God and nature intended these people to reproduce, we'd all be hermaphrodites, like earthworms, the closest know life form to a Rat homosexual.
     
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    Part of the reason I reply to the reactionaries here is to show that they know almost nothing about the people and party they ally themselves with. The republican party has always been driven by isolationism. That only changed in our lifetimes with the rising power of the evangelical movement within the party. Remove the evangelicals and there is no neo-conservatism left in the party.[/Quote]


    Comrade Petrole,

    Prove it!!!! The Republican party nor any other party turned the U.S. into a country like China. Therefore, your facts are wrong, like always, again.
     
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    I know you relish the fact that Clinton supported DOMA, but it is plain wrong to think that most Democrats oppose the expansion of gay rights in Massachusetts and California. Do you really think it is the G.O.P. (or the C.P.U.S.A.) that is spearheading this political movement? Not all Democrats support gay marriage rights, but there is certainly more support for it with that group than with others.[/Quote]

    Certainly. Except for the examples I cited of course. I suppose its possible that 53% of Califonians suddenly turned into republican Mormons.
     
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    Once Greg latches on to an interesting fact it dominates his posting. He likes to believe that the apparently contradictory is a blanket rule. His fatal flaw.[/Quote]

    THREE, no, FOUR interesting facts (I'll leave out a unanimous SCOTUS).

    Now please get your nose out my a55
     
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